Chuck Nessa

Reality.

At some point (earlier than most presume) it stops being a "jazz recording". Talk to me about Armstrong, Morton, Oliver, Hawk, Ellington, Bird, Trane, Ornette, (or whoever) and then talk to me about "tracking" as it is currently practiced. It may be "something" but it ain't "jazz".

I would not trust 'em. Call the DMV (or whatever it's called in NY) and ask about getting a copy of the title.

Here ya' go: -Doin' what we wanna- : Clarence Wheeler and the Enforcers : Sonny Covington (tp,cowbell,tamb) Clarence Wheeler (ts) Sonny Burke (org) George Hughes (d) Cissy Houston, Judy Clay, Jackie Verdell (background vcl-1) Chicago, November 18, 1969 18129 C.W. Atl SD1551 18130 Hey Jude - , Rhino R2-71727 (CD) 18131 Doin' what I wanna - , 5103 18132 Right on (1) - 18133 Sham time - 18134 Dream bossa nova - 18135 Miss Gee (unissued) 18136 Theme from "Electric surfboard" - 18137 Medley - Note : Rhino R2-71727 (CD) entitled "Atlantic Jazz : Best of the 60s Volume 2", rest of this CD by other artists. -The love I've been looking for- : Sonny Covington (tp,bell,tamb) Joe Newman (tp-1) Hank Crawford (as-1) Clarence Wheeler (ts) Joe Gentle (ts-1) Sonny Burke (org) Eric Gale (g) George Hughes (d) New York, December 14, 1970 20843 Mighty burner Atl SD1585 20844 Broasted of fried - 20845 We've only just begun - 20846 Buzzard's luck (unissued) 20847 The Lord's been lovin' - 20848 The heebie jeebies dance - 20849 Something - 20850 Hey Western Union man (1) - 20853 The love I've been looking for - Note : Matrices in between by other artists. -The new Chicago blues- : Sonny Covington (flhrn,tp,perc) Frank Gordon (tp) Clarence Wheeler (ts) Kenny Prince (org) Sonny Burke (org,p,el-p) Larry Frazier (g) Louis Satterfield (el-b) George Hughes, Billy James, Bill Leathers (d) Master Henry (d,perc,cga) Chicago, September 18, 1972 25335 Kuumba Atl SD1636 25336 From the bottom of the Delta (unissued) 25337 Miss Gee - Brenda Lee Eager, Miss Gee Peaches (background vcl-1) Chicago, September 19, 1972 25338 Don't go to strangers Atl SD1636 25339 The new Chicago blues - 25340 How could I let you get away (1) - Buddy Guy (g) Junior Wells (hca) added Chicago, September 20, 1972 25341 Oblighetto Atl SD1636 -Burn for Bern- : poss John Watson (tb) Clarence Wheeler (ts) Donald Burnside (org,poss el-p,p, poss arr) Steve Palmore (el-b) Penny Jeffries, Denise Jeffries, Lenny Lynn, Eddie Chappell, Billie Monday (background vcl-1) + unknown horns and string section Chicago, IL., 1980 Lady love (1) Straight Ahead unnumbered Nice n' juicy (1) - Inseparable - Clarence Wheeler (ts) John Wright (p) Jimmy Boyd (p-1) William Yancy (b) Robert Shy (d) Chicago, IL., 1980 So never leave my love Straight Ahead unnumbered Burn for Bern - Just keep right on steppin' (1,jw out) - This oughta do it (1,jw out) - Clarence Wheeler (ts) Kenny Prince (el-p) Dan Shapiro (b) Wilbur Campbell (d) Chicago, IL., 1980 Pent-up house Straight Ahead unnumbered I know/knew a bunch of the participating musicians. Very fine players. I am pretty sure Cuscuna produced the '72 Atlantic dates.

I like the sound of the Centennial box and Never No Lament is from the same masters. I agree Jack The Bear has some problems but NOT enough to keep people away. FYI, Steve Lasker (Centennial box engineer) redid Jack The Bear for the BMG "Centennial Collection" (cd/dvd combo) and it sounds dandy. I will eventually burn a new disc to replace the earlier one.

Good to know. I thought after my PM last night, I was banned. Get healthy!

Do you mean Danny Barker? IIRC, WC played his interpretation of Bunk Johnson's demonstration of Bolden.

High Noon and Ben Hur.

Has anyone mentioned Chu Berry?

Joe Gloss

I want every member who can't see this message to email me.

I will buy it. I sent a letter to Norman Granz asking him to record solo Ellington (as he did with Tatum) but since I was a nobody, he didn't respond. The one time I had Duke's ear he slyly brushed off the idea . I really don't think he understood the unique qualities of his touch and skill.

Nothing extra. FWIW the catalog number is 533 550-2.

AFAIK all their issues were licensed from Japan. They issued a Joseph Jarman date with Geri Allen as well. Too slow on the draw again.

I have it on a 1996 cd. This edition is long gone and I don't know of a more recent issue.

I don't think I know any Pete B, so forget it. HB!

I think my shorts just got tighter.

Be sure to try the "take-out". Those people are really good at that stuff.

I've got a green-label Atlantic original stereo pressing (don't anybody get all ga-ga, I found it in a dusty mom-and-pop back in the 70s). To get to the original gist of the question - did Rudy have a stereo recorder in 1956? That Tom Dowd documentary was on the Sundance channel this morning, and in it. Dowd talks about how Atlantic was recording in/with true stereo before anybody else. I find that claim hard to accept at face value, but not as a generalized statement. Is it possible that Rudy engineered this session at the Atlantic studios, perhaps to get a taste of using a stereo machine, or something like that? Purely speculation, to be sure. Also - my cover has the stereo designation seemingly stamped into the cover in yellow ink. It's obviously an Atlantic-designed logo and such, so is this the method that Atlantic used on their covers early on to designate stereo pressings? ← Rudy told me his first stereo date for BN was the Sabu date. He said he'd been experimenting with the stereo gear on other companies dates but wanted it to be "beyond experimental" before he gave it to Alfred. He said it was "usual" to try out new equipment/techniques on others before introducing them to Lion. In one of the online interviews with RVG he mentions at least one session for Atlantic when Dowd hauled new stereo gear to Hackensack and they ran parallel recordings. So - maybe the mono is Rudy and the stereo is Dowd. FWIW, all the early Atlantic stereos had the "embossed" stereo designation - some yellow, some black and I seem to remember blue, green and red too.

I come mainly for the snacks.

No mention of "expanding" the track in the cd booklet. The listed timing is 6:05 and the music actually stops at about 6:00.

Are you on your ignore list?

I hear he kicks ass on Giant Steps too. ← Talkin' 'bout Odean?

Earl Hines.