BFT 262 - Discussion Thread

[Dan Gould]

23 minutes ago, Dub Modal said:

Is track 4 an outtake from the Phil Schaap collection? By sheer coincidence I started listening to a Marsh Quartet recording there yesterday (having no idea it was Marsh on this BFT) and while there's no trumpet on the one I'm listening to, the recording itself sounds similar. 

Not sure why it would be an "outtake" but DING DING.

[Dub Modal]

1 minute ago, Dan Gould said:

Not sure why it would be an "outtake" but DING DING.

Ha, my bad. Outtake is the wrong word. "Taken from" would be a better choice. 

With Willis Jackson ID'd, I found track 8. It's track 6 from this album. And you were totally correct about the B3 player. I've never heard of him. 

[Dan Gould]

4 minutes ago, Dub Modal said:

Ha, my bad. Outtake is the wrong word. "Taken from" would be a better choice. 

With Willis Jackson ID'd, I found track 8. It's track 6 from this album. And you were totally correct about the B3 player. I've never heard of him. 

You are engaged in the sleuthing.  And there aren't many Marsh recordings in the Archive so you could figure that out pretty quick.

[Dub Modal]

I like the way you set this BFT up. It helps amateurs like myself track down these songs. 

[Dub Modal]

The Marsh is from this one. Personnel includes Curtis Boyd, Steve LaSpina and Valery Ponomarev 

Per the search there were only a couple of the live sets with a trumpet player so that helped. 

[Dan Gould]

and chosen because I did not anticipate Ponomarev in the group.

[Dub Modal]

14 minutes ago, Dan Gould said:

and chosen because I did not anticipate Ponomarev in the group.

Yeah, that seems out of the ordinary. I don't know much about Ponomarev but this was between his stint with Art Blakey and his first solo record. Wonder how he connected with Marsh?

[JSngry]

Is Scott Hamilton on #1

[Dan Gould]

Nope.

[JSngry]

Is either Al OR Zoot?

[Dub Modal]

Sleuthed track 9. Just went with the very few current-day clarinetists I could think of and hit pay dirt. It's track 4 from this album. This one rewards repeated listens as well. 

[Dan Gould]

7 hours ago, JSngry said:

Is either Al OR Zoot?

Neither. I would have given partial credit on your initial comment if it was.

6 hours ago, Dub Modal said:

Sleuthed track 9. Just went with the very few current-day clarinetists I could think of and hit pay dirt. It's track 4 from this album. This one rewards repeated listens as well. 

Like the title of one of your earlier sleuthing, you are SMOKIN'!

Had it gone deeper into the month my hint was going to be "multi-instrumentalist with a connection to Allen Lowe".

[cayetano]

#1 is Totti Bergh - Plas Johnson.

 

[Dan Gould]

22 minutes ago, cayetano said:

#1 is Totti Bergh - Plas Johnson.

 

Did not anticipate that getting ID'd.

Now over to @JSngry and why he did not recognize Plas.

Edit to add: 26 days to go and only the two versions of Things Ain't remain to be ID'd?!

Edited Monday at 11:26 PM by Dan Gould

[JSngry]

I didn't recognize the tone. Simple as that,l Just relistened and still don't. Which one is he?

Who is Totti Bergh. Who is he,?

That a nice cut, whoever which one is. Speaking the language with aplomb.

[Dub Modal]

I sure as hell wasn't sleuthing that out. Well done @cayetano

[cayetano]

#6 is Harry Allen with the Bill Charlap Trio

[Dan Gould]

No offense intended @cayetano, especially since someone who can ID tunes is a welcome addition, but are you getting these thru detective work, your vast collection, or some sort of tech-assistance?

[cayetano]

A little bit of everything and some luck, but #3 I have no idea what it is.

[Dan Gould]

10 hours ago, cayetano said:

#6 is Harry Allen with the Bill Charlap Trio

Years ago, if I do recall correctly, a Harry Allen performance that owed a great deal to Stan Getz got the description of "corpse-fuckery" or something like that from @JSngry so that was going to be my hint on this one.  This one, though only got "walking in somebody's else's shoes".

[Dan Gould]

12 hours ago, JSngry said:

I didn't recognize the tone. Simple as that,l Just relistened and still don't. Which one is he?

Who is Totti Bergh. Who is he,?

That a nice cut, whoever which one is. Speaking the language with aplomb.

Bill Crow's liners say:

When (the rhythm section) go into four behind Plas's first solo chorus, a strong but unhurried swing develops.  after two deft choruses each by Plas and Totti, (the pianist) skips lightly thru choruses of his own."

Hope that helps.

13 hours ago, Dan Gould said:

 

Edit to add: 26 days to go and only the two versions of Things Ain't remain to be ID'd?!

I realize its only a partial on #5, of Frank Wess. There is a hint I could give later on that would get that one nailed down.

[cayetano]

4 hours ago, Dan Gould said:

No offense intended @cayetano, especially since someone who can ID tunes is a welcome addition, but are you getting these thru detective work, your vast collection, or some sort of tech-assistance?

And my tech-assistance are 3x 1 TB memory cards. Harry Allen was there.

[Dan Gould]

28 minutes ago, cayetano said:

And my tech-assistance are 3x 1 TB memory cards. Harry Allen was there.

That's not really tech which I meant as software/ sites like (I think) Shazam IDs tracks.

I guess a big part of narrowing it down was that it was an album of Duke songs.