chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted May 19, 2011 Report Posted May 19, 2011 http://cgi.ebay.com/Don-Wilkerson-Low-Down-Dirty-Shame-45-/190524799797?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2c5c29bb35 Quote
Hardbopjazz Posted May 19, 2011 Report Posted May 19, 2011 Regardless if it is Wilkerson from Blue Note in the 1960s, it goes to show how much music is not documented. I looked to see if Don Wilkerson(Blue Note) ever recorded this tune and could not find anything. Quote
jazztrain Posted May 19, 2011 Report Posted May 19, 2011 (edited) Apparently. See here: Don Wilkerson Discography Edited May 19, 2011 by jazztrain Quote
Stereojack Posted May 19, 2011 Report Posted May 19, 2011 http://cgi.ebay.com/Don-Wilkerson-Low-Down-Dirty-Shame-45-/190524799797?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2c5c29bb35 I would guess that it is not. The label states that this is from the LP "In the Shadow of the Blues" - has anyone here ever heard of this LP? Furthermore, the label gives a California address, and Wilkerson is known to have spent the last 20+ years of his life (he died in 1986) in Houston, Texas. My guess is that this record was issued in the 1970's or later. Quote
jazztrain Posted May 19, 2011 Report Posted May 19, 2011 Points well taken. I assumed that since Michael Fitzgerald included it in his discography, that he had some reason for assuming it was the same artist. Note, however, that he's listed on alto saxophone, while his "known" recordings show him on tenor. Someone needs to win the record and find out! http://cgi.ebay.com/Don-Wilkerson-Low-Down-Dirty-Shame-45-/190524799797?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2c5c29bb35 I would guess that it is not. The label states that this is from the LP "In the Shadow of the Blues" - has anyone here ever heard of this LP? Furthermore, the label gives a California address, and Wilkerson is known to have spent the last 20+ years of his life (he died in 1986) in Houston, Texas. My guess is that this record was issued in the 1970's or later. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted May 19, 2011 Report Posted May 19, 2011 No new info, but stumbled on a good photo of the single... Quote
JSngry Posted May 19, 2011 Report Posted May 19, 2011 I've heard it, and it is THE Don Wilkerson. Don't think that album was ever released, though. But the 45 is definitely Don. Quote
jazztrain Posted May 19, 2011 Report Posted May 19, 2011 I'm more inclined to agree with you that it may be another Don Wilkerson. Here's some more information: The record credits Brother Brown Publishing as the publisher. BMI lists the following information for Buster Brown Publishing: JERRY DON WHITE DBA BROTHER BROWN PUBLISHING 7406 LASALLE LOS ANGELES, CA 90047-2419 (213) 753-0861 Different address on LaSalle Avenue in LA but clearly a connection. Someone could presumably try to call Jerry Don White for more information. BMI lists several tunes under the "Low Down Dirty Shame" title, one of which is the one we're looking for: >>> LOW DOWN DIRTY SHAME (Legal Title) BMI Work #933881 Songwriter/Composer Current Affiliation CAE/IPI # WILKERSON DON NA 0 Publishers BROTHER BROWN PUBLISHING BMI 50834691 >>> I can't find any reference to Tomel records (if you re-order the letters, you get the beginning of Mel Torme, but I assume that's just a coincidence) except for this single issue (Tomel 101), and I can't find any reference to the album referenced on the 45. It may not exist. http://cgi.ebay.com/Don-Wilkerson-Low-Down-Dirty-Shame-45-/190524799797?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2c5c29bb35 I would guess that it is not. The label states that this is from the LP "In the Shadow of the Blues" - has anyone here ever heard of this LP? Furthermore, the label gives a California address, and Wilkerson is known to have spent the last 20+ years of his life (he died in 1986) in Houston, Texas. My guess is that this record was issued in the 1970's or later. Quote
Stereojack Posted May 19, 2011 Report Posted May 19, 2011 Points well taken. I assumed that since Michael Fitzgerald included it in his discography, that he had some reason for assuming it was the same artist. Note, however, that he's listed on alto saxophone, while his "known" recordings show him on tenor. Someone needs to win the record and find out! http://cgi.ebay.com/Don-Wilkerson-Low-Down-Dirty-Shame-45-/190524799797?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2c5c29bb35 I would guess that it is not. The label states that this is from the LP "In the Shadow of the Blues" - has anyone here ever heard of this LP? Furthermore, the label gives a California address, and Wilkerson is known to have spent the last 20+ years of his life (he died in 1986) in Houston, Texas. My guess is that this record was issued in the 1970's or later. My comments were written before I saw your reference to the Fitzgerald discography. Even so, I am skeptical, especially knowing that Michael Fitzgerald (for whom I have the utmost respect) relied on input from many collectors (myself included) to assemble his research, and it only stands to reason that not all of it is 100% accurate.I'll defer to JSngry - at least he's heard the record. I haven't. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted May 19, 2011 Report Posted May 19, 2011 Also stumbled on this, which I'd never seen before (source). Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted May 19, 2011 Report Posted May 19, 2011 (edited) Previous thread, and it turns out a couple people here have this single. Edit: and -- HA!! -- couw posted the same French 45 cover I did!! What a gas! Edited May 19, 2011 by Rooster_Ties Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted May 19, 2011 Author Report Posted May 19, 2011 dude how did you uncover the bmi info like that? Quote
jazztrain Posted May 19, 2011 Report Posted May 19, 2011 (edited) At the risk of revealing some of my secrets, I just went to their website and searched. I'll defer to JSngry who has actually heard the recording. Some searching reveals that there are copies out their to be had if one is so inclined. The next questions are when and where it was recorded and under what circumstances. dude how did you uncover the bmi info like that? Edited May 19, 2011 by jazztrain Quote
clifford_thornton Posted May 19, 2011 Report Posted May 19, 2011 Huh. I'll have to try and find one of these. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted May 20, 2011 Author Report Posted May 20, 2011 man did one of u bid on that, if u do u gotta post it on the youtube 4 us! don in the 80s. very very interesting. i bet 80s don is just as awesome as 60s don. I would love to see like the B52s C. 1983 open up the concert for him Quote
clifford_thornton Posted May 20, 2011 Report Posted May 20, 2011 I didn't bid on it but there is a copy on Amazon for 10 bones. Quote
JSngry Posted April 14, 2014 Report Posted April 14, 2014 I'm more inclined to agree with you that it may be another Don Wilkerson. Here's some more information: The record credits Brother Brown Publishing as the publisher. BMI lists the following information for Buster Brown Publishing: JERRY DON WHITE DBA BROTHER BROWN PUBLISHING 7406 LASALLE LOS ANGELES, CA 90047-2419 (213) 753-0861 Different address on LaSalle Avenue in LA but clearly a connection. Someone could presumably try to call Jerry Don White for more information. BMI lists several tunes under the "Low Down Dirty Shame" title, one of which is the one we're looking for: >>> LOW DOWN DIRTY SHAME (Legal Title) BMI Work #933881 Songwriter/Composer Current Affiliation CAE/IPI # WILKERSON DON NA 0 Publishers BROTHER BROWN PUBLISHING BMI 50834691 >>> I can't find any reference to Tomel records (if you re-order the letters, you get the beginning of Mel Torme, but I assume that's just a coincidence) except for this single issue (Tomel 101), and I can't find any reference to the album referenced on the 45. It may not exist. 7406 La Salle Avenue Los Angeles, CA 90047 Owner: JERRY D DECD OF WHITE EST Total land value: $145,000 (it was $59,872 in 2009)Total building value: $77,000 (it was $59,872 in 2009)Total value for property: $222,000 (it was $119,744 in 2009)Recording date: 09/07/2008Year built: 1926Effective year built: 1926Area of property: 1,092 square feetAssessment for fiscal year: 2012/2013 Read more: http://www.city-data.com/los-angeles-county/L/La-Salle-Avenue-68.html#ixzz2yp2Vodm1 Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted April 14, 2014 Report Posted April 14, 2014 I'm more inclined to agree with you that it may be another Don Wilkerson. Here's some more information: The record credits Brother Brown Publishing as the publisher. BMI lists the following information for Buster Brown Publishing: JERRY DON WHITE DBA BROTHER BROWN PUBLISHING 7406 LASALLE LOS ANGELES, CA 90047-2419 (213) 753-0861 Different address on LaSalle Avenue in LA but clearly a connection. Someone could presumably try to call Jerry Don White for more information. BMI lists several tunes under the "Low Down Dirty Shame" title, one of which is the one we're looking for: >>> LOW DOWN DIRTY SHAME (Legal Title) BMI Work #933881 Songwriter/Composer Current Affiliation CAE/IPI # WILKERSON DON NA 0 Publishers BROTHER BROWN PUBLISHING BMI 50834691 >>> I can't find any reference to Tomel records (if you re-order the letters, you get the beginning of Mel Torme, but I assume that's just a coincidence) except for this single issue (Tomel 101), and I can't find any reference to the album referenced on the 45. It may not exist. 7406 La Salle Avenue Los Angeles, CA 90047 Owner: JERRY D DECD OF WHITE EST Total land value: $145,000 (it was $59,872 in 2009)Total building value: $77,000 (it was $59,872 in 2009)Total value for property: $222,000 (it was $119,744 in 2009)Recording date: 09/07/2008Year built: 1926Effective year built: 1926Area of property: 1,092 square feetAssessment for fiscal year: 2012/2013 Read more: http://www.city-data.com/los-angeles-county/L/La-Salle-Avenue-68.html#ixzz2yp2Vodm1 So Jerry is dead? Est on the end is never a good thing when you're trying to find someone by a property search. Quote
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