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I agree. Wondering aloud: So when does a group potentially become an "orchestra"? With twelve players? Fourteen? Ten?

Agree! Obviously it was a bit common during the Norman Granz times. Have several Verve LPs consisting of a small groups (combo) but have 'orchestra' in the title. Here is an example:

More James Williams:

The James Williams Trio - The Arioso Touch (Concord, 1982) with Buster Williams and Billy Higgins

Tony is very present. He's never not!

The other day, there was a contestant on The Price Is Right named Ella Speed. I wonder what was up with that She didn't win anything either Ella Speed.

Dave Douglas: Alloy

My „other“ thread of jazz books for sale (last updated in this “Offering and Looking for” section on 14 Seotember) has become a bit unwieldy to update and keep it easy for readers to follow, so I decided to start a new one. So here goes … Below is a list of the (duplicate and surplus) jazz books I have for sale now. All with English text unless indicated otherwise. All books are in very good condition (defects, traces of wear are indicated as applicable). 1) “Jazz optisch”, edited by J.E. Berendt (Nymphenburger, Munich, 1954) – the first German “jazz picture book” (original printing, not the smaller-sized "Fan Edition"). 72 pages, no dust jacket, some small pen markings inside, otherwise very clean condition. - 7 EUR 2) “That’s Jazz – Der Sound des 20. Jahrhunderts“, 700-page catalog (covering every aspect of the history and recent situation of jazz) to accompany the jazz exhibition held in Darmstadt in 1988, German text, very good condition. - 5 EUR 3) “Photo-Story des Jazz”, J.E. Berendt (Krüger, Frankfurt, 1978), 360 pages, German text. - 8 EUR 4) "Jazz Hot – Un Demi-Siècle de Jazz", photo album released on the occasion of the 50th anniversary of Jazz Hot (1987 – second printing 1989), French text, 110 pages. - 9 EUR 5) “Nights in Birdland – Jazz Photographs 1954 to 1960”, photographs by Carole Reiff (Hannibal, Vienna, 1988), 128 pages, German text, othe4iwese contents identical to English edition. - 8 EUR 6) “Jazz West Coast – Artwork of Pacific Jazz Records”, by William Claxton and Hitoshi Namekata (Bijutsu, Japan, 1992). - 25 EUR 7) “California Cool – West Coast Cover Art”, G. Marsh / G.Callingham (Editon Olms, Zürich, 1992 – the edition with multiple exposures of Jack Sheldon o the cover), 112 pages. – 20 EUR 8 ) “New Hot Discography” by Charles Delaunay (Criterion 1948, 4th printing 1966), pen annotations inside. - 10 EUR 9) “Chet Baker In Concert”, documentation of a concert of the Chet Baker Trio tour in October 1985 (Nieswand, 1989), 64 pages, German text. - 9 EUR 10) “Bing – Just For The Record – The Complete Encyclopedia of Commercial Recordings 1926-1977” of Bing Crosby, by Bert Bishop and John Bassett, (Crosby Circle, 1980), 122 pages. - 4 EUR 11) “Sinatra – The Man and His Music – The Recording Artistry of Francis Albert Sinatra 1939-1992”, by Ed O’Brien and Scott P. Sayers, Jr. (1992), 303 pages. - 10 EUR 12) “Profoundly Blue – A Bio-Discographical Scrapbook on Edmond Hall”, by Manfred Selchow, self-published (1988), dust jacket has some wrinkles, 640 pages. - 35 EUR 13) “Edmond Hall – A Discography”, by Manfred Selchow and Karsten Lohmann, self-published (1981), 162 pages, pen annotations (additions to discographical entries) inside. - 10 EUR 14) “Diary of Jazz – A Perpetual Calendar” with 12 interviews by Karl Lippegaus (Nieswand, 1996), some pen annotations inside. - 7 EUR Still available from my earlier thread are: 15) Keepnews/Grauer,”Pictorial History of Jazz”, (Spring Books (UK), revised edition 1966). Dust jacket is tatty round the edges and torn in places but inside of book is in solid, good condition, spine is tight. - 12 EUR 16) Leonard Feather, “The Encyclopedia of Jazz”, 1980s DaCapo paperback reprint republication of the original 1960 “New Encyclopedia of Jazz”. Good condition, some insignificant creases in spine. – 15 EUR 17) “Down Beat Record Reviews” Vol. III (reviews published in DB in 1958) – 20 EUR Front cover slightly faded, spine faded, rear cover and final 2 pages were missing but have been replaced with clean photocopies, inside in good condition, very minor browning. 18 ) “Jazz in Deutschland” by Horst H. Lange, Berlin 1966 (original edition) German-language book on the history of jazz in Germany up to the early 60s. Excellent condition. Some light pencil annotations inside that can be erased easily. – 10 EUR 19) “Jazz in Österreich 1920-1960” by Klaus Schulz (Vienna 2003), German-language pictorial history of jazz in Austria, book in as-new condition, enclosed CD with an overview of Austrian jazz from that period is present. - 6 EUR 20 ) Metronome Jazz Yearbooks 1954, 1957 and 1958, minor wear to the edges of the covers, otherwise VGC. 18 EUR each 21) Big Book of Swing (Ed. Bill Treadwell), biographies (geared primarily to fans) of whoever was considered “hot” in jazz/swing in 1945, published by Cambridge House in 1945, 134 pages, close to as-new condition, 18 EUR (I do realize that shipping costs would make items 20 and 21 primarily of interest to domestic buyers.) 22) “Blues Records 1943-1966”, Mike Leadbitter/Neil Slaven, 1st edition 1968 (Oak Publications, paperback), slight edge wear to spine and page margins from leafing through but overall good condition. - 17 EUR Am open to negotiating a certain discount for purchases of multiple items. Payment: Bank transfer for buyers within Germany, EU bank transfer or Paypal “friends and family” for EU buyers. Shipping: Basically I would be prepared to ship anywhere at cost, but reasonably speaking, the actual shipping costs (via DHL) will probably limit this to destinations in Germany or within the EU. Costs: Destinations within Germany,: Letter up to 500 g = 1.80 EUR, up to 1000 g = 2.90 EUR Small parcel up to 2 kg = 5 EUr, parcel up to 5 kg = 7.50 EUR Destinations within the EU: Letter up to 500 g = 3.30 EUR, up to 1000 g = 6.50 EUR Small parcel up to 2 kg = 11 EUR, parcel up to 5 kg = 20 EUR Thanks for looking!

Tom Skinner, Kaleidoscopic Visions (International Anthem)

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Prompted by an Ethan Iverson "Transitional Technology" post: Yeah. It's probably my fave too.

Colm Toibin: Long Island

Some more MPS titles apparently never issued previously issue on cd will be in November: Jimmy Raney "Momentum". https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/CDSOL-3583 Karl Berger Woodstock Workshop Orchestra Live at Donaueschingen Festival: https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/CDSOL-3585 (check out the musicians that are part of this group!)

Thought you might find another name on further listening. The sax on 8 is George Garzone.

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I have never understood why some producers call a small band like this quintet an "orchestra". It's not an orchestra, it's a quintet.

Welcome aboard. I am trying to keep active on approving any new members as quickly as possible.

Took less than 24 hours for me to be accepted here. But I am using my real name and a personal email that matches. Thank you for accepting me @Kevin Bresnahan

It rained all day yesterday. Today, beautiful temperature and no rain. Memphis the American Bully was so happy that we took a flashlight walk and enjoyed the sounds and smells. Two deer crossed in front of us and he was so good, just sat when I told him to and took it all in. This dog surprises me with his demeanor. Got in the mail yesterday a cd that I am listening to, a sort of hard rock fusion band covering Thelonious Monk called "Brillian Coroners." A dynamic and intriguing listen.

It's not really different with the SACD or Redbook. We may be hearing the same things, and they matter more or less to one or the other.

So Pier Avenue. Musically amazing. Roy Haynes is phenomenal!!