JSngry Posted September 18, 2022 Report Posted September 18, 2022 https://bloggingtonybennett.com/song-of-the-day-coffee-break-2/ Alos....I can't find a recording by Moody of this. So...wtf? How did THAT get HERE???? Quote
JSngry Posted September 18, 2022 Author Report Posted September 18, 2022 Date September 1, 1967 Location New York, NY Vocals Tony Bennett Musicians Conductor Marion Evans, Torrie Zito Piano John Bunch Bass Milt Hinton Drums Sol Gubin Guitar Bucky Pizzarelli Reeds Pete Fanelli, Romeo Penque, Sol Schlinger, Joe Soldo, Bobby Tricarico Trumpe tAl De Risi, Johnny Frosk, Bernie Glow, Marky Markowitz Trombone Sy Berger, Urbie Green, Dick Hixson, John Messner Harp Corky Hale Percussion Bobbie Rosengarden Violin Julius Brand, Fred Buldrini, Leo Cahn, Max Cahn, Paul Gershman, Harry Katzman, Leo Kruczek, Joe Malin, George Ockner, John Pintavalle, Max Polikoff, Matthew Raimondi, Aaron Rosand, Tosha Samoroff, Julius Schachter, Gerald Tarack Viola Al Brown, Leon Frengut, Theodore Israel, Emanuel Vardi https://discography.bloggingtonybennett.com/session/september-1-1967/ Quote
mikeweil Posted September 18, 2022 Report Posted September 18, 2022 Maybe Moody recorded it under a different tite? That happens when lyrics are written after the tune. Quote
JSngry Posted September 18, 2022 Author Report Posted September 18, 2022 Moody is the only composer listed, so he would be the lyricist on his own song. Although the lyrics do have a bit of Eddie Jefferson vibe to them, maybe. I am just wondering how this ended up on a Tony Bennett record! And check out Milt Hinton!!! Quote
mikeweil Posted September 18, 2022 Report Posted September 18, 2022 23 minutes ago, JSngry said: Although the lyrics do have a bit of Eddie Jefferson vibe to them, maybe. As close as Jefferson and Moody were, they could have "forgotten" to credit him. I'll check all of the Moody pieces I have with Jefferson singing. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted September 18, 2022 Report Posted September 18, 2022 28 minutes ago, JSngry said: I am just wondering how this ended up on a Tony Bennett record! Why? Tony was relatively plugged in for a pop-oriented jazz singer, or a jazz-oriented pop singer, depending on your politics. Quote
JSngry Posted September 18, 2022 Author Report Posted September 18, 2022 Or maybe whoever it was just didn't know by the time it came to write in down on whatever they wrote it on to get it printed on the label? This was Columbia, right? Hardly a one man shop... Bureaucracy galore! Quote
mikeweil Posted September 18, 2022 Report Posted September 18, 2022 This monumental box set, btw., seems to be the only CD issue of this album: https://www.discogs.com/release/10164486-Tony-Bennett-The-Complete-Collection Quote
JSngry Posted September 18, 2022 Author Report Posted September 18, 2022 I've been using Spotify to go back through MOR records of the late 60s/early 70s just to see what treats might be buried in there. This song was one such treat Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted September 18, 2022 Report Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) My Google-Fu isn’t coming up with anything at all for: 1) the song title as a specific string, plus 2) Moody but 3) without any mention of Bennett (and I also stripped out the title of another Moody song on some 32jazz-ish BS comp CD that has “coffee break” in the title of the CD, which includes another presumably unrelated Moody tune called “simplicity and beauty”). Searching on this provides a couple dozen hits, but none of them have anything to do with James Moody the jazz musician. Google search key: “coffee break” “james moody” -Bennett -Simplicity -Beauty Edited September 18, 2022 by Rooster_Ties Quote
mikeweil Posted September 18, 2022 Report Posted September 18, 2022 The song title seems to have been used by half a dozen jazzmen for different tunes, it seems. Quote
JSngry Posted September 18, 2022 Author Report Posted September 18, 2022 40 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said: Why? Tony was relatively plugged in for a pop-oriented jazz singer, or a jazz-oriented pop singer, depending on your politics. Not really... more like a pop singer who went slumming. At least at the time it seemed like that. Other than that, though...there was a process for getting songs placed on records like these, it's not like James Moody popped in to the Columbia studios one day and Tony said hey Moods, got anything for us today? Ya know? I can think of two people who might have been a conduit, Teo Macero or Torrie Zito. But even then, you're picking tunes for a Tony Bennett record date in 1967, what,/who the hell puts THIS in the pipeline? Or maybe Bennett heard somebody else do it, asked them to pass it along and he got Torrie Zito to do a chart and it got done? Whose tune is this Tony? James Moody. I'm delighted that whoever did it did it, but... recorded in 1967, not released until 1972... not anybody's priority, right? Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted September 18, 2022 Report Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, JSngry said: recorded in 1967, not released until 1972... not anybody's priority, right? Tony's entire discography features tunes that were used on LPs many years after they were recorded, for whatever that's worth. Quote
JSngry Posted September 18, 2022 Author Report Posted September 18, 2022 And the closer you get to either side of the turn of that decade, the truer that seems to get. It's like they were trying to empty it out so they could get him out of there. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted September 18, 2022 Report Posted September 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, JSngry said: And the closer you get to either side of the turn of that decade, the truer that seems to get. It's like they were trying to empty it out so they could get him out of there. Do you know his 1957 album The Beat of My Heart with Art Blakey, Sabu, Chico Hamilton, and Candido? The out-takes from that album sprinkled over years' worth of LPs, including the San Francisco album in the early 1960s. Quote
JSngry Posted September 19, 2022 Author Report Posted September 19, 2022 Yes and yes. But it sure seems like once Clive Davis came in that things got really weird for Bennet, like he would do one two "current" songs, and the rest of the album would be vault stuff of varying vintages. Even the record that made him vomit used a version of "Something" that had been the title cut of an album of his just a year or two earlier Pre-Davis, that record of new songs had one cut on their that SCREAM 50s Columbia, Frank DeVol and industrial reverb. I'm not in any way a "fan" of Tony Bennett overall, but on any given record...a song, a chart, and his skill set can come together quite nicely Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted September 19, 2022 Report Posted September 19, 2022 I loves me that Columbia reverb you hear on Tony, Johnny, and Eydie! Quote
gmonahan Posted September 20, 2022 Report Posted September 20, 2022 On 9/18/2022 at 1:51 PM, mikeweil said: This monumental box set, btw., seems to be the only CD issue of this album: https://www.discogs.com/release/10164486-Tony-Bennett-The-Complete-Collection Yeah, not exactly Tony's favorite album! Quote
JSngry Posted September 21, 2022 Author Report Posted September 21, 2022 Looking more deeply at that online discography/sessionography, it would be neat if somebody would reassemble all the mid 60s/early 70s records into session order. I do think that might be a more rewarding listen at this point in time. Any session where Torrie Zito did the charts is almost always going to stand out on whatever record the cut ends up on. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, JSngry said: Looking more deeply at that online discography/sessionography, it would be neat if somebody would reassemble all the mid 60s/early 70s records into session order. I do think that might be a more rewarding listen at this point in time. That went on throughout his career. A leftover from one album would show up someplace a decade later. Quote
JSngry Posted September 21, 2022 Author Report Posted September 21, 2022 Time for a Purple Chick look at it! Quote
medjuck Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 I still like his album with Basie-- especially Lost in the Stars. Quote
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