B. Goren. Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 In memory of John Lennon: Working Class Hero is one of the best protest songs ever written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeith Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Nice to recognize him B. It's an awful anniversary. Very much missed by me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 can't say I even noticed he was gone. did any jazz musicians die on this date? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETman Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 can't say I even noticed he was gone. did any jazz musicians die on this date? Nice! My first musical hero. I still remember my shock when Cosell announced his death during Monday Night Football. I stood in front of the Dakota that Friday evening. Very sad day for me. I named my daughter "Julia" in his honor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Twizzle Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 can't say I even noticed he was gone. did any jazz musicians die on this date? Nice! My first musical hero. I still remember my shock when Cosell announced his death during Monday Night Football. I stood in front of the Dakota that Friday evening. Very sad day for me. I named my daughter "Julia" in his honor. Cosell announcing Lennon's death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rostasi Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 did any jazz musicians die on this date? Buck Clayton other notables: Jobim, Rubén González, Martha Tilton, Marty Robbins, and... Bozo the Clown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 I learned of it the following morning. My radio alarm clock was set for radio only, and it woke me up with the CBS News. I believe that it was Morton Dean announcing, and he led off with the news that John Lennon had been shot and killed. In my semi-consciousness, my first thought was...That person has the same name as the Beatle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 I was in LA and was watching the late night news. I kept thinking "I heard the news today...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 I was nine, turning ten in a few weeks. I've been a Beatles fan since babyhood, so I was well aware of John Lennon by 1980. I woke up the next morning and heard the news on my clock-radio. My first thought was, "I must still be asleep. I'm dreaming." I got up, went into the kitchen (still unsure if I had really heard what I thought I heard) and found my mother crying in the kitchen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 can't say I even noticed he was gone. You don't have to like him, or even respect him. I'd be quite the hypocrite to piss all over Leslie Nielsen's memory and then bitch because somebody said something mean about John Lennon. However, I find your comment disingenuous. I can't believe that you didn't "notice" when he died (I assume that's what you mean. Not that you weren't aware that he'd been dead for the past thirty years). Even as a child, albeit the child of Beatles fans, I could see that the story was all over the news at the time. This was not treated by the media like the passing of some also-ran pop musician. This was more akin to the death of a Head of State. The death of John Lennon was treated, by the media and populace alike, as equal to the death of JFK or Martin Luther King, Jr. Because the story here was not merely death, or even untimely death (Kurt Cobain, Jimi Hendrix, Keith Moon), but VIOLENT, untimely death. Whatever you thought of the Beatles, John Lennon's death was BIG, BIG NEWS. You noticed. Or did you also not happen to notice 9/11? "Hey, didn't there used to be a couple of towers over there? What do mean, 'where have I been'?" I can see missing George Harrison's passing. It wasn't quite the same level of news story. But missing John Lennon's death? Do you have ANY memory at all of 1980? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 can't say I even noticed he was gone. You don't have to like him, or even respect him. I'd be quite the hypocrite to piss all over Leslie Nielsen's memory and then bitch because somebody said something mean about John Lennon. However, I find your comment disingenuous. I can't believe that you didn't "notice" when he died (I assume that's what you mean. Not that you weren't aware that he'd been dead for the past thirty years). Even as a child, albeit the child of Beatles fans, I could see that the story was all over the news at the time. This was not treated by the media like the passing of some also-ran pop musician. This was more akin to the death of a Head of State. The death of John Lennon was treated, by the media and populace alike, as equal to the death of JFK or Martin Luther King, Jr. Because the story here was not merely death, or even untimely death (Kurt Cobain, Jimi Hendrix, Keith Moon), but VIOLENT, untimely death. Whatever you thought of the Beatles, John Lennon's death was BIG, BIG NEWS. You noticed. Or did you also not happen to notice 9/11? "Hey, didn't there used to be a couple of towers over there? What do mean, 'where have I been'?" I can see missing George Harrison's passing. It wasn't quite the same level of news story. But missing John Lennon's death? Do you have ANY memory at all of 1980? Maybe that comment was a bit too flip, let's just say Lennon's untimely passing still isn't that significant to me. I heard about it on the radio the next morning while I was buying my Dad his birthday present. Now Harrison's death...that was real sad. Comparing it to 9/11 plain fucking silly. The Beatles are pretty trivial in the big picture. I could see the twin towers from my building and was on my was to town on that morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Lennon & McCartney - the REAL Twin Towers! Or am I thinking of Sampson & Olajuwon? I always get those two, ok...four...DUH...confused? Either way...BUM-MER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Lennon & McCartney - the REAL Twin Towers! Or am I thinking of Sampson & Olajuwon? I always get those two, ok...four...DUH...confused? Either way...BUM-MER! How could you miss Ren and Stimpy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Lennon & McCartney - the REAL Twin Towers! Or am I thinking of Sampson & Olajuwon? I always get those two, ok...four...DUH...confused? Either way...BUM-MER! How could you miss Ren and Stimpy. I really miss Ren and Stimpy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 No doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Only the original Kricfalusi episodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardbopjazz Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Lennon & McCartney - the REAL Twin Towers! Or am I thinking of Sampson & Olajuwon? I always get those two, ok...four...DUH...confused? Either way...BUM-MER! How could you miss Ren and Stimpy. I really miss Ren and Stimpy. Ren was the dog and Stimpy the cat, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Only the original Kricfalusi episodes. How could you miss Ren and Stimpy. I really miss Ren and Stimpy. Ren was the dog and Stimpy the cat, right? yez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeith Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 I am a bit surprised (and saddened) so many people are pissing on this thread. I bet B. Goren's sorry he started it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Hey, I was broke up over it for quite a while when it happened, and still can get plenty bummed about thinking "what if...". But life goes on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 I was a never huge Lennon fan as a solo artist but feel the same way about McCartney. Harrison is a different story. They were all greater as the Beatles than the sum of their parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Basten II Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 (edited) My displeasure with him has little to do with him but mostly how he was showcased to us, he was a fine musician who did some great stuff but I never bought into Lennon being a great peace figure, to me he was the dude who was pissed off against his former bandmates. Then again am too young to have known the Beatles and the early seventies, so maybe I have a more cynical view of him than those who were old enough in the 60s and early 70s. Edited December 10, 2010 by Van Basten II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkboughtlunch Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 (edited) Lennon was a brilliant, complex artist. His final Lp sessions found him setting aside politics and reflecting on family and relationship renewal. Hard to say with any certainty what he would have done had he lived, but given his history of outspokenness, it's reasonable to conclude he may have spoken out against salient issues such as the Iraq War. His outspokenness on the Vietnam war showed he wasn't afraid to push back against the system and use his fame to stand up for the underdog. His solo career had some fantastic peaks (Plastic Ono Band, Imagine) and some inconsistent lesserlight material (Some Time in New York City, Walls & Bridges), but it's also reasonable to conclude he would have continued writing music and put out some strong material from time to time. Regardless of if you dug Lennon's music or not, the viciousness of some born-again piece of shit asshole shooting a man in the back who had a wife and two sons is a stomach turning tragedy. In a recently released interview with Lennon conducted a few days before his death Lennons states: "“I’m not claiming divinity. I have never claimed purity of soul. I’ve never claimed to have the answers to life. I only put out songs and answer questions as honestly as I can. But I still believe in peace, love and understanding. These critics with the illusions they’ve created about artists it’s like idol worship. They only like people when they are on their way up ... I cannot be on the way up again. What they want is dead heroes, like Sid Vicious and James Dean. I’m not interesting in being a dead (expletive) hero... So forget ‘em, forget ‘em.” http://new.ca.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/335127/rolling-stone-to-release-john-lennons-final-print-interview-30-years-later/ Edited December 13, 2010 by monkboughtlunch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 Regardless of if you dug Lennon's music or not, the viciousness of some born-again piece of shit asshole shooting a man in the back who had a wife and two sons is a stomach turning tragedy. I gotta admit, that part sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkboughtlunch Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) Check out this video called "I Met The Walrus" "In 1969, a 14-year-old Beatle fanatic named Jerry Levitan snuck into John Lennon's hotel room in Toronto and convinced him to do an interview. 38 years later, Levitan, director Josh Raskin and illustrators James Braithwaite and Alex Kurina have collaborated to create an animated short film using the original interview recording as the soundtrack. A spellbinding vessel for Lennon's boundless wit and timeless message, I Met the Walrus was nominated for the 2008 Academy Award for Animated Short and won the 2009 Emmy for 'New Approaches' (making it the first film to win an Emmy on behalf of the internet)." Edited December 15, 2010 by monkboughtlunch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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