JohnS Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 I've been thinking about buying this for a while. I just need a little persuading that I want this enough to click the buy now button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 I found it to be very dull. If you like Joe Pass, sure, but this was a rare Mosaic where I thought it was a bit too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pryan Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Can't comment on the set as a whole, but that FOR DJANGO Lp is da shit. Listen to the clips; it's top shelf Pass, IMO. I'm going to probably get this sometime in the new year when I have some $$$ saved up. Get it and tell me what I'm missing out on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 I'm with Stefan on this. There are some good performances on there but it's not the most exciting Mosaic that you can get. As the saying goes, a little goes a long way. I'd probably hold off until they put it which I don't think will be for several years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pryan Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 I don't understand the hesitancy. Get it now and savor the set for a lifetime. You're going to like it if you are a Pass fan. You can't not like Joe Pass, IMO. He's one of my favorites, period. Genius, beautiful, fluid, emotional solos everytime out. Don't wait, this one's a keeper, I'm sure of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Dull? I like this one. "Catch me" is a brilliant session and some of the unreleased material is 1st class (especially the March 28, 1963 & June 1, 1964 dates). "For Django" is a jazz guitar masterpiece. You need this box! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjazz Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 If you can't make up your mind, bid on the ebay set. It'll probably sell for less than the retail price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 For Django is a GREAT session. However, I felt there was a "sameness" to the music in the other sessions in the box -- rhythm, tone, etc. I fell asleep listening to this set. I like the Johnny Smith, Django, and especially Tal Farlow boxes for my guitar fixes. John, if you heard his stuff and dig it, by all means go for it. It ain't my cup of tea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Nelson Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 The box set is NOT ESSENTIAL unless you are a Joe Pass fanatic. The 'sameness' refers to his 'almost-nylon' string sound and his solo runs up the neck and nearly identical way of resolving them. You've got Joe covered if you own vinyl copies of: The Complete 'Catch Me' Sessions 1963, (LT-1053) 'For Django' 1964 (LN-10132) 'Joy Spring' 1964 (LT-1103 "Simplicity', 1967 (WPS-21865) 'Intercontinental', 1973 (MPS-20738) 'Tudo Bem', 1978 (Pablo 2310-824) I've seen him perform live twice (once in duo with Jim Hall). As I don't play guitar, I really don't have an axe to grind. And I don't need the Mosaic box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted November 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 Thanks for the input everyone. I think I'm going to pass on it. I have Catch Me and For Django on vinyl and the Joy Spring cd. I can probably do without the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 Thanks for the input everyone. I think I'm going to pass on it. I have Catch Me and For Django on vinyl and the Joy Spring cd. I can probably do without the box. Well, that's why I do not work in the Sales department!!! -_- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 One question: in the Tom Lord disco there are footnotes that Clare Fischer claimed he did not play on several sessions he is credited for - anybody knows more detailas, is this found only in the Mosaic booklet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 4 hours ago, mikeweil said: One question: in the Tom Lord disco there are footnotes that Clare Fischer claimed he did not play on several sessions he is credited for - anybody knows more detailas, is this found only in the Mosaic booklet? I have the Pass Mosaic. Here are the sessions with Clare Fischer: 1/30/63, 2/4/63, "probably February 1963," 7/18/63, 7/29/63 - all resulting in PJ ST-73, "Catch Me." I saw no mention in Kirk Silsbee's notes of Fischer not playing on several sessions he is credited for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 According to Lord, "Clare Fischer claims he was not on these titles" - he put this note below the "probably February 1963" and the February 4, 1963 sessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 3 hours ago, mikeweil said: According to Lord, "Clare Fischer claims he was not on these titles" - he put this note below the "probably February 1963" and the February 4, 1963 sessions. From Silsbee's notes: Re "Mood Indigo" (from 2/4/63): "After Fischer moves his solo into waltz time, Pass brings the tune into blues territory." Re "The Night Has A Thousand Eyes" (from "probably February 1963"): "Fisher seems to decline the solo space offered to him on TNHATE so Pass burns brightly without being flashy." Also, after the "Album Index" section in the booklet, it says "Special thanks to Les McCann, Clare Fischer, John Pisano, Russ Wapensky and the Institute of Jazz Studies." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 Strange - either someone working for Lord misread the session notes from the Mosaic booklet, or he has some other source. I trust Mosaic a bit more. Thanks for your input! I'll get me a copy, 'cause I like early Pass the best, his attack and drive, e.g. on the Groove Holmes sessions for Pacific Jazz, and I like Fischer and Les McCann, and think Pass brought an intereresting aspect to McCann's approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 And don't forget the live Joy Spring session - pretty hot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) On 2/13/2016 at 10:48 PM, mikeweil said: One question: in the Tom Lord disco there are footnotes that Clare Fischer claimed he did not play on several sessions he is credited for - anybody knows more detailas, is this found only in the Mosaic booklet? Check this link http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~ux5t-oois/records.html find Catch Me (1963) then click on Details then at very bottom of this page click on Please Check at #20-1 to get info on Mosaic set I think this is the information I gave Tom a few years back to update the Pass discography BTW what is the version of Lord you are using? Edited February 15, 2016 by romualdo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Could James Harrod add something to the discussion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesAHarrod Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) Can't add much. The AFM contract lists Fischer, and tune detail. After reducing contract jpeg size to 84kb still getting "file too large" message. Unable to attach. Jim Edited February 16, 2016 by JamesAHarrod Add contract jpeg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 4 hours ago, romualdo said: BTW what is the version of Lord you are using? I have an online subscription of the Lord Disco. Thanks for the link! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 8 hours ago, mikeweil said: I have an online subscription of the Lord Disco. Thanks for the link! I'd say Tom has indeed updated the discography from this information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 (edited) Yes, that's what I thought, too, after reading through the pages on that Joe Pass Discography site. Edited February 16, 2016 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Now that I have the Mosaic box and listened to the "Catch Me" sessions repeatedly, I can't think of any other pianist but Fischer in 1963 in California who played like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 I would buy a decently priced used CD reissue of Stones Jazz. Contrary to whatever, it does not suck, at least not all of it! Hello, Bill Perkins, how goes it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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