mjzee Posted August 14, 2014 Report Posted August 14, 2014 Manfred Mann OAS - $14.33 + $3.99 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KM478P4/ref=pe_385040_30332190_TE_3p_dp_1 Perhaps I've mentioned this before. This is EMI material. So why does Warner have it? This is Parlophone material. All Parlophone recordings, except for The Beatles, went to Warner as part of the sale of EMI to Universal. Other labels that went to Warner include Colpix and Roulette. MJZ, I don't think that these were Parlophone. I think they were on His Master's Voice. Maybe Warner got all of the HMV recordings as well. Discogs says His Master's Voice as well: http://www.discogs.com/artist/180634-Manfred-Mann The Parlophone logo is on the back of the package: Quote
mjzee Posted August 14, 2014 Report Posted August 14, 2014 Manfred Mann OAS - $14.33 + $3.99 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KM478P4/ref=pe_385040_30332190_TE_3p_dp_1 Perhaps I've mentioned this before. This is EMI material. So why does Warner have it? This is Parlophone material. All Parlophone recordings, except for The Beatles, went to Warner as part of the sale of EMI to Universal. Other labels that went to Warner include Colpix and Roulette. So who got the Beatles recordings? (I tried to google this but never got an answer.) Beatles went to Universal. See the back of the recent BBC package: Looks like Universal really wanted The Beatles and Blue Note! Quote
gmonahan Posted August 14, 2014 Report Posted August 14, 2014 Greg, here are 15 Capitol albums for 15.21 GBP. http://www.amazon.co.uk/1954-1961-Albums-15-complete-albums/dp/B00J0YABJ2/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1407515847&sr=1-1&keywords=frank+sinatra+box+set GA, thanks for posting this. It appears to be a copy of the Concepts set issued by Capitol in the US. Of course, without a complete track list, I can't tell if all the alternates were issued on the US set, but the three I can see in the amazon.uk blurb photo were. If anyone has specific info on the alternate tracks issue, I'd love to read it. Thanks again! gregmo Quote
GA Russell Posted August 14, 2014 Author Report Posted August 14, 2014 mjzee, that's interesting about the Parlophone logo! Quote
mjzee Posted August 14, 2014 Report Posted August 14, 2014 And look to the left of the logo: "This collection P & C 2014 Parlophone Records Ltd., a Warner Music Group company." I think the divestment of labels like this was mandated by the EU as a condition for the approval of the sale of EMI to Universal. Quote
Fer Urbina Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 The latest Jacques Brel intégrale, Suivre l'étoile, 21 CDs, for €50 at Amazon France. F Quote
felser Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 Per the Manfred Mann, it's frustrating. The EMI stuff has been available in many configurations throughout the CD era (I own the 4CD "Down The Road A Piece" set, which is as perfect as these things get from what I can tell), yet as far as I know, the Fontana stuff that followed is very difficut to find. I have a spotty 20 track "Best of" from that era, but nothing more comprehensive is available that I know of. Am I missing anything? Quote
king ubu Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 The latest Jacques Brel intégrale, Suivre l'étoile, 21 CDs, for €50 at Amazon France. F extremely tempting ... but then I have the small "Intégrale des album originaux" .. hm ... two I just got - Paul Simon - Complete Albums Collection for €37: http://www.amazon.fr/Complete-Albums-Collection-Paul-Simon/dp/B007EG9CPM/ Earth Wind & Fire - Columbia Masters for €22: http://www.amazon.fr/Columbia-Masters-Earth-Wind-Fire/dp/B005L12SH6/ Quote
Fer Urbina Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 The latest Jacques Brel intégrale, Suivre l'étoile, 21 CDs, for €50 at Amazon France. F extremely tempting ... but then I have the small "Intégrale des album originaux" .. hm ... Same here. However, I've had the box in my hands and it looks terrific (10-inch square, IIRC). And although it's probably not the best way to judge this, I've listened to some mp3 and the sound is better to my ears. Of course there are complaints about this not being really complete and all that, but still... F Quote
king ubu Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 The latest Jacques Brel intégrale, Suivre l'étoile, 21 CDs, for €50 at Amazon France. F extremely tempting ... but then I have the small "Intégrale des album originaux" .. hm ... Same here. However, I've had the box in my hands and it looks terrific (10-inch square, IIRC). And although it's probably not the best way to judge this, I've listened to some mp3 and the sound is better to my ears. Of course there are complaints about this not being really complete and all that, but still... F definitely looks like a wonderful box ... actually I've noticed it (at full price) some days ago and was tempted, so this is a no-brainer, really (and I guess I know a friend who'd be very happy to get the other one)thanks for the alert! Quote
Fer Urbina Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 ... (and I guess I know a friend who'd be very happy to get the other one) thanks for the alert! I've also got a friend who'll be grateful F Quote
bogdan101 Posted August 16, 2014 Report Posted August 16, 2014 I was tempted as well by the new Brel box, even if I have an "Integrale" from the late 90's. Luckily this new box is on Spotify so I could compare the sound with the old one I have; the new one sounds worse than the old one, most importantly on Brel's voice, which sounds colder and thinner. Other things are different as well, there is less reverb now and a leaner overall sound. Of course there is additional material on the new box, which may alone be worth 50 euro, but in the end I'm happy with my older set. Quote
GA Russell Posted August 16, 2014 Author Report Posted August 16, 2014 Per the Manfred Mann, it's frustrating. The EMI stuff has been available in many configurations throughout the CD era (I own the 4CD "Down The Road A Piece" set, which is as perfect as these things get from what I can tell), yet as far as I know, the Fontana stuff that followed is very difficut to find. I have a spotty 20 track "Best of" from that era, but nothing more comprehensive is available that I know of. Am I missing anything? felser, to my knowledge, there has never been a box set of Manfred Mann Chapter Two's complete Fontana recordings, but I believe that every song has been issued on CD. As Is http://www.amazon.com/As-Manfred-Mann/dp/B0006FGH74/ref=sr_1_21?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1408166557&sr=1-21&keywords=manfred+mann What a Mann http://www.amazon.com/What-Man-Manfred-Mann/dp/B00007KKXF/ref=pd_sim_m_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=05EJVSFY1ZNN744QJ5D4 Up the Junction http://www.amazon.com/Up-Junction-Manfred-Mann/dp/B0006FGHF6/ref=pd_sim_m_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=05EJVSFY1ZNN744QJ5D4 Might Garvey http://www.amazon.com/Mighty-Garvey-Manfred-Mann/dp/B0006FGHEM/ref=pd_sim_m_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=05EJVSFY1ZNN744QJ5D4 These are their four Fontana albums. You will note that this CD of What a Mann includes songs which did not make their LP's, including I Wanna Be Rich, Let It Be Me, Miss JD, All I Wanna Do, Last Train to Clarksville, Sunshine Superman and My Name is Jack. Here is another collection. Mannerisms http://www.amazon.com/Mannerisms-Manfred-Mann/dp/B0006FGHEW/ref=pd_rhf_dp_s_cp_3_WAVC?ie=UTF8&refRID=1M0GH4FCPZXGX1EPVP82 Mannerisms has other songs which did not make their LP's: Sleepy Hollow, There is a Man, Fox on the Run, Too Many People, Ragamuffin Man and A "B" Side. In early 1969, Fox on the Run was the #1 song in Washington, DC, and to my knowledge not played on the radio anywhere else in America! As you probably know, it was later a country hit. (It may interest you to learn that A "B" Side was recorded with lyrics on Manfred's next album, Chapter Three, with the title Travelling Lady.) I am not aware of any other tracks they recorded for Fontana. Hope this helps! Quote
sidewinder Posted August 16, 2014 Report Posted August 16, 2014 Manfred Mann Chapter 3 would make a very nice double CD ! Quote
romualdo Posted August 16, 2014 Report Posted August 16, 2014 The latest Jacques Brel intégrale, Suivre l'étoile, 21 CDs, for €50 at Amazon France. F Cheers great buy Quote
Fer Urbina Posted August 16, 2014 Report Posted August 16, 2014 (edited) I was tempted as well by the new Brel box, even if I have an "Integrale" from the late 90's. Luckily this new box is on Spotify so I could compare the sound with the old one I have; the new one sounds worse than the old one, most importantly on Brel's voice, which sounds colder and thinner. Other things are different as well, there is less reverb now and a leaner overall sound. Of course there is additional material on the new box, which may alone be worth 50 euro, but in the end I'm happy with my older set. Interesting. I only have L'Intégrale des Albums Originaux (2010) and won't be able to compare CD-to-CD till September. I don't know the second Intégrale (2003), the one I guess you have. I know the first one, a 10-CD set from 1988, and the latest one should sound better (and has more music). I'm no audiophile, and especially with Brel I admit I don't pay too much attention to the sound. I hope no one is too disappointed with this, or that any problems maybe overcome with a bit of EQ-ing. F Edited August 16, 2014 by Fer Urbina Quote
felser Posted August 16, 2014 Report Posted August 16, 2014 Per the Manfred Mann, it's frustrating. The EMI stuff has been available in many configurations throughout the CD era (I own the 4CD "Down The Road A Piece" set, which is as perfect as these things get from what I can tell), yet as far as I know, the Fontana stuff that followed is very difficut to find. I have a spotty 20 track "Best of" from that era, but nothing more comprehensive is available that I know of. Am I missing anything? felser, to my knowledge, there has never been a box set of Manfred Mann Chapter Two's complete Fontana recordings, but I believe that every song has been issued on CD. As Is http://www.amazon.com/As-Manfred-Mann/dp/B0006FGH74/ref=sr_1_21?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1408166557&sr=1-21&keywords=manfred+mann What a Mann http://www.amazon.com/What-Man-Manfred-Mann/dp/B00007KKXF/ref=pd_sim_m_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=05EJVSFY1ZNN744QJ5D4 Up the Junction http://www.amazon.com/Up-Junction-Manfred-Mann/dp/B0006FGHF6/ref=pd_sim_m_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=05EJVSFY1ZNN744QJ5D4 Might Garvey http://www.amazon.com/Mighty-Garvey-Manfred-Mann/dp/B0006FGHEM/ref=pd_sim_m_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=05EJVSFY1ZNN744QJ5D4 These are their four Fontana albums. You will note that this CD of What a Mann includes songs which did not make their LP's, including I Wanna Be Rich, Let It Be Me, Miss JD, All I Wanna Do, Last Train to Clarksville, Sunshine Superman and My Name is Jack. Here is another collection. Mannerisms http://www.amazon.com/Mannerisms-Manfred-Mann/dp/B0006FGHEW/ref=pd_rhf_dp_s_cp_3_WAVC?ie=UTF8&refRID=1M0GH4FCPZXGX1EPVP82 Mannerisms has other songs which did not make their LP's: Sleepy Hollow, There is a Man, Fox on the Run, Too Many People, Ragamuffin Man and A "B" Side. In early 1969, Fox on the Run was the #1 song in Washington, DC, and to my knowledge not played on the radio anywhere else in America! As you probably know, it was later a country hit. (It may interest you to learn that A "B" Side was recorded with lyrics on Manfred's next album, Chapter Three, with the title Travelling Lady.) I am not aware of any other tracks they recorded for Fontana. Hope this helps! Thanks, this is great info! But the idea of spending $65 for these, to add maybe 30 cuts to what I have, doesn't seem like a good idea given economic realities. But I will track the albums on the usual sites, thanks again! Quote
king ubu Posted August 16, 2014 Report Posted August 16, 2014 Who's this Mann anyway? Any relation to Herbie? Quote
mjzee Posted August 16, 2014 Report Posted August 16, 2014 Who's this Mann anyway? Any relation to Herbie? Do Wah Ditty Ditty Dum Ditty Do! Quote
Van Basten II Posted August 16, 2014 Report Posted August 16, 2014 Although the title complete is so ridiculous it's laughable, it remains a good deal to get a comprehensive set of music from Morricone, on the negative side little added value besides the mucic but 60 $ for 15 CDS ain't bad. http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Edition-Ennio-Morricone/dp/B001KXHSCO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1408217449&sr=8-1&keywords=morricone+complete Quote
bogdan101 Posted August 16, 2014 Report Posted August 16, 2014 (edited) I was tempted as well by the new Brel box, even if I have an "Integrale" from the late 90's. Luckily this new box is on Spotify so I could compare the sound with the old one I have; the new one sounds worse than the old one, most importantly on Brel's voice, which sounds colder and thinner. Other things are different as well, there is less reverb now and a leaner overall sound. Of course there is additional material on the new box, which may alone be worth 50 euro, but in the end I'm happy with my older set. Interesting. I only have L'Intégrale des Albums Originaux (2010) and won't be able to compare CD-to-CD till September. I don't know the second Intégrale (2003), the one I guess you have. I know the first one, a 10-CD set from 1988, and the latest one should sound better (and has more music). I'm no audiophile, and especially with Brel I admit I don't pay too much attention to the sound. I hope no one is too disappointed with this, or that any problems maybe overcome with a bit of EQ-ing. F I have the older 10-cd set in a repackaging from the 90's, and for me that sounds better than the latest box, which almost sounds like a remix, with vocals pushed back and instruments brought forward and everything brightened up. Btw, this is all apparent listening though cheap computer speakers. Edited August 16, 2014 by bogdan101 Quote
GA Russell Posted August 17, 2014 Author Report Posted August 17, 2014 Manfred Mann Chapter 3 would make a very nice double CD ! +1,000! Bob, many years ago (probably 1995) I read the book Mannerisms: the Five Phases of Manfred Mann by Greg Russo. http://www.amazon.com/Mannerisms-Five-Phases-Manfred-Mann/dp/0964815710/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1408249078&sr=1-2&keywords=the+five+faces+of+manfred+mann In it, the author says that Chapter III recorded about half enough for a third album, which he had heard. I would love for Universal to release a box set of the two released albums, this half-an-album, and alternate takes, a few of which have been released as bonus tracks on later CD releases of the two issued albums. Quote
sidewinder Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 Get's my vote ! Thanks for the information on that. Quote
GA Russell Posted August 17, 2014 Author Report Posted August 17, 2014 I saw Manfred Mann Chapter III in Washington in May, 1970. They were fantastic! Quote
felser Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 I have the Chapter III stuff, really like it a lot despite the weak vocals. Quote
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