Dmitry Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Awful. My condolences to the families and the loved ones. This is our reality, and I'm afraid it will not stop any time soon, if ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 My sentiments too. I can't talk further about what this brings up in my mind yet again because of the ban on politics, but I wish the best for all the surviving wounded and their families, and the families of all who have lost their lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Horrific. When I left for work at 5 a.m. The death toll was already a staggering 20, with 100 injured. About an hour later it had jumped to 50 dead, 200 injured. I'm scared to see if those numbers have gone up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milestones Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Very sad...must be a case of pure evil or pure insanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Often it is both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) Goddamn... Now up to 58 dead, 400 injured. One has to wonder how many were killed/injured by the actually gunman, and how many sustained serious/mortal injuries during the ensuing stampede... Edited October 2, 2017 by Scott Dolan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Sorrow and bewilderment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 4 hours ago, Scott Dolan said: Goddamn... Now up to 58 dead, 400 injured. One has to wonder how many were killed/injured by the actually gunman, and how many sustained serious/mortal injuries during the ensuing stampede... I was wondering the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milestones Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Yes, but anyone would go into a state of panic and a stampede would result...no way around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Absolutely, Milestones. I apologise if I implied otherwise. I certainly didn't mean to lay blame on those running for their lives. We'd have all done the same thing. A horrendous scene that I can't even imagine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstation1 Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 Sad that someone will try and top the last person's total.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstation1 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 http://timelines.latimes.com/deadliest-shooting-rampages/ Tucson is on this list twice ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstation1 Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 How can someone break glass with a hammer that is suppose to be hurricane proof ?? They need to replace the broken glass ASAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Hahaha... Now, stop and ask yourself: what the fuck would they need with Hurricane proof glass in Las Vegas, Nevada? Hint: that story was made up bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted October 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 Bizarre. They are still not supplying the public with a credible motive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 He was fucking crazy, that's all the motive anybody needs. Either that or he was being mind-controlled. Either way, not complicated. People wring their hands every time this happens and wonder how it could happen. It's easy - people go fucking crazy, that's how. Guns are easy to get and people go fucking crazy. A child can do that math, it takes an adult to make it complicated. Now, why do people go fucking crazy? Hell if i know. But they sure be doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 The way he planned and executed what he did seems too methodical to be in the bag of "go fucking crazy." Also, there's lots of other mass murderers, and this guy's pattern seems not to fit previous ones. When/if we do find out more, I'll bet it'll be a head scratcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 I'm comfortable with that he went crazy at some past point and then stayed crazy until the end. Either that or he was being mind-controlled. This whole "double life" thing.... There are crazy people everywhere, it's the primary ingredient in modern life, and has been for a good while now. Make people crazy, and then set the traps and take the money. Of course, this guy was crazier than most, but I tell you, he was crazy, even if he hid it longer and better than most. Of course, everybody's got their own idea of crazy, but if survival is hard-wired into most living things,, it's not hard to see how easy it is to go crazy once insecurity turns into action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstation1 Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 He worked for the IRS & Post Office Nuff Said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 “He acted like everybody worked for him and that he was above others,” said John Weinreich, 48, a former executive casino host at the Atlantis Casino Resort Spa in Reno, where he saw Mr. Paddock frequently from 2012 to 2014. When Mr. Paddock wanted food while he was gambling, he wanted it immediately and would order with more than one server if the meal did not arrive quickly enough. Guys who order from more than one server syndrome -- a dead giveaway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted October 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Larry Kart said: Guys who order from more than one server syndrome -- a dead giveaway. Yeah, the FBI profilers will have a field day with that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 18 hours ago, Dmitry said: Bizarre. They are still not supplying the public with a credible motive. If they cannot find one, then what exactly are they going to present to the public? Even though Jim's take on this stands in direct opposition to the intellectual curiosity he demanded of himself with the Hino story, I agree agree with everything he's said. Cat went batshit crazy, murdered a shitload of people, then killed himself. The End They've already exhausted all the usual suspects. He wasn't a Muslim convert, rightwing nutjob, leftwing nutjob, and so on. There was no religious or political motivation behind this attack. Just a batshitter with an arsenal that could supply a small army. I'm not sure what else we even need to know at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 I would like to learn the chronology of how long it took him to get that crazy, and then how long he stayed that crazy. It seems that at some point he became a full-blown sociopath, but then rode it for a good while before fully acting out on it to this final degree, Maybe as much as he won't help us understand "mass killers", he can that much help us understand sociopaths, Myself, I think this is The Golden Age Of Sociopathy, so let's get busy studying, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Only problem being that he's dead, with no previously documented mental health issues. There's nothing left to study. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Autopsy his brain, like they did with Charles Whitman, trace his life back years, not just weeks, Larry might have been joking about "multiple server syndrome" but still, this is a guy who appears to have spent some time building up a feeling of superiority to and contempt towards other people. Might take a while to piece together a fuller picture, but it's worth a try, if only because there's a lot of that going around these days, and if it's not yet common to have one random guy decide that he's entitled to take lives for his own amusement or some such, because he feels that he's above all of them, then the trend is definitely there, and is little by little getting mainstreamed. That's what I'd like to see investigated, because that's what all of this is starting to look like to me, like it's an easy answer, but not an easy blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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