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That just makes me so glad we have a different gun ownership culture here. If there is some kind of societal breakdown, God forbid, at least we won't be shooting each other or the whoever's trying to restore order at the time.

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5 minutes ago, mjazzg said:

That just makes me so glad we have a different gun ownership culture here. If there is some kind of societal breakdown, God forbid, at least we won't be shooting each other or the whoever's trying to restore order at the time.

Don't worry - we have yo beat on "thoughts and prayers".

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4 hours ago, felser said:

Yes it is.  I am sitting here with tears running down my face.  As flawed as we are, we have been gifted with an amazing spirit within and among us as a people.  Thanks so much. 

Don’t cry. 
Can you take walks? We’ve been doing it almost every day. The spring is here, and it’s beautiful.

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1 hour ago, Dmitry said:

Don’t cry. 
Can you take walks? We’ve been doing it almost every day. The spring is here, and it’s beautiful.

Yes, I get out almost every day for a walk or two, weather permitting, thanks.  Brings some sanity and is the only face to face (from a safe distance) contact I have with people outside our family.   

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The last couple of days have sucked weather wise for walks.  Looks like it will have to wait until Wednesday. 

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8 hours ago, ghost of miles said:

This is beautiful.  "There are more things to admire in men than to despise."--Albert Camus, The Plague

 

Seems kinda emo to me.

Then again, I'm not moved by that kind of thing under normal conditions either.

So I know, fuck me, I'm an asshole.

BUT - this is beautiful no matter what the conditions:

That's what records are for, so dead people can still speak their truth in ways we can all understand, at any time. Having a shitty day? Still beautiful. Having a great day? Still beautiful. About to breathe your last breath" Still beautiful (I would hope?), about to take your next breath with no worries about taking the next one? Still beautiful.

Fully expressed sexual maturity is more beautiful than death-y fretfulness. Always.

Here's beautiful too!

 

The sound of Duke Ellington saying the words "Johnny Hodges" - and anything that is precipitating those words - will always be beautiful.

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Oh, I see now, they're from Italy, a kids group. Ok, then.

Still too emo for me, but I get it better now.

But jeezus, get a better song, kids.

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Posted (edited)

Dude, you're preaching to a longtime DKE believer.  But that video of the kids in Rome virtually appearing and coming together onscreen, each in their personal space that's temporarily become a cell of sorts, to sing that song really hit home for whatever reason. A reminder of what we can spiritually be, even if day-to-day life doesn't provide very often for the circumstances.  To summon that feeling in this particular moment is solace for the heart. A number of friends I've shared it with have had similar reactions.  But everybody finds beauty in their own way!  Thank God we're not all singing the same song every day! ;)

Edited by ghost of miles

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This too shall pass. Hopefully they all live long enough and healthily enough to get a better song.

17 minutes ago, ghost of miles said:

...that video of the kids in Rome virtually appearing and coming together onscreen, each in their personal space that's temporarily become a cell of sorts, to sing that song really hit home for whatever reason.

The "whatever reason" is the immediate circumstance, I'd say, nothing more. I mean, I get it, but life is tragic in all kinds of ways, all kinds of times. That's no excuse for a not good song, no matter how it's done, or by who.

I'm too old for that kind of thing. Fuck me, I'm an asshole. Or not. Just don't ask me to be "moved" by that. That's like that guy who sent out a lead sheet of some really bullshit reductotrane cretinous "jazz" song he wrote after Trayvon got killed, sent it to everybody on his social media group and encouraged EVERYBODY to play it on the bandstand THAT NIGHT and call for justice. Well, ok, I guess, I wasn't on that list, but a guy I was gigging with that night was, and sure enough, out comes the chart, and we get a couple choruses in and I just gotta stop and say, hey, this tune is BULLSHIT. The situation is NOT. This is an insult to the gravity of what has happened here, no wonder no progress ever gets made, it's a constant battle between trifling cretins, HOW DARE YOU ask me to play this and advocate in its name. So the guy stops and thinks about it and says, yeah, you're right, this song sucks, and then he called something else that still sucked. But at least it was a love song or a dedication to a family member or some shit like that. Something appropriate for the time and the place of the gig, something that could withstand the scrutiny of the non-discerning.

Just saying, I get it, this is a tough time all over, and young people in Italy...I can't imagine. Seriously, I can't imagine.

Still - life goes on, so get a better song. The long haul will thank you.

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Me, I've always liked "Helplessly Hoping".

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2 hours ago, JSngry said:

. Fuck me, I'm an asshole.

You got that part right. 

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I know. I get most things right! :g

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31 minutes ago, JSngry said:

I know. I get most things right! :g

I agree, but 60's rock ain't one of them!  :rolleyes:

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Posted (edited)

3 hours ago, JSngry said:

 

Now you're playing dirty, that's bad-bad, and I even hated it as a 9 year old.  There was also plenty of good-bad (or in the case of the first one, iconic-awesome-great-bad).

 

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11 hours ago, felser said:

Me, I've always liked "Helplessly Hoping".

It’s a good song!

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It needs bongos.

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6 minutes ago, JSngry said:

It needs bongos.

That's a great idea.  I'm sure it was done with bongos in coffee houses many times.

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12 hours ago, JSngry said:

This too shall pass. Hopefully they all live long enough and healthily enough to get a better song.

The "whatever reason" is the immediate circumstance, I'd say, nothing more. I mean, I get it, but life is tragic in all kinds of ways, all kinds of times. That's no excuse for a not good song, no matter how it's done, or by who.

I'm too old for that kind of thing. Fuck me, I'm an asshole. Or not. Just don't ask me to be "moved" by that. That's like that guy who sent out a lead sheet of some really bullshit reductotrane cretinous "jazz" song he wrote after Trayvon got killed, sent it to everybody on his social media group and encouraged EVERYBODY to play it on the bandstand THAT NIGHT and call for justice. Well, ok, I guess, I wasn't on that list, but a guy I was gigging with that night was, and sure enough, out comes the chart, and we get a couple choruses in and I just gotta stop and say, hey, this tune is BULLSHIT. The situation is NOT. This is an insult to the gravity of what has happened here, no wonder no progress ever gets made, it's a constant battle between trifling cretins, HOW DARE YOU ask me to play this and advocate in its name. So the guy stops and thinks about it and says, yeah, you're right, this song sucks, and then he called something else that still sucked. But at least it was a love song or a dedication to a family member or some shit like that. Something appropriate for the time and the place of the gig, something that could withstand the scrutiny of the non-discerning.

Just saying, I get it, this is a tough time all over, and young people in Italy...I can't imagine. Seriously, I can't imagine.

Still - life goes on, so get a better song. The long haul will thank you.

Jim, no offense, but I could care less whether the performance “moved” you or not. I think comparing a bunch of kids coming together in a virtual manner—the only way possible under current circumstances—to sing that song with that kind of feeling right now—to some dude who (sounds like, anyway) jumped on a incendiary murder to try to demand that other musicians play his half-assed work is not getting it right or justified. But *I’m* too old to spend time engaging in inane arguments that boil down to the equivalent of one man’s rapturous avant-garde ecstasy is another man’s squall from the bowels of hell. We’re all wired in ways that are at once similar and crazily disparare, so certain music resonates or vibrates in one person’s cells and leaves another thinking WTF is the big deal about that?  I mean, there’s no compulsion here to like anything. We all share things we enjoy. No way everybody’s gonna enjoy all that is shared. My gain doesn’t have to be your loss. Plenty out there for everybody to find the things that move and groove them and give a spark to the soul. I love Duke Ellington’s music and I love that virtual-choir acapella performance of “Helplessly Hoping.” The horror, the horror! 😄 

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Just now, ghost of miles said:

...I could care less whether the performance “moved” you or not.

Well, there ya' go, that's all I was saying.

Now that we've gotten the Teen Scene out of the way, let's look at the international impacts of COVID-19 on journalism: https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-press-freedom-e11cd2d3-c1c3-4b67-b985-102c882a223d.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosmediatrends&stream=top

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12 hours ago, JSngry said:

This too shall pass. Hopefully they all live long enough and healthily enough to get a better song.

The "whatever reason" is the immediate circumstance, I'd say, nothing more. I mean, I get it, but life is tragic in all kinds of ways, all kinds of times. That's no excuse for a not good song, no matter how it's done, or by who.

I'm too old for that kind of thing. Fuck me, I'm an asshole. Or not. Just don't ask me to be "moved" by that. That's like that guy who sent out a lead sheet of some really bullshit reductotrane cretinous "jazz" song he wrote after Trayvon got killed, sent it to everybody on his social media group and encouraged EVERYBODY to play it on the bandstand THAT NIGHT and call for justice. Well, ok, I guess, I wasn't on that list, but a guy I was gigging with that night was, and sure enough, out comes the chart, and we get a couple choruses in and I just gotta stop and say, hey, this tune is BULLSHIT. The situation is NOT. This is an insult to the gravity of what has happened here, no wonder no progress ever gets made, it's a constant battle between trifling cretins, HOW DARE YOU ask me to play this and advocate in its name. So the guy stops and thinks about it and says, yeah, you're right, this song sucks, and then he called something else that still sucked. But at least it was a love song or a dedication to a family member or some shit like that. Something appropriate for the time and the place of the gig, something that could withstand the scrutiny of the non-discerning.

Just saying, I get it, this is a tough time all over, and young people in Italy...I can't imagine. Seriously, I can't imagine.

Still - life goes on, so get a better song. The long haul will thank you.

Question - if the guy stapled a c-note to the Trayvon chart, would you play it? 

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CJ started a thread about this in the Live forum, but thought I’d mention it here as well. *Probably* no performances of “Helplessly Hoping”... probably. :g

Live From Our Living Rooms April 1-7

Chick Corea, Christian McBride, Bill Frisell, and others.  Any money raised will go to help NYC-area musicians affected by the pandemic.

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15 minutes ago, Dmitry said:

Question - if the guy stapled a c-note to the Trayvon chart, would you play it? 

No.

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