BFT 202 Discussion

[Dan Gould]

11 minutes ago, felser said:

Bootsie Barnes was an inspired choice for Philly, then.  Larry McKenna also would have been.   

Yet I listened to their CD but refused to pick a tune because ... that would be too easy for listeners.

 

[JSngry]

Ok, so....pick a town for further considerations?

Detroit on #13? Wendell Harrison?

[Milestones]

I have not seen a BFT this tough in ages.

[Dan Gould]

1 hour ago, JSngry said:

Ok, so....pick a town for further considerations?

Detroit on #13? Wendell Harrison?

Nope Detroit is not in the house on this one.

[Dan Gould]

1 hour ago, Milestones said:

I have not seen a BFT this tough in ages.

Dude you have excellent perceptive ears. Don't worry about guessing unless you feel like it; I'd love to hear your impressions of the tunes and performances themselves even without any solid ideas.

[randyhersom]

Buck Hill could be somewhere in the mix.

[Dan Gould]

11 hours ago, randyhersom said:

Buck Hill could be somewhere in the mix.

Setting aside Percy France, he's the first guy I'd think of when I hear "local" - even if he did go on to international recognition.

[JSngry]

Maurice Robinson(?), alto? DC guy. Is that him doing what I though might have been Frank Morgan?

[Dan Gould]

9 minutes ago, JSngry said:

Maurice Robinson(?), alto? DC guy. Is that him doing what I though might have been Frank Morgan?

As opposed to the one doing Sonny Stitt?

No, never heard that name before. 

[felser]

Andrew White in there anywhere?

[Dan Gould]

16 hours ago, felser said:

Andrew White in there anywhere?

Nope.

[Dan Gould]

Setting aside Philadelphia and St Louis for the two identified tracks (and Dallas, which Jim didn't fully identify the recording but named the star artist), the following cities are referenced among the remaining tracks:

Milwaukee 

Birmingham (at the time of recording, could also be Milwaukee)

Baltimore

D.C.

NYC

New Haven

Chicago

and what I am going to call Ohio/Indiana (Ohio for location of recording, Indiana for apparent long-term involvement)

And I just hope that HP and Thom (and Milestones) are able to join in ...

[JSngry]

So, I'm thinking that something here is Mickey Fields?

The one I thought was Stitt?

[Dan Gould]

6 minutes ago, JSngry said:

So, I'm thinking that something here is Mickey Fields?

The one I thought was Stitt?

Nope no Mickey Fields.

[Dan Gould]

New hints:

Amongst the mysteries are artists connected to:

George Russell

Allen Lowe

Sun Ra.

[Dan Gould]

<crickets>

Sigh.

[felser]

22 hours ago, Dan Gould said:

<crickets>

Sigh.

Dan, my December BFT went Dec. 17-28 with no comments - it's the nature of the beast.

[Dan Gould]

4 minutes ago, felser said:

Dan, my December BFT went Dec. 17-28 with no comments - it's the nature of the beast.

yeah its true but I have tried to chum the waters by giving hints and ... nada so far.

[Dub Modal]

Listening again. Really liking these tunes on the second go-round, especially 2 & 3, 7-13...

Is that Phil Woods on 5? 

Is #7 Illinois Jacquet with Wild Bill or Milt Buckner?

Tyrone Hill on #9?

I'm thinking Fathead is somewhere in here too...not #10 since that was already guessed...the second one #12 then?

Steve Grossman on #13? Or is it Liebman & Brecker?

Some wild guesses here but figured I'd give it another go.

 

 

 

[Dan Gould]

7 minutes ago, Dub Modal said:

Listening again. Really liking these tunes on the second go-round, especially 2 & 3, 7-13...

Is that Phil Woods on 5? 

Is #7 Illinois Jacquet with Wild Bill or Milt Buckner?

Tyrone Hill on #9?

I'm thinking Fathead is somewhere in here too...not #10 since that was already guessed...the second one #12 then?

Steve Grossman on #13? Or is it Liebman & Brecker?

Some wild guesses here but figured I'd give it another go.

 

 

 

Thanks for coming back and glad they appealed even more on the second time around.

None of the guesses are right ... keep in mind that based on the two identifications and Jim's knowledge of track 2 (but not revealed) that the theme was "Local" - cats who got recorded but stayed under the radar - local legends as it were.  Baltimore, Washington DC, Milwaukee, Birmingham, NYC, New Haven, Chicago and what might be described as the Heartland (Indiana/Ohio) still on the board.

George Russell, Sun Ra, Allen Lowe connections too.

Oh and here's a new one: one artist was featured on a program on Investigation Discovery, which if you do not know runs various and sundry "true crime" programming.

[JSngry]

I guess I can put Paul Plummer out there...

[Dan Gould]

19 minutes ago, JSngry said:

I guess I can put Paul Plummer out there...

Sure, if you name the track. Double if you name the actual recording because, you know, that's the name of the game.

[Dub Modal]

Well, found this. Donald Lewis - what a tragedy. 

https://www.thecinemaholic.com/donald-lewis-murder/

32 minutes ago, Dan Gould said:

Oh and here's a new one: one artist was featured on a program on Investigation Discovery, which if you do not know runs various and sundry "true crime" programming.

 

[Dan Gould]

11 minutes ago, Dub Modal said:

Well, found this. Donald Lewis - what a tragedy. 

https://www.thecinemaholic.com/donald-lewis-murder/

 

I knew it would be too easy to find, most likely.

[JSngry]

14 minutes ago, Dan Gould said:

Sure, if you name the track. Double if you name the actual recording because, you know, that's the name of the game.

I feel bad about doing that, because I "cheated", using Shazam.