Milestones Posted January 6, 2023 Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 Does anyone else feel that Monk missed opportunities by not creating larger ensembles a bit more often? I really like the septet on Monk's Music and the mid-size group (mini orchestra?) on At Town Hall. He was so resolutely about the quartet, especially in the Columbia years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 6, 2023 Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 He did two big band records for Columbia, though. One great, one regrettable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milestones Posted January 6, 2023 Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 True, but the earlier (and much better) one was only half-big band, and I personally think the tracks could have been shorter and tighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted January 6, 2023 Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 I love the "Big Band and Quartet" material, and there is more recorded on the European tour that is excellent listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon8 Posted January 6, 2023 Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 Would have loved to hear Monk again in a quartet with vibes in the 60's (as he did with Milt J. in his first recordings). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted January 6, 2023 Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 35 minutes ago, JSngry said: He did two big band records for Columbia, though. One great, one regrettable. The "regrettable" one is my favorite. It is like a space-age bachelor pad Monk album. I delete the two Teo Macero tunes and add "Blue Monk." 3 minutes ago, Simon8 said: Would have loved to hear Monk again in a quartet with vibes in the 60's (as he did with Milt J. in his first recordings). Yes, I love this stuff. These tracks are like Monk's equivalent of the Raymond Scott Quintette 1930s recordings. They suggest a bright, shiny, mechanized future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milestones Posted January 6, 2023 Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 Yes, I too enjoy the combination of Monk and Milt Jackson. Of course, they did get together again with Miles Davis on Christmas Eve, 1954--what a session that was! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 the first person I saw quoted as saying Monk could play like Teddy Wilson was Mary Lou Williams. Not sure where I saw it, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, AllenLowe said: the first person I saw quoted as saying Monk could play like Teddy Wilson was Mary Lou Williams. Not sure where I saw it, however. When was that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 18 hours ago, JSngry said: When was that? she was referring to the Minton's days, and if I had to guess where I saw it, it might have been Hear Me Talkin' To You (which is very suspect as a source, now that I think of it). But I really am unsure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) I should mention that I never liked the Hall Overton arrangements; Overton was a great man, but those ensembles are just too dull and conventional sounding to my ears. Edited January 13, 2023 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gheorghe Posted January 14, 2023 Report Share Posted January 14, 2023 8 hours ago, AllenLowe said: I should mention that I never liked the Hall Overton arrangements; Overton was a great man, but those ensembles are just too dull and conventional sounding to my ears. I must admit I didn´t even hear "arranged" Monk. For me, Monk always was quartet with Trane, Rollins, Griffin, Rouse. I think I heard that the last CBS album of Monk also was some big band stuff that sounded quite commercial...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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