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Are Jazz CDs making a comeback?
Stompin at the Savoy replied to Stonewall15's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Interiors of cars can experience heat extremes which sort of increase entropy with regard to plastic objects. -
Are Jazz CDs making a comeback?
Big Beat Steve replied to Stonewall15's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Getting back to the problem of MUSIC CDs that have become (almost) unplayable due to background noise and distortion: If I had to figure out an IMAGE of what I guess the damage to the sonic reprodcution of those "unplayable" CDs is like it would be close to the image above. Like I said earlier, the distortion is hard to describe, it is a more or less crunching distortion that does seem to be linked to the actual music. I.e. the distortion patterns follow those of the music (that you still can hear, but in a bad way). And the strange thing is that while I do have the distinct impression that the dud CD-Rs from that recent haul I made were corrupted by problems with the glued-on label that had become detached partially and caused imbalance, the distorted noise that overlays the music sounds very much like that on CD-Rs I burnt (or had received) many years ago and assumed they had failed due to age. But these CDs never had any glued-on labels that may have become detached and cause imbalance. Just to check I went outside to my car and retrieved one of these "failing" CD-Rs. I had burnt it a good 20 years ago, found it had started to show increasing distortion (on the last few tracks) about 10 years ago, bought a new "real" CD of it for my collection and relegated the CD-R (that I'd figured was on its way out) to a corner in my car glove box so I'd be able to listen to what remained listenable on it (it's goodtime music that you can enjoy while driving for as long as the sound is OK). I had not listened to it in years, though, but spun it again now and to my amazement found that the distortion still is as it was back then: degradation starts at track 23 out of 27, increases and tracks 26 and 27 are virtually unlistenable. But no further deterioration during those pas 10 years! Odd ... But what I think I've learnt from the above discussion here is that those dud CD-Rs that arbitrarily jump, splutter and skip and then resume and/or stop altogether and on next try might not start up again at all (at least not on every CD player) are likely to be afflicted by a different kind of deterioration of the data. Isn't it? -
Are Jazz CDs making a comeback?
Stompin at the Savoy replied to Stonewall15's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Oh sorry I guess I gave the wrong impression. He was not intentionally breaking stuff. Kids just naturally have a way of finding out the weak points of stuff. I was pretty similar as a boy. Luckily I was in my forties when I had him 30 years ago and was mellow and forgiving when he broke stuff. Shit happens! -
Jonathan Blake “Gone but Note Forgotten” Criss Cross cd An exciting session with both Chris Potter and Mark Turner 235×235 17.7 KB
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Wow. I didn't know this, but why would anyone go out of their way to deliberately mess with CDs? I mean, my kids would just go the good ole' fashioned way and spill milk on my CDs and laugh, as I cried; but this thinking I don't get, like why this: "When he was small my kid was pretty good at finding the weak spots in things. He showed me that it is easy to completely wreck a cd by not putting it far enough onto the spindle and then shoving the cd tray into a pc. Another time he pulled a cd up off the spindle of a laptop when the cd tray/drawer was not all the way out - bent it seriously. If I remember right it didn't snap but was totally unusable." Wha? That's like fucking around with my car, so it doesn't start. First things first, I'd say (just me), "Stop touching my shit!" Just saying. Question further begs, why? How come? What enjoyment comes out of this? Fucking with the integrity of enjoying a CD eludes me. For example, if I (stupidly) left a CD nearby my daughters, I was playing roulette; anything near them (because they were sloppy) was at my own risk. Frankly, my kids were just slops, like, "sorry dad" as they spill milk on Dizzy's Blues In Trinity. Like, try cleaning up milk off a CD; just as wholesome as a good-ass,fun-ass, hoe-down, cleaning up broken eggs off the floor...sorry dad. That aside, like why mess with CDs otherwise? Oh yeah, keep them away from your kids.
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Are Jazz CDs making a comeback?
Stompin at the Savoy replied to Stonewall15's topic in Miscellaneous Music
CDs are pretty robust, generally, but they have some vulnerabilities. There is a directory area at the beginning of the data which if compromised with quite a small nick generally spells the end. It's pretty easy to mess up a cd by putting scratches and holes through the label side and screwing up the reflective layer. Steve has documented nasty issues with glue-on labels, above. When he was small my kid was pretty good at finding the weak spots in things. He showed me that it is easy to completely wreck a cd by not putting it far enough onto the spindle and then shoving the cd tray into a pc. Another time he pulled a cd up off the spindle of a laptop when the cd tray/drawer was not all the way out - bent it seriously. If I remember right it didn't snap but was totally unusable. As to vinyl - I grew up with it and I admit it used to sound amazing through the tube push-pull mono amp my dad assembled and the big tuned speaker enclosure he built. I particularly remember loving Jimmy Smith's The Cat on that rig. But I also remember the heartbreak of skips and scratches... -
I highly recommend checking out the collection of Byrd's early work on New World. https://newworldrecords.bandcamp.com/album/nyc-1960-1963
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Continuing a revisit of Yes material. Yes “Keys to Ascension Complete” cd 3
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The John Coltrane Reference
Ken Dryden replied to EKE BBB's topic in Jazz In Print - Periodicals, Books, Newspapers, etc...
Zev Feldman has been trying to locate a tape of the Monterey Jazz Festival gig featuring John Coltrane with both Eric Dolphy and Wes Montgomery, but he has been unsuccessful. It is possible that the tape never existed at all, or it was misfiled, lost or stolen. There was also a gig within the time period at a club in Oakland, though no tape is known. -
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Bob Wilber and the Tuxedo Big Band “More Never Recorded Arrangements For Benny Goodman, Volume Two” Arbors cd
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What Classical Music Are You Listening To?
Referentzhunter replied to StarThrower's topic in Classical Discussion
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an old favorite, they wanted to create a perfect record. The transition from side A to Side b is otherworldy.
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Completely my opinion: CDs versus vinyl: I posted I played an Oscar Peterson, Time After Time CD I "inhereted" in "what are you listening to NOW" thread and this CD is an absolute mess, like someone drove over it, or tied it on the back of their back bumper along with any other empty soup cans and used shoes after getting married (like what other annoying noise can we add to attach to the back bumper to already add to the rattling on the back bumper, to tell everybody we're hitched? You have any so-so Oscar Peterson Pablo CDs honey? In fact, I do!!! Time After Time! I'll tie it to the back bumper right now, along with the empty soup cans and nasty shoes!) Whatever the case, I washed it and played it, and it played perfectly fine; I couldn't believe it! Now tell me this would be the same case listening to a scratched up/looking like a shitty piece of vinyl after driving over it with your car. First, that record ain't worth shit; secondly, even if the sleeve is salvageable, maybe worth a ham at most. Moral of the story: it all depends on how you take of your stuff. CDs seem to have more give. You can drive over CDs with your car, yet they still play; one scratch on a slab of vinyl, it's ruined. Botton line: In my opinion, I think this vinyl-revival is a quick, market to dum dums, make a quick buck, stupid-ass fad, which young dum dums are titillated by, until their scatter brains run their ADD course very quickly, and on to whatever else. I'm in no rush converting any format to anything else.
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COLD morning again.. I slept well but woke up at 5 and that was IT. Finally opened this new Lateef release and it sure sounds great! Yusef Lateef “Golden Flower, Live in Sweden” Elemental Music 2 cd set, disc 1 800×800 113 KB For some reason it made me think of my first exposure to Lateef. Early on in my discovery of jazz I bought a Charlie Parker record on Charlie Parker Records that when I spun it was NOT Charlie Parker though that was what all the labeling said. It took me a while to discover it was a mis-labeled Yusef Lateef record!
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Hampton Hawes: "Blues For Bud".
Big Beat Steve replied to Cliff Englewood's topic in Recommendations
I've owned Xanadu 104 ("The East-West Controversy" that features this Vantage session) for a long, long time and like it a lot. -
The John Coltrane Reference
mhatta replied to EKE BBB's topic in Jazz In Print - Periodicals, Books, Newspapers, etc...
I've heard rumors about a live recording of the Coltrane group featuring Wes Montgomery (at the Newport Jazz Festival?), but it might just be a rumor. But since there was even a live recording of Giant Steps (awful sound though), it might surface eventually. Wes had pieces like “Impressions” in his repertoire, so I imagine he would have fit right in. -
"Blues For Bud" was the first Hampton Hawes album I fell in love with. I still particularly love the opening track, “Blues Enough,” and I think it influenced my own piano playing. "Hamp's Piano" on MPS is also good. The duo with Charlie Haden is also moving. Young Hawes was incredible, too. The Contemporary trio recordings are sound, but you SHOULD listen to his early Vantage recordings! It's really The Amazing Hampton Hawes. Hampton Hawes was stationed in Japan after the WW2 (later he was arrested for drugs and deported). Almost all of Japan's pioneering modern jazz pianists, including Toshiko Akiyoshi, were influenced by him (even Yosuke Yamashita could play almost exactly like Hawes). I'm not sure if it's his sense of rhythm or his phrasing, but I think his style was particularly accessible to Japanese listeners. Given how much technique Hawes had, I was disappointed he had not recorded a solo piano album, but it turns out he did! Apparently, he recorded it when he was pardoned and returned to Japan. I hope it gets released on CD or streaming.
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This album is sick! By some remote happenstance, this was at a remote used CD shop in the most remote location, and I couldn't believe it, sitting there, for what look like years. This is DEEP GROOVE
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Right? More stories please! 👍Grew up listening to this record, one of my mom's favorites. +2. Was just playing: Oh yeah. For such a rush to end his Prestige contract, resulted in some of my favorite Miles records.
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Brad Mehldau - After Bach II (Nonesuch)
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