jazzbo Posted May 8 Report Posted May 8 Decided to play this one, and starting off with “Leo: Rosebud” in honor of today’s big event. Cannonball Adderley “Love, Sex, and the Zodiac” P-Vine cd Quote
T.D. Posted May 8 Report Posted May 8 (edited) Have known about Dumitrescu for a long time but haven't listened recently. Surprised to (randomly) find this on bandcamp today. Google indicates hits on the Corbett vs Dempsey website but the C vs D site itself shows no trace of Dumitrescu. Forced Exposure seems to have the CD as a C vs D release, though. Edited May 8 by T.D. Quote
jazzbo Posted May 8 Report Posted May 8 1m 500×446 38.7 KB Kenny Burrell “Blues–The Common Ground” Verve Japan SHM-CD Quote
felser Posted May 8 Report Posted May 8 1961 recordings, shockingly good (as is much 60's-70's Kenton I encounter): Quote
T.D. Posted May 9 Report Posted May 9 25 minutes ago, rostasi said: An electronic music musician sent me a CD-R. It sounded too much like Dumitrescu and not the person(s) he said was supposed to be on it. A bit of research turned up the recording above, so I ended up getting that disc inadvertently. Slightly related: I've often wondered how Ana-Maria Avram had died - a talented composer who died way too young. It's a pretty good album. I really enjoy the first 3 (of 4) pieces, not wild about the fourth. Dumitrescu only wrote the first piece but conducts the others. I haven't heard that much by Dumitrescu, my bad. Discovered his music after seeing some comparisons to Radulescu, but didn't follow up sufficiently (it was ancient pre-bandcamp era when CDs were scarce on the ground). Going to look for more online. Very sad about A-M Avram, haven't heard any details. Quote
Rabshakeh Posted May 9 Report Posted May 9 Johnathan Blake – Passage Amazing to think that jazz used to be a disreputable party music. Listening to this record is like being stuck in a stuffy lecture theatre. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted May 9 Report Posted May 9 45 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said: Johnathan Blake – Passage Amazing to think that jazz used to be a disreputable party music. Listening to this record is like being stuck in a stuffy lecture theatre. So I take it you don't like it? I have yet to pick this up but it sounds like maybe I don't need to. Quote
jazzbo Posted May 9 Report Posted May 9 4 minutes ago, Kevin Bresnahan said: So I take it you don't like it? I have yet to pick this up but it sounds like maybe I don't need to. Personally I really like it. I like this new direction towards a more "intellectual" jazz--that's how I hear it and similar recordings with these musicians. Quote
Rabshakeh Posted May 9 Report Posted May 9 14 minutes ago, Kevin Bresnahan said: So I take it you don't like it? I have yet to pick this up but it sounds like maybe I don't need to. 8 minutes ago, jazzbo said: Personally I really like it. I like this new direction towards a more "intellectual" jazz--that's how I hear it and similar recordings with these musicians. I think Jazzbo is right in his description. It is modern post bop and studious with it. I personally found it very boring. Whilst it certainly is "intellectual" I found it perhaps not creative or very fresh. Everything is in the mix and played with slick facility but my feeling was that the songs aren't great and excitement doesn't even seem to be a goal. However, that is just my idiot opinion. I am at any point in time slightly agnostic about these players (I quite like Ross and Wilkins), so if you normally like these musicians a lot it is worth probably following Jazzbo's tastes over mine. In any case, it is streamable, so there's the opportunity to give it a go and see who is right. Quote
jazzbo Posted May 9 Report Posted May 9 (edited) I hear it differently but that's cool. We all get excited over things others don't and vice versa. What I like about these recordings is that they are exploring a new direction without diluting the jazz tradition with so many other influences. That's a fresh approach to my ears. I don't dig "jazz" with so much rock and world etc. influences. Edited May 9 by jazzbo Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted May 9 Report Posted May 9 50 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said: I think Jazzbo is right in his description. It is modern post bop and studious with it. I personally found it very boring. Whilst it certainly is "intellectual" I found it perhaps not creative or very fresh. Everything is in the mix and played with slick facility but my feeling was that the songs aren't great and excitement doesn't even seem to be a goal. However, that is just my idiot opinion. I am at any point in time slightly agnostic about these players (I quite like Ross and Wilkins), so if you normally like these musicians a lot it is worth probably following Jazzbo's tastes over mine. In any case, it is streamable, so there's the opportunity to give it a go and see who is right. I've been going to quite a few Jazz shows lately where this style is in play. I wouldn't call it boring but comparing it to a lecture hall is a good analogy. To be honest, seeing a whole set of this style of music isn't my idea of a great show. Not a bad show, but not great. Quote
JSngry Posted May 9 Author Report Posted May 9 Liking it. Liking it just fine, in fact. If we're done with true innovation, this kind of assertive evolved identity music will do just fine as one of the viable options. Produced by Walter Smith III, facilitated by Don Was and crew. Blue Note is having a moment! Quote
Rabshakeh Posted May 9 Report Posted May 9 24 minutes ago, JSngry said: Liking it. Liking it just fine, in fact. If we're done with true innovation, this kind of assertive evolved identity music will do just fine as one of the viable options. Produced by Walter Smith III, facilitated by Don Was and crew. Blue Note is having a moment! This one is good. As I said above, I do like Joel Ross. 3 hours ago, Kevin Bresnahan said: I've been going to quite a few Jazz shows lately where this style is in play. I wouldn't call it boring but comparing it to a lecture hall is a good analogy. To be honest, seeing a whole set of this style of music isn't my idea of a great show. Not a bad show, but not great. What I really don't like is that feeling that I am going to a jazz gig to learn and improve myself: Straight faced and studious players, opening with a speech about the importance of the music, and total silence solemn from the audience. That last factor has become a particular bugbear for me. I went to an Evan Parker show recently at OTO and accidentally fell over someone on my way to the loo. I tried to apologise (quietly) and the person I'd squashed actually shushed me. Fingers on the lips, like I was a schoolchild. I think it is a great thing for a musician to play the music that he or she loves, and hard bop and post bop is music that I love to hear. The tradition to which these musicians have decided to dedicate themselves is a raucous one where the music was played to be enjoyed. Quality wise I think that these modern Blue Note records can be hit and miss, but I do make sure to check them out, because they're rarely rubbish and some are good. I think that the hit rate is probably higher than the likes of International Anthem or Clean Feed. That doesn't mean that they're all great but current output is pretty good. Quote
Rabshakeh Posted May 9 Report Posted May 9 2 hours ago, Jazzmonkie said: What is this one? Looks fun. Why is Zappa I American? Quote
JSngry Posted May 9 Author Report Posted May 9 32 minutes ago, rostasi said: Jimmy Lyons - alto saxophone Karen Borca - bassoon Hayes Burnett - bass Henry Letcher - drums Syd Smart - drums There ya' go. Quote
JSngry Posted May 9 Author Report Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Rabshakeh said: What I really don't like is that feeling that I am going to a jazz gig to learn and improve myself: Straight faced and studious players, opening with a speech about the importance of the music, and total silence solemn from the audience. That last factor has become a particular bugbear for me. I went to an Evan Parker show recently at OTO and accidentally fell over someone on my way to the loo. I tried to apologise (quietly) and the person I'd squashed actually shushed me. Fingers on the lips, like I was a schoolchild. I think it is a great thing for a musician to play the music that he or she loves, and hard bop and post bop is music that I love to hear. The tradition to which these musicians have decided to dedicate themselves is a raucous one where the music was played to be enjoyed. Hazel Scott is on your side: Quote
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