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Of course, the tune that I referenced is actually titled "Turnaround," not "The Turnaround."

I seem to remember reading that it was Tony Williams (mostly), Herbie Hancock, and Ron Carter that requested Miles pursue Sam Rivers after the split with George Coleman. Miles' first choice was Wayne Shorter, who was currently employed as director of Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers, so Miles gave into the rest of the band and hired Sam Rivers. Sam was with T-Bone Walker until July of 1964, when he joined the Miles Davis Quintet for Japan. Before joining, he had already developed an interest in the new wave, as were Tony Williams, Herbie Hancock, and Ron Carter. To a degree. I think the recordings paint a pretty accurate picture of this. When Miles Davis solos, the band plays one way. When Sam Rivers solos, the band plays all kinds of ways! Late summer, early fall, after more than two years of pursuance from Miles Davis, Wayne Shorter joined the band. John Gilmore replaced Wayne Shorter with the Jazz Messengers, and Sam Rivers went on to play with Andrew Hill. This was around the same time Tony Williams recorded Lifetime, a radically different record from anything these musicians were doing with Miles Davis' Quintet at the time. I think it was just natural progression. Sam Rivers was rapidly developing during this time, when Miles was re-focusing and trying to get THE band together. He wanted to be elsewhere, and Miles wanted Wayne Shorter, who had finally become available. With Miles, it seems there was always another story...

I love all three already mentioned. "Lonely Woman" was the first that came to mind. How about "The Turnaround!" What a killer.

I have to be honest. I don't have much interest in the songs that Elliott Smith doesn't sing on. They just don't compare. They are very average, I think.

I'm hitting on my wife with "Mike" right now. If only they had "Barry White" or "Miles Davis."

How beautiful is "Because," the Beatles' cover song? Close yourself in with some earphones and lay your head back. Elliott harmonizing with himself. Imagine he and Brian Wilson crossing paths in another dimension. Damn, and it is a b-side for god sake. He recorded so much great material, I'd love to see it released in a proper fashion. Fucking tragic. Sometimes I'm just not in the mood for anything but Elliott Smith.

Awesome movie. Everything everyone else has already said! How about the Doctor with the Grateful Dead t-shirt?! Any insight on that one?

Do you guys ever wonder what a Wayne Shorter album would have sounded like on Columbia from this period? Good lord, his playing as out of this world amazing on these Miles albums. Wouldn't that have been interesting...

What made Steve Lacy decide to come back to the States I wonder? Pete C, do you know?

Anybody check this out yet? I posted it up here because it was so different from any other Grateful Dead I had previously heard. Gotta love archive.org.

Marshall Tucker. ???

I've done pretty much everything with the iPod. No problem exercising (running) with it whatsoever. iPod is a strong buy.

I thought it was interesting as well, for what its worth, but I had no idea he was fighting a terminal illness. It makes sense in that context, that he would want to come home I suppose.

The first disc I would recommend, knowing you Dots & Loops, would be Cobra & Phases. Then I would recommend you check out the other side of Stereolab that these guys are recommending, because it is almost like looking at the same object from a different vantage point. I agree with them completely, in that the early disc are fantastic, but I really like Dots & Loops and Cobra & Phases. Sean O'Hagan and John McIntyre are a welcome addition to these albums with the string, horn, and percussion arrangements that the previous discs lack.

I would like to hear a remaster of Demon's Dance. The copy I have leaves me wondering what the music actually sounded like. Especially the title cut, which seems to be centered around that killer bass line. The CD I have is a little vague and muddied I guess. I'm not sure of audiofile terminology. Fairly early Dejohnette too!

re: Ask the Ages, do you like rock music? I'm not saying it is rock music, just that it would help to consider it, along with jazz when listening. I had just discovered Tisziji Munoz when I heard this for the first time, so the sound was familiar. Brain Fart. I was confusing one of the Marsalis brothers' trumpet playing at another concert around the same time. Of course it was Robin Eubanks' trombone playing, which will explain further why I associated the Dave Holland Quintet that night with Maceo Parker... Fred Wesley. Antonio Hart and Robin Eubanks were doing that thing, Nate Smith was playing backbeat, and Dave Holland was vamping with Steve Nelson's vibraphone comping. It was fun. Thanks for pointing out the error Lazaro.

I hear what you are saying. I read so many great reviews about this band, checked out a couple of the quintet albums, kept them for a while, and traded them in. They just didn't excite me at all, and I love vibes. I decided I'd give them another try when the usual round of applause greeted WHAT COMES AROUND. This big band recording had a lot more going for me, and I listened to it often for a while. This thread is actually calling its name tonight. I'll add to the applause for this release, though its not a quintet recording. Then I saw them live with fellow Richmonder Nate Smith in Boston this Winter. He and Steve Nelson were the highlights for me. Most of the tunes, believe it or not, reminded me of a jazz tribute to Maceo Parker. No fault of Antonio Hart, who blew some incredibly fast bop lines to introduce songs that just ended up vamping. Holland was not in phrase-building mode that night, but his time was unwavering and his hands were so precise. He was great to watch, and quite a contrast to William Parker, whom I had seen just nights before. Robin Eubanks had the crowd going with his Lee Morgan-style trumpet solos, and the ensemble playing was solid, solid, solid. It just sounded like they were covering ground that they had covered the night before. I'll see them again when they come back next year, and I'll take my wife this time. It was music that anyone could find something to enjoy. I'd recommend you check them out live, but don't force yourself into liking the discs because of everyone else's opinion.

Forgive my ignorance, but what is Bill Cosby's roll in this?

You guys are terrible.

Pick One is great because you get the Godchaux-era band, sans Donna! It actually works quite well. No offense to Donna, or Lon. She was out having a baby while Keith worked the gig with the boys! And, just Billy on drums!

Pick One is such a nice mellow show. I like that one a lot. Lon, have you tried any of the archive.org downloads?

I've been listening to Filles and Nefertiti this week. Filles is very good. I think you will find that it has a very similar aesthetic to the all-acoustic music Miles was making at this time. Miles In The Sky is not as popular with others as it is with me, for whatever reason. I like the density of the music. It should be noted that George Benson plays on the second track. I don't know of any other recordings where he plays in this style, which is non-boogaloo, not straight ahead jazz, but edgy and darker than what I have heard from him. Reminds me alot of Joe Beck on Circle In the Round. I would get both, if I were you. I have an old copy of both, so if you don't like them, I'd be happy to buy the remastered copies off of you at a fair price!

Branford plays wonderfully on "Eyes Of The World" on the Without A Net release. I'm sure everyone has heard that by now though!

Actually, Chuck, you are absolutely correct. What the world needs now is a Complete Live at the Five Spot 24 bit package. I, too, would buy that in a heartbeat. I love these discs.

This is where the ipod is so great. I've got the Art Ensemble box along with other things my wife and friends have no interest in for headphones, and I've got all of my Trojan boxsets as well for speakers when the friends are around! Its great for travelling. I'll probably load up on Atlantic stuff, and the Trojan stuff for partying, along with various jazz. Everyone knows to expect mostly jazz from me these days anyway and most everyone has kind of taken an interest in it. Not to the point where they'll be joining an internet group or anything, but...