Christiern Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 Right, again, Mike. There was a time when Columbia issued esoteric releases (especially under Lieberson); no one thought for a minute that they would sell enough copies to absorb the cost, but it didn't matter, because such sets lent prestige to the label, just as classical music did. BTW it was suggested to Columbia that they sign Duke Ellington to a contract that would allow him to record his extended works whenever he felt a need to, or simply to give him a guaranteed outlet. It would be a retainer of sorts, designed to encourage/subsidize a major composer and preserve important music for prestige rather than profit. Columbia's policy of recording dead composers for prestige was cited as an inspiration. The suggestion was turned down. I recall several Columbia sets, like Eleanor Roosevelt's reminiscences on "My Husband and I"; an elaborate boxed release focused on the Wild West, with a great booklet; and there was one that featured readings of the Bill of Rights by James Earl Jones, Orson Wells, and others. These were prestige items. Now it's all "product" and the people who call the shots see only the bottom line. Quote
sheldonm Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 I'm sure mrjazzman will order a cool dozen or two. ← Quote
bertrand Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 I was not a witness to the Brookmeyer fracas, but I know that I wil NEVER buy a record by Danny D'Imperio Bertrand. Quote
Aggie87 Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 I have never heard any of Deep's music, but I do recall how rudely he treated Bertrand. Quote
jazzbo Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 I agree . . . though the best stuff of Danny's I find was not commercially relesaed! (That's just my subjective opinion.) Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 Why not pass on both and try something new fer crying out loud. Jazz didn't end in the sixties, you know... ← Bingo! For instance, there's this great new CD by a certain organ trio coming out on August 8th... Quote
sheldonm Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 Why not pass on both and try something new fer crying out loud. Jazz didn't end in the sixties, you know... ← Bingo! For instance, there's this great new CD by a certain organ trio coming out on August 8th... ← Hopefully they are as good as Organissimo! Quote
bertrand Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 Forget me! It's the shit he said about Butch Warren. Bertrand. Quote
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 Oh come on! Look at all the bad stuff Chris has said about me....and I still bought his book with the 'Weizen You %$#@ !!' -- Love Chris. inscription. Quote
Christiern Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 You forgot to mention the white powder on page 287! %$#@ Jesus Powder, I calls it. BTW, did you ever read the damn thing? Quote
sheldonm Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 BTW, did you ever read the damn thing? ← Quote
Christiern Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 Thanks, Mark. Just one thing, there is no companion CD, the one containing excerpts from my Ruby interviews was just something I burned for you. Chris Quote
jazzbo Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 I was going to ask about that. . . what companion cd? I've got the original edition of the book. . . I have the Ruby interviews in the final volume of the Columbia Bessies. . . . Man what a talent that woman was! Quote
Christiern Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 Lon, that's the same disc. I do have quite a bit more of Ruby on tape--she was a remarkable person, but I guess you can hear that! Sorry to hear that you only have the original version of my book--it is a source of embarrassment to me. Quote
jazzbo Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 Well, I didn't realize THAT. I'll update at some point when my "to read" pile of books is less than four feet high! (Literally!) Quote
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted July 11, 2005 Report Posted July 11, 2005 You forgot to mention the white powder on page 287! %$#@ Jesus Powder, I calls it. BTW, did you ever read the damn thing? Yes, and listened to the interview in the car while idling away outside my kids school. Think I even saved that oversize address label/bookplate of Lil in Chicago. That's where the powder was. Quote
paul secor Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 Brookmeyer himself, apparently (see the opening note...). ← AND some of us who bought the damn thing 40 years ago. Better they reissue Red Allen. ← I bought Red Allen's Columbia release 40 years ago - still have it - but it would be a good thing if Columbia would reissue it so others could hear it. Perhaps if the Brookmeyer sells enough, Bob Belden can work on getting that reissued - hard to imagine it selling 800 copies, but stranger things have probably happened. Quote
sheldonm Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 Thanks, Mark. Just one thing, there is no companion CD, the one containing excerpts from my Ruby interviews was just something I burned for you. Chris ← Sorry about the confusion ....I didn't really mean companion as much as a cd that gave a lot of insight to Bessie and your book. Mark Quote
BruceH Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 Yeah! Let's show them what assholes they are by putting more money in their pockets! Seriously, I'm game. I dig Brookmeyer and I'd buy this to prove that "the suits" are wrong about jazz. After all the money they've made on their jazz catalog over the years. it's scary that they STILL think this way. What other recordings from the 1920s still contribute to the corporate coffers the way Armstrong's do? It's guaranteed that the big sellers of those days are dead in the water today. But record companies think horizontally, and jazz sells vertically. ← The only way to change "the suits" minds about jazz is to smack them over the head with a tire iron and dump the bodies in a ditch. (Warning: won't do much for jazz.) Quote
medjuck Posted July 13, 2005 Report Posted July 13, 2005 Then they suggested that the tracks be offered online. But they have no online business. ← Well they do offer music on the iTunes music store. You can gedt the new release of the Miles Round Midnight there and cherry-pick some (but not all) of the additional material. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted September 8, 2021 Report Posted September 8, 2021 I have had Bob Brookmeyer and Friends on vinyl (mono) for a long time, and a few years back found the CD for very cheap. The stereo separation on the CD is severe. (Having subwoofers helps with this slightly; at least they help to center the bass.) While the album is nothing spectacular, it has a relaxed, rainy Sunday kind of feel to it. Quote
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