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Mosaic Q: why no complete Capitol Jackie Gleason set

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i know i know i know its a little outside of mosaics general perameters/territory but if they did they bobby hackett set surely you would of thunk they'd do the gleason.

only a few select of this lps have ever been on cd and the entire collection is one of the last missing great boxed sets yet to be put on the market, etc

this would prob. be one of their larger sets i dunno 12 cds, maybe a few more

i dont need the set cause i have mono and stereo copies of all of them (even the late-period one from '69 w/ sitars n shit and they play 'hey jude')

but for those who would like the music on cd boxed set format the boxed set would really fill in a gap

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Sounds like a project for either Bear Family or Collectables, to go from one end of the quality spectrum to the other.

There's a Gleason album with sitars? Wow...

Just what was Gleason's role in all these things anyway? I doubt he arranged. Did he even show up for the dates, or what?

I've heard that there's one that features Lawrence Brown. That would be something to hear.

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I've heard that there's one that features Lawrence Brown. That would be something to hear.

That's 'Lazy Lively Love'. Not only there is Lawrence Brown, but also Buck Clayton, Ruby Braff, Buster Bailey, Claude Hopkins and others!

Very nice easy listening jazz with plenty of solo spaces.

George Williams did the arrangements.

A Jackie Gleason Select would not be a bad idea!

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jackie gleason was a musical genius. he was like the arranger, behind the arranger: he would be at all the sessions and would be involved with every aspect of the music. he could not read or write music. but he would hum to the arranger, or play even simple melodies on the piano, and the arranger would base the arrengements off of jackies suggestions. he also worked from a technical point of view and pioneered the use of stereo sound when he set up two sepearate orchestras for each channel. the one w/ sitar is called the "now sound" or something like that and its not the best one but its okay. after about 1965 you can see the quality of the capitol records start to decline as they put more money into the beatles. jackie even made a really obscure one w/ him singing and reciting words over the music but that ones one of the obscure later ones.

some of the best ones include

lonsome echo- where jackie set up an orchestra of mandolins, and got Dali for the artwork

THE TORCH WITH THE BLUE FLAME- his best record

"OOOOOO!" strings + wordless choir

"Afrodesia" - w/ wild bill davis on organ-- very subdued- different than his usual!

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"Afrodesia" - w/ wild bill davis on organ-- very subdued- different than his usual!

Blige me Chewy - I didn't know about that!

MG

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One of my alltime favorite Organissimo exchanges--posts #5 and #6 in this thread. :lol: I've got it taped up on the LP shelf beside my cubicle.

Chewy, if JG did indeed record 40 Capitol LPs, I doubt that even Bear Family would go near it as a "complete" set. How many are Hackett on? Even if you broke it out in such a manner--"Complete JG w/Bobby Hackett" or some such--I can't really see Mosaic taking it on. I have a two-CD "best of" JG that I picked up used a few years ago, but in terms of marketing, it would be a tough sell; too much of the orignal audience has died off, and the lounge/exotica fad has definitely seen its high point (not to say it won't come round again, but...)

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Lawrence Brown is also on Jackie Gleason's 'Opiate d'Amour'. Much less interesting than 'Lazy Lively Love'.

More romantic, less jazzy.

Besides Brown, other musicians include Andy Fitzgerald, Romeo Penque (on 'oboe d'amour'!), Bernie Leighton and Al Caiola.

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Capitol's Ultra Lounge series of a few years back did a nice 2 disc set of Gleason's stuff. Sounded good to me. I guess it fits more into the mood music slot than it does "jazz" -- but there was definitely something unique going on and highly professional. It held up and did it's own thing ... while flirting with but never collapsing into total kitsch. Not easy to do.

I knew immediately that it wasn't just schmaltz, which much of the Ultra lounge stuff was (though still a guilty pleasure of mine. :blush: )

I doubt Mosaic would do a Gleason set though.

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Hey, and he used Milt Hinton. Played Branch Rickey to Hinton's Jackie Robinson.

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Bump.

Jackie Gleason's 1956 Christmas album must be heard to be believed.  Have you ever heard "Jingle Bells" done as a dirge?

 

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On ‎4‎/‎15‎/‎2007 at 3:46 AM, JSngry said:

I've heard that there's one that features Lawrence Brown. That would be something to hear.

 

On ‎4‎/‎15‎/‎2007 at 7:06 AM, chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez said:

THE TORCH WITH THE BLUE FLAME- his best record

Yeah, that's the one with Lawrence Brown. Finally got around to hearing it earlier this year. Glad I heard it.

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just very recently i pared down the Gleason further but kept any and all 10" releases, a w/ bobby hackett aut leaves 45-only ep release, hey- dont overlook his LAST lp--- wayyyyyyyyyy better than his 3nd to last- its a legit '70mood music transitioning into beautiful music which would eventually transition into what we now know as......... "easy listening"!

 

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kept of course most of the classic 12"'s--     hey heres one of the  mid-later ones i keep- an underrated Charlie Ventura one---- hes featured a lot on this---

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Also our dawg Jackie is one of the only confirmed private citizens- to have been read in with hard proof to real history of this country and planet------ Nixon, love him or hate him, one interesting thing about him is he bragged to his friends about space, more than probably every other president.  In 1973 Nixon escorted Jackie off the books to see the some preserved grey alien bodies.  Jackie knew what the hell was goin on in this country and planet!  

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4 hours ago, JSngry said:

 

Yeah, that's the one with Lawrence Brown. Finally got around to hearing it earlier this year. Glad I heard it.

oh thats great my guy!

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There was this one:

 

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