Anthony Braxton Quartet Standards 2020

[tranemonk]

8 hours ago, erwbol said:

12 remaining...

5 left for anyone on the fence....

[Chuck Nessa]

Just now, rostasi said:

4...

That was me.

[mjazzg]

Trigger pulled

[jlhoots]

Saved $130 - BUT bought the ZIM blu-ray so I'm not as far ahead as I thought. 

Edited June 19, 2021 by jlhoots

[tranemonk]

Does his stuff always go this fast??? What was so unique about this set? I know 300 isn't a lot.. but that set seemed to go very fast...

[JSngry]

I had it in my cart, but for some reason the bank sent out a fraud alert on the transaction at exactly the time when my granddaughter came over...the voicemail was blaring as she was walking in, and of course she comes first, especially since the caller ID did not clearly identify itself. So by the time I got them inside and greeted, listened to the call, realized that oh shit i need to take care of this, called in approved the transaction, fixed her a snack, caught up on things (a 4 year old has a LOT to tell you!) then got back to the cart and tried to check out, OOPS sold out. I think it went from 11(?) to sold out in just a few hours.

I am not upset, I had my chance, I'll live. But what is REALLY odd is that a new CD record of Julian Eastman music on New Amsterdam went up yesterday, and has sold out already!

https://wildup.bandcamp.com/album/julius-eastman-vol-1-femenine

I got the email yesterday, checked it out, and figured I'd order it sometimes today. Well...there's no rush to order a DL now, is there...

In both of these cases, it'll be interesting to see what the aftermarket prices are...wonder how much, if any, of these are being quicksold by people looking to flip their purchases.

[erwbol]

14 minutes ago, JSngry said:

I had it in my cart, but for some reason the bank sent out a fraud alert on the transaction at exactly the time when my granddaughter came over...the voicemail was blaring as she was walking in, and of course she comes first, especially since the caller ID did not clearly identify itself. So by the time I got them inside and greeted, listened to the call, realized that oh shit i need to take care of this, called in approved the transaction, fixed her a snack, caught up on things (a 4 year old has a LOT to tell you!) then got back to the cart and tried to check out, OOPS sold out. I think it went from 11(?) to sold out in just a few hours.

I am not upset, I had my chance, I'll live. But what is REALLY odd is that a new CD record of Julian Eastman music on New Amsterdam went up yesterday, and has sold out already!

https://wildup.bandcamp.com/album/julius-eastman-vol-1-femenine

I got the email yesterday, checked it out, and figured I'd order it sometimes today. Well...there's no rush to order a DL now, is there...

In both of these cases, it'll be interesting to see what the aftermarket prices are...wonder how much, if any, of these are being quicksold by people looking to flip their purchases.

Food for thought. The Parker set was very popular like this new standards set.

[JSngry]

Since when did Julius Eastman get so popular? I know he's still at best a cult figure (albeit one with perhaps "renewed interest", and that it doesn't take long to sell out a really small run, but damn, less than 24 hours?

In both cases, though, decent quality DLs are avialable, and my shrinking shelf space id not mirrored by my hard drive space...but there is a loy less urgency to get a DL. It's jsut files, right? The music is one thing, the object something else. And I often like them both, for separate reasons. But hey, I can change that as/if the times deem it so.

Not paying $500 for a Braxton box set until I can afford it, and unless I, like, increase my existing assets by a factor of... 50 Bajillion or so, that's not happening.

Oh well!

 

[erwbol]

But the lowest price it sold at is €84. That should give you some hope, but the longer you wait after release, the more the price will mirror that €499.

And then there is Jazz Messengers in late August/early September.

Edited June 19, 2021 by erwbol

[JSngry]

The clear lesson here is that the limiteder the run of the physical issues get, the quicker you're gonna need to carpe diem, or else be prepared to deal with the aftermarket.

Or, uh, just switch to legit DLs. Not my first choice, but my time, my money, my choice, simple as that.

[trane123]

I first got an email from Bandcamp about this set back on May 6, so it's been around a while.

[JSngry]

18 minutes ago, rostasi said:

Also, Julius Eastman has been one of those composers who's had a very strong presence in the "new music"or "contemporary classical" or whatever it's called these days for decades - and there are, especially, young artists of all kinds who want his work, so, 24 hours?, I don't know, but within 72? Yup, fer sure!

Yeah, less than 24 hours. So...time for a comeback tour or something!

Seriously, I know his music and was looking forward to a "new version". And so now there is one. But DAMN that CD went in the blink of an eye...

[tranemonk]

10 minutes ago, trane123 said:

I first got an email from Bandcamp about this set back on May 6, so it's been around a while.

I assume you're talking about the Braxton, right? Even so, that still seems like a very quick sellout. After listening to numerous tracks I caved and got the cd set. I know it's a lot but watching those sets tick down was a good incentive to pull the trigger. 

I agree that I prefer physical cds for certain artists. 

[trane123]

Yep, this set.  As I posted earlier in the stream, I've been thinking of pre-ordering this set for about a month.  Seeing the count down of available sets finally made me pull the trigger.

[Chuck Nessa]

My collection database says I am closing in on about 200 discs.

[JSngry]

New Amsterdam has gotten my attention, yes. I always look (and often enough, buy) when I get a new release notification. Guess I'm not the only one.

I've also noticed that their CD product only sometimes turns up on Discogs. So...they seem to be finding their audience, not just with music, but with format.

https://www.discogs.com/Ashley-Bathgate-Sleeping-Giant-Ash/release/14490795

https://www.amazon.com/Ash-Ashley-Bathgate/dp/B07XKGBZZT/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=ashley+bathgate&qid=1624147534&sr=8-4

Nope. But it's a GREAT record, and we all have friends, right?

Still....NEXT time, order the damn thing as soon as the email comes, it's like a sinatra/mccartney/stones ticket or something.

[JSngry]

I have, but I don't want it all. Hate to pay less, get more, but end up not using all of it. Not something I'm into. One more way that the "digital paradigm" ends up creating mental clutter, oh I have EVERYTHING now...well, I don't WANT everything, and I sure don't NEED everything.

It's like the warehouse club thing, for some items, it makes sense,but for other things, oh wok, GREAT price on the 360-count pack of eggs, too bad they're damn near all gonna get thrown out.

And I know that eggs are not datas, but still....goes to the overall spirit of being mindful about one's consumption, in general. In the end....chicken.

[erwbol]

Y'all kept staring at that copy offered for €499, but the point is it never sold for more than €185 on Discogs.

[mjazzg]

 

11.30 for a great version of "The Creator Has a Master Plan"

[erwbol]

1 hour ago, mjazzg said:

 

11.30 for a great version of "The Creator Has a Master Plan"

I'm not a fan of Karma, The Creator Has a Master Plan in particular. I'm glad it's not on the box set. 

[erwbol]

As I first noticed when listening to the Bandcamp stream and has now been confirmed by the official FLACs, while the box set was well-recorded, the mastering is too loud. Not good imo. I'll probably be putting the still sealed physical box set up for sale on Discogs or eBay once it arrives in late August/early September. (Or here if anyone is interested.)

There was a similar issue with the third Leo Records standards box, 19 Standards (Quartet) 2003, released 2010, which was significantly louder than the first two box sets from the 2003 tour released in 2004 & 2005.

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Also, I had contact with Jazz Messengers. It is doubtful they'll be able to get the box set in stock.

"Good afternoon, 

Thanks for your message. 

Hopefully we will. I mean, we are doing everything we can to get it, but, we truly don’t know if we are going to, sorry! According to his Band Camp is already sold out, but, it might be available through any of our suppliers. 

If we have any luck bringing it, we will announce it for sure! 

All the best, 

Jorge, Jazz Messengers

Customer Service"

 

Edited June 25, 2021 by erwbol

[tranemonk]

7 hours ago, erwbol said:

As I first noticed when listening to the Bandcamp stream and has now been confirmed by the official FLACs, while the box set was well-recorded, the mastering is too loud. Not good imo. I'll probably be putting the still sealed physical box set up for sale on Discogs or eBay once it arrives in late August/early September. (Or here if anyone is interested.)

There was a similar issue with the third Leo Records standards box, 19 Standards (Quartet) 2003, released 2010, which was significantly louder than the first two box sets from the 2003 tour released in 2004 & 2005.

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Also, I had contact with Jazz Messengers. It is doubtful they'll be able to get the box set in stock.

"Good afternoon, 

Thanks for your message. 

Hopefully we will. I mean, we are doing everything we can to get it, but, we truly don’t know if we are going to, sorry! According to his Band Camp is already sold out, but, it might be available through any of our suppliers. 

If we have any luck bringing it, we will announce it for sure! 

All the best, 

Jorge, Jazz Messengers

Customer Service"

 

When you say it's too loud... what exactly do you mean? Is there distortion? Out of balance? Do you know if the 2006 Standards Brussels box is too loud? 

[erwbol]

7 minutes ago, tranemonk said:

When you say it's too loud... what exactly do you mean? Is there distortion? Out of balance? Do you know if the 2006 Standards Brussels box is too loud? 

The volume levels are too high. I can't even put the volume knob up to 9 o' clock without annoying peaks in the sound bothering me. For the Sextet (Parker) 1993 CD box set I could comfortably turn the volume up to 10 o' clock.

I don't enjoy listening at a whisper.

 

As I said, the recording itself is fine. If you didn't buy the FLACs & physical set yet, just stream for free at Bandcamp and then compare to Sextet (Parker) 1993. Bandcamp streaming volume levels are generally a good indicator of relative volume levels of the corresponding physical CDs in my experience.

 

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I believe the 2006 Brussels set was recorded before a very noisy audience, so I didn't buy it, haven't heard it. Also, it wasn't on Leo Records.

 

 

Edited June 25, 2021 by erwbol

[mjazzg]

Just dipping into this set and find it more than a little ironic that in a set of this size some of the tracks fade out

[Chuck Nessa]

My hard copy landed along with the Lee Morgan box. Much listening to do.