david weiss Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Now.....getting back to the matter at hand...... I think it is a matter of how you define hard bop. I have a bit of a problem with this now as one of my projects The Cookers is constantly called hard bop (even hard bop icons). Now to me, hard bop starts with the Max Roach/Clifford Brown group and is defined by Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers and Horace Silver. It evolves from there of course and what that turns to if we are playing the label the music game is where the trouble starts and is probably the point where Mr. Baraka and the like want to get off the train as things were evolving and changing and going in many different directions. There was the avant garde of course and John Coltrane and whatever the Miles Davis Quintet with Wayne, Herbie, Ron and Tony were doing. Plus the Blue Note guys Andrew Hill, Joe Henderson etc etc. I think at that particular time, a writer like Mr. Baraka might find the tried and true hard bop stuff becoming a little stale with this other stuff going on. But again, it goes back to your definition of hard bop. I've seen Mr. Baraka at many gigs I was on, Freddie Hubbard, Charles Tolliver, The Cookers and even perhaps the Lee Morgan tribute thing I do. So he certainly has a taste for whatever you call that next step, whatever hard bop evolved into and as these guys probably excited him in the '60s, they still seem to do it for him today. On a personal note, I've met Mr. Baraka several times and he has always been friendly with me. He is a fan of the music and for that, I'm appreciative. The same with Cornell West. He came to a Freddie Hubbard gig once and the hang after the gig with Freddie, Mr. West, Curtis Fuller and Javon Jackson was a lot of fun. He has a great sense of humor (as all those guys do) and knows the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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