J.A.W. Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 According to the Jazz West Coast board, Jutta Hipp died on Monday, April 7, 2003. She seems to have had insufficient funds for a burial or a funeral, and she willed her body to Columbia University. Quote
Dan Gould Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 Very sad news. I guess that the royalty check Tom hand delivered didn't stretch that far. RIP. Quote
Soul Stream Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 another sad end. seems rare to hear of a happy ending to a jazz players life (and lest we forget these are the "name" players!). well, i guess the fact that her music will live on is some consolation. too bad. Quote
Ed S Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 Very sad news indeed. I agree that a Mosaic Select of her work would be a fitting tribute. Quote
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 That's a shame. Has anyone ever ever raised the issue in conversation with someone other than Tom E. ? He wasn't too upbeat about it....but then again, he also said that the mini-lp format was pretty much a loser. He obviously hasn't tried to find jrvg copies of the 'Hipp & Zoot' or 'Hipp Quintet' lately. Quote
Parkertown Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 That's really sad... P.S. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Damn, I hate Wingy! (see this thread at AAJ) Quote
Christiern Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 That's really sad... P.S. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Damn, I hate Wingy! (see this thread at AAJ) Scott, I consider Dannny D to be a friend, but I agree that his remark re Jutta Hipp on AAJ is uncallled-for. I was never a fan of Ms. Hipp, whom I heard at the Hickory House when I first came to New York, but it is terribly sad that she passed away and that none of us knew that she needed financial help. At least it came as news to me. Quote
Parkertown Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 Weizen: I just found a Toshiba EMI TOJJ-5056(1999-2001)10" LP reissue of Jutta Hipp New Faces-New Sounds From Germany Blue Note BLP-5056(1955) on eBay. Jutta Hipp eBay auction You do vinyl, right? Chrisiern: Uncalled for? That's all he makes is uncalled for remarks. Is he a "formerly" nice person, who is now going on a downward spiral? Because he is probably alienating everyone in his life. Any knowledge or skillful musicianship he possesses is being quickly dissipated by his ongoing behavior and attitudes...and consumption... IMHO... Quote
Jim Dye Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 First, let me say I was sorry to hear about the demise of Jutta Hipp. Second, I don't know why everyone lets themselves get so worked up over Deep. If you don't like what he has to say, use the ignore function. Personally, I find him entertaining. If you can get by the bold and crude statements, there is a lot of knowledge to be mined from his posts. Was his post about Ms. Hipp in poor taste? Absolutely, but it cracked me up. But I have been known to have a 'sick' sense of humor. If you don't like it, again, just use the ignore function... Does everything connected with Blue Note have to be sacred? Quote
Soul Stream Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 let me start by saying i've only ventured to the aaj site a few times in the last month or so... saw the jutta hipp death notice here and decided to go to aaj to see if there was anything else on the topic. i saw deep's remarks and gave him a little dig back in good fun. he flung a pretty funny zinger back and i forgot about it and went about my way. when i logged backed to aaj just now, i noticed the whole thing had been deleted! what a load of censorship over there. now i know why i don't head that way more often. i didn't think deep's comments were very sensitive, but who cares! that's what freedom's all about. the idea of not being able to say something bad about a jazz personality living or not....that's the whole point of these boards imho. well, all i have to say is long live organissimo.... Quote
Noj Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 I wasn't DEEPly offended, but Jutta's body is barely cold. I don't think they should have censored it, but I know why they did. Quote
J.A.W. Posted April 8, 2003 Author Report Posted April 8, 2003 (edited) Well, I think it was a disgusting and utterly tasteless remark, like so many he made over the last few months. What a pity he doesn't stick to his jazz expertise. Edited April 8, 2003 by J.A.W. Quote
Daniel A Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 Well, I missed the whole thing. I understand if nobody wants to quote Wingy verbatim, but what was the spirit (which I can more or less imagine anyway) of his remark on Jutta? Quote
Big Wheel Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 Well, I missed the whole thing. I understand if nobody wants to quote Wingy verbatim, but what was the spirit (which I can more or less imagine anyway) of his remark on Jutta? It was something like "good thing she willed her body to Columbia University...now the scientists can find out how one person was so unswinging." Noj has it right. Whatever you think of the lady's playing (I think she swung well enough, though she was no Wynton Kelly), there's no need to spit on people's graves right after they pass. Quote
pryan Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 Daniel - Basically he made a joke (albeit a sick one) that, because Jutta was donating her body to be used for research purposes (I think), the scientists could look into how a body such as hers was so unable to swing. Please, anybody correct me if I'm wrong. BTW, on the subject of DEEP, I agree with the poster who said there is some profound thoughts/ideas in his comments once you get beyond the initial shock of his bluntness. Still, I find myself checking in here more often. Quote
RDK Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 Well the Jutta thread is back at AAJ, though it looks to have been edited a bit. Oddly, DEEP has completely changed his mind about Ms. Hipp's talents. Seriously, though, obscure or well-known, Blue Note artist or otherwise, it's always sad to hear about a jazz musician's passing... I think i'll spin the Hickory House discs tonight... Ray Quote
Out2Lunch Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 Think I'll spin some Jutta tonight as well. I have some of her work captured on a German Jazz festival set from the 50's which was released by Bear Family, pretty nice stuff. Like any good artist, her work lives on. Quote
ghost of miles Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 I just played the Connoisseur on the radio last week... Damn. Wish she'd lived long enough to see some more of her music come out again. Didn't she leave it behind for painting? Quote
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted April 9, 2003 Report Posted April 9, 2003 Weizen: I just found a Toshiba EMI TOJJ-5056(1999-2001)10" LP reissue of Jutta Hipp New Faces-New Sounds From Germany Blue Note BLP-5056(1955) on eBay. Jutta Hipp eBay auction You do vinyl, right? Thanks for the heads up on that Scott. I was fortunate to have found a 10" copy awhile back but hopefully someone else will see your post and move on this one. It doesn't come around all that often and it's a wonderful piece-o-vinyl ! Cheers. Quote
JohnS Posted April 9, 2003 Report Posted April 9, 2003 (edited) Prompted as much by DEEP's remarks as Jutta's death I thought I'd give her a spin. There's not too much to complain about her playing on the "With Zoot Sims" album, it is not particularly original but pleasant and workmanlike imo. I also tried a German recording from '54. Her playing here is rythmically rather stiff, something akin to Dave Brubeck of the period. I'll have to try to find the time to play the "Hickory House" records again. Edited April 9, 2003 by JohnS Quote
Parkertown Posted April 9, 2003 Report Posted April 9, 2003 Weizen: You're welcome. Glad you finally got a copy. Enjoy! Quote
jlhoots Posted April 10, 2003 Report Posted April 10, 2003 I agree with JAW. What Deep (whatever that means) said was despicable. His Peruvian Marching Powder ( his terminology, not mine ) use obviously renders him senseless. Aric Effron was "funnier" at the old BNBB. Quote
Out2Lunch Posted April 10, 2003 Report Posted April 10, 2003 (edited) Maybe he's the same guy with an expanded vocabulary! Edited April 10, 2003 by Out2Lunch Quote
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