Late Posted yesterday at 11:35 PM Report Posted yesterday at 11:35 PM George Coleman: tenor saxophone Hilton Ruiz: piano Sam Jones: bass Billy Higgins: drums recorded December 29, 1978, NYC Is this Coleman's masterwork? While probably best known for his contributions to Maiden Voyage, Miles Davis records circa 1964, and the Eastern Rebellion collective, this record made for Timeless shows off Coleman's command of the horn in a way that his sideman appearances don't always do. What do you think? Quote
mhatta Posted 23 hours ago Report Posted 23 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Late said: Is this Coleman's masterwork? While probably best known for his contributions to Maiden Voyage, Miles Davis records circa 1964, and the Eastern Rebellion collective, this record made for Timeless shows off Coleman's command of the horn in a way that his sideman appearances don't always do. What do you think? I, too, consider this one of Coleman's masterpieces. Around 1978 to 1979 was Coleman's peak period, and this rhythm section was a perfect fit for him (personally, I preferred Hilton Ruiz over Harold Mabern, whom he often worked with, as I found Ruiz more modern). However, I think this unit sounds better live, so I prefer the live recording from Ronnie Scott's in London. It's a shame it's not available on CD or for digital download. Quote
JSngry Posted 19 hours ago Report Posted 19 hours ago 4 hours ago, mhatta said: I, too, consider this one of Coleman's masterpieces. Around 1978 to 1979 was Coleman's peak period, and this rhythm section was a perfect fit for him (personally, I preferred Hilton Ruiz over Harold Mabern, whom he often worked with, as I found Ruiz more modern). However, I think this unit sounds better live, so I prefer the live recording from Ronnie Scott's in London. It's a shame it's not available on CD or for digital download. Same. Although Ruiz v. Mabern is not a contest, it's just a difference Quote
sidewinder Posted 15 hours ago Report Posted 15 hours ago (edited) I saw Coleman with this group in late 79 or early 1980 at Ronnie's and they played much of the material from 'Amsterdam After Dark'. He - and the group - were phenomenal. From memory it was Herbie Lewis on bass but I did see the group with Ruiz and Higgins several times over the 79-83 period and tried to catch at least one gig during each of their 'seasons' at the club. I think Ronnie Scott Club must have had an agreement with Wim Wigt during that period. I have a copy of that Coleman at Ronnie Scotts LP on Pye somewhere in the racks. Around that time, Coleman also brought his Octet over to the club (with Idris Muhammad on drums plus Sal Nistico, Danny Moore and Mario Rivera - with Mabern on piano). Edited 15 hours ago by sidewinder Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted 11 hours ago Report Posted 11 hours ago 12 hours ago, mhatta said: I, too, consider this one of Coleman's masterpieces. Around 1978 to 1979 was Coleman's peak period, and this rhythm section was a perfect fit for him (personally, I preferred Hilton Ruiz over Harold Mabern, whom he often worked with, as I found Ruiz more modern). However, I think this unit sounds better live, so I prefer the live recording from Ronnie Scott's in London. It's a shame it's not available on CD or for digital download. While "Live" on Pye has not been reissued on CD, the Ronnie Scott's Jazz House label did release 3 additional tracks from that live date on a CD titled, "Playing Changes". Quote
Gheorghe Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago I saw George Coleman live shortly after he had recorded „Amsterdam after Dark”, but on bass was Ray Drummond instead of Sam Jones. Quote
John Tapscott Posted 52 minutes ago Report Posted 52 minutes ago 23 hours ago, Late said: George Coleman: tenor saxophone Hilton Ruiz: piano Sam Jones: bass Billy Higgins: drums recorded December 29, 1978, NYC Is this Coleman's masterwork? While probably best known for his contributions to Maiden Voyage, Miles Davis records circa 1964, and the Eastern Rebellion collective, this record made for Timeless shows off Coleman's command of the horn in a way that his sideman appearances don't always do. What do you think? Probably so, but I've never heard a recording on which he appears where his command of the horn was less than stellar. Take this set for example. George is magnificent! Quote
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