Leeway Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 I ran across some records on the INGO label, which according to a note on the Discogs site, was "an Italian bootleg label issuing rare jazz broadcasts." Here is a link to the label discography: INGO list at Discogs Does anyone have any INGO titles in their collection? I'd like to know the quality and integrity of the performances (i.e., are these hacked up, or cobbled together recordings or integral performances?) Also, what is the audio quality on these records? Anything else about the operation of this label if you know. Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Had some years ago. Seemed to be average boots sound-wise. I know Jerry Valburn told me he was the source for a number of tapes. He seemed to be proud of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Ingo was one of several bootleg labels that popped up in Italy in the 80s. I still have a couple of them (including the Cecil Taylor LP from the Golden Circle). Most of the albums (Mingus, Coltrane...) have been available in more complete CD releases from Spain. The CT remains unreissued. Undistinguished cover and sound! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 brownie, what's that CT - this one here? The Golden Circle, Stockholm, October, 1962 Spontaneous Improvisation 14:35 Flamingo (Gruoya-Anderson) 14:15 Cecil Taylor: piano; Jimmy Lyons: alto sax; Sunny Murray: drums; Kurt Lindgren: bass The Early Unit 1962 Ingo (Italy) Sixteen (lp) (Entry #11 here) Don't think I've ever heard it, but looks great!Here's a cover (for a Mingus boot), think they all look similar: link in case it won't show: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Yes, that's the one! Rare opportunity to listen to CT and his Unit live in the early 60s (beside 'Nefertiti')... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeway Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Hi, thanks for the replies. I was busy at work, then went to Baltimore for the High Zero Festival. Anyway, I ended up picking up: "Thelonius Monk Quartet, 1961 European Tour, Vol. 1" Mostly out of curiosity really. The quartet is Monk, Rouse, Dunlop, and Ore (if the album credits can be relied upon). The recording is supposed to be Bern, May 10, 1961. I don't know if this performance (again, if date/location is accurate) has been issued elsewhere. Anyone know? I have not had a chance to listen to it yet. The cover is like the one King Ubu posted except the cover color is blue. I would like to find the "Love Supreme Live" INGO LP, as well as the Cecil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 The Love Supreme Live is presumably the same recording that was issued on the France's Concert label and more recently in the expanded Impulse reissue of A Love Supreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 I used to have a Clifford Brown and a two Mulligan's. If I recall the sound on the Brownie was pretty awful and the Mulligan's seemed to have been badly processed somewhere along the line. I didn't keep them, I didn't get much pleasure from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Those 70s/80s Italian bootleg labels were usually pretty bad vinyl/pressings as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Those 70s/80s Italian bootleg labels were usually pretty bad vinyl/pressings as well. Completely agree. And not only the bootlegs. Some of the Horos were awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Hi, thanks for the replies. I was busy at work, then went to Baltimore for the High Zero Festival. Anyway, I ended up picking up: "Thelonius Monk Quartet, 1961 European Tour, Vol. 1" Mostly out of curiosity really. The quartet is Monk, Rouse, Dunlop, and Ore (if the album credits can be relied upon). The recording is supposed to be Bern, May 10, 1961. I don't know if this performance (again, if date/location is accurate) has been issued elsewhere. Anyone know? I have not had a chance to listen to it yet. The cover is like the one King Ubu posted except the cover color is blue. I would like to find the "Love Supreme Live" INGO LP, as well as the Cecil. The Bern Monk was out on cd on the Magnetic label. Sound is not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Those 70s/80s Italian bootleg labels were usually pretty bad vinyl/pressings as well. Completely agree. And not only the bootlegs. Some of the Horos were awful. Yeah, Horos are often laughable, on the BYG trip or even worse! I have a few Ingos including the Cecil; I don't listen to them much but they're interesting to have around. The sound isn't great but the pressings appear to be okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Had a Monk on Ingo. Got rid of it long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 I had a Max Roach Quintet live from Italy or Switzerland - exciting band with Spaulding etc., but the endless solos drove me mad. Rollins guested with Max and his bassist - Jymie Merritt, IIRC, and played even longer .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 I still have Ingo Nine (Sonny Rollins Trio in Sweden 1959). Great album that I have not listened to since Dragon released the same concerts in more complete form and better audio! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeway Posted September 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 The Love Supreme Live is presumably the same recording that was issued on the France's Concert label and more recently in the expanded Impulse reissue of A Love Supreme. Thanks. It probably is the same performance, although INGO of course provides only the sketchiest details (operating in that manner requires, let us say, a certain amount of reticence Am listening to the Monk LP now. Not as bad as I feared. Some drop-outs, some (OK a bit more than some in spots) distortion, but otherwise decent enough. BTW, it's a good performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Maybe the first one ? ingo one Stan Getz quartet live at the Village Vanguard. two dates from the Village Vanguard in June 1957. also added to the LP 3 tracks from the Red Hill Inn Feb 1957 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 The Love Supreme Live is presumably the same recording that was issued on the France's Concert label and more recently in the expanded Impulse reissue of A Love Supreme. Thanks. It probably is the same performance, although INGO of course provides only the sketchiest details (operating in that manner requires, let us say, a certain amount of reticence Just trust the folks here... and the research done by all the Trane experts. There's just ONE full live version of "A Love Supreme" and it's from Antibes/Juan-les-Pins and included in pretty good sound on the 2CD reissue of "A Love Supreme" (which is an essential reissue anyway, if only for the studio outtakes!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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