Buddha the Magnificent Posted February 13, 2019 Report Posted February 13, 2019 Denny Zeitlin and Charlie Haden - Time Remembers One Time Once (1983, ECM 1239). Denny Zeitlin - piano; Charlie Haden - bass. Quote
soulpope Posted February 13, 2019 Report Posted February 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buddha the Magnificent said: Denny Zeitlin and Charlie Haden - Time Remembers One Time Once (1983, ECM 1239). Denny Zeitlin - piano; Charlie Haden - bass. Great music .... Quote
BillF Posted February 13, 2019 Report Posted February 13, 2019 5 hours ago, John Tapscott said: Quote
JSngry Posted February 13, 2019 Author Report Posted February 13, 2019 40 years old, and I swear it gets better with every listen. Right now it's at "whoa, pretty damn good, actually, how did this happen?" level. Ok, "Tai Chi" sucks, but now that I'm not letting him get in my way, Larry Coryell is no longer a nuisance, and Sonny is flowing freely. Granted freeing freely in the "Studio Sonny" manner, but as always I ask - who the hell else in the world has or could ever play like this? and perspective reveals itself. Quote
HutchFan Posted February 14, 2019 Report Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) Dipping into the big RCA Duke box again tonight: The Duke Ellington Centennial Edition: The Complete RCA Victor Recordings (1927-1973) Discs 11 & 12 Ivie Anderson. The best Ellington vocalist ever? ...Betty Roché comes close, but she didn't stay long. Nell Brookshire was wasn't half bad. Adelaide Hall's and Kay Davis' wordless vocal things were beautiful. ...But I'd put Ivie in the pole position. Anderson may not have had a knock-you-on-your-booty voice -- but she had soul. IMHO, none of the men come close. I do like Herb Jeffries "Flamingo"; otherwise, I'd rather hear the ladies sing. Edited February 14, 2019 by HutchFan Quote
ghost of miles Posted February 14, 2019 Report Posted February 14, 2019 43 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Dipping into the big RCA Duke box again tonight: The Duke Ellington Centennial Edition: The Complete RCA Victor Recordings (1927-1973) Discs 11 & 12 Ivie Anderson. The best Ellington vocalist ever? ...Betty Roché comes close, but she didn't stay long. Nell Brookshire was wasn't half bad. Adelaide Hall's and Kay Davis' wordless vocal things were beautiful. ...But I'd put Ivie in the pole position. Anderson may not have had a knock-you-on-your-booty voice -- but she had soul. IMHO, none of the men come close. I do like Herb Jeffries "Flamingo"; otherwise, I'd rather hear the ladies sing. As much as I love Betty Roche, I'd probably agree that Ivie noses past her as Ellington's "best" regular-band vocalist; Joya Sherrill's another favorite of mine. When it comes to male vocalists, I know Al Hibbler drives some folks up the wall, but I actually enjoy his presence in the mid-to-late-40s edition of the orchestra. 4 hours ago, soulpope said: "This is your brain on Coltrane." Quote
JSngry Posted February 14, 2019 Author Report Posted February 14, 2019 No love for Milt Grayson? Quote
paul secor Posted February 14, 2019 Report Posted February 14, 2019 The Best of Blind Willie McTell (Yazoo) Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted February 14, 2019 Report Posted February 14, 2019 So I have these - am I covered? Quote
HutchFan Posted February 14, 2019 Report Posted February 14, 2019 42 minutes ago, JSngry said: No love for Milt Grayson? I like Grayson and Hibbler and Jeffries and all those guys. I just prefer Ivie's singing. For example, has anyone ever done a better version of "I Got It Bad (and That Ain't Good)"? Quote
paul secor Posted February 14, 2019 Report Posted February 14, 2019 59 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said: So I have these - am I covered? There are some good sides on Decca that aren't included on those, but unless you're a McTell completist, you have the best of his early sides covered. Quote
jeffcrom Posted February 14, 2019 Report Posted February 14, 2019 Henry Threadgill - Song Out of My Trees, from the Black Saint box set. Quote
Justin V Posted February 14, 2019 Report Posted February 14, 2019 1 hour ago, JSngry said: No love for Milt Grayson? 50 minutes ago, HutchFan said: I like Grayson and Hibbler and Jeffries and all those guys. I just prefer Ivie's singing. For example, has anyone ever done a better version of "I Got It Bad (and That Ain't Good)"? I am an Ozzie Bailey fan. Quote
paul secor Posted February 14, 2019 Report Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, jeffcrom said: Henry Threadgill - Song Out of My Trees, from the Black Saint box set. Some of my favorite music from Mr. Threadgill. N.P. Thanks to John S. for the reminder of this one. "Odwalla" is one of my favorite jazz theme songs. Edited February 14, 2019 by paul secor Quote
kh1958 Posted February 14, 2019 Report Posted February 14, 2019 Sam Newsome and Jean Michel Pilc, Magic Circle Quote
Gheorghe Posted February 14, 2019 Report Posted February 14, 2019 13 hours ago, Brad said: Here you go Gheorghe. Disc 2. Thank you very much, Brad ! I think they have wonderful cover photos, also the photos from the inside sleeve, and nice liner notes. Right now I listen to the second CD "Four in One", with David Williams replacing Buster Williams. David Williams also wrote a nice little waltz for that album "Keep the Master in Mind" , maybe he´s referring to Cedar Walton. Gary Bartz is one of the most versatile musicians around, he has done everything from bop to avantgarde, world music , but here he shows that he never forgot his bop roots. Somehow like Jackie McLean, but he could not be confused with Jackie McLean, he has a softer sound and more subtile phrasing. Quote
soulpope Posted February 14, 2019 Report Posted February 14, 2019 4 hours ago, paul secor said: The Best of Blind Willie McTell (Yazoo) Nice compi .... Quote
sidewinder Posted February 14, 2019 Report Posted February 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Gheorghe said: Gary Bartz is one of the most versatile musicians around, he has done everything from bop to avantgarde, world music , but here he shows that he never forgot his bop roots. Somehow like Jackie McLean, but he could not be confused with Jackie McLean, he has a softer sound and more subtile phrasing. That is true about Gary Bartz. Some years ago I saw him do a fusion-based gig with Eddie Henderson. With both artists I had a feeling that this stuff, where they majored in the 70s/80s, was not in line with their current norm. Both handled it with aplomb though. Quote
JSngry Posted February 14, 2019 Author Report Posted February 14, 2019 Ivie was beyond category. Ozzie Bailey, yeah! Tony Watkins too. Other than Ivie, Ellington's vocalists, the male ones in particular, seem to have been less than universally loved in their time. There's been at best a partial market correction since. But jeez, they were pretty much always there in some form or fashion, so what does that say about Duke? Pretty much that that "thing" was a part of his palette and damned if he wasn't going to use it. You can't see the whole picture unless you see every color, texture, shape, etc/whatever. And with Duke, there's no end to how much of that there is, from beginning to end. I entertain no illusions that I'll ever be able to see the entire picture all at once, other than the people who were there all the way, and ultimately, that's Duke and nobody else. It was his to create, it's ours to discover, and unless/until proven otherwise, it's as close to infinite as there is. Now, having said all that - Money Johnson, hmmmm.... Quote
HutchFan Posted February 14, 2019 Report Posted February 14, 2019 54 minutes ago, JSngry said: Ivie was beyond category. Ozzie Bailey, yeah! Tony Watkins too. Other than Ivie, Ellington's vocalists, the male ones in particular, seem to have been less than universally loved in their time. There's been at best a partial market correction since. But jeez, they were pretty much always there in some form or fashion, so what does that say about Duke? Pretty much that that "thing" was a part of his palette and damned if he wasn't going to use it. You can't see the whole picture unless you see every color, texture, shape, etc/whatever. And with Duke, there's no end to how much of that there is, from beginning to end. I entertain no illusions that I'll ever be able to see the entire picture all at once, other than the people who were there all the way, and ultimately, that's Duke and nobody else. It was his to create, it's ours to discover, and unless/until proven otherwise, it's as close to infinite as there is. Now, having said all that - Money Johnson, hmmmm.... Well put! Still rolling with EKE this morning: The Complete 1932-40 Brunswick, Columbia and Master Recordings of Duke Ellington and His Orchestra (Mosaic) Disc 1 Duke Ellington - Blues in Orbit (Columbia/Legacy) Quote
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