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I thought the same thing. I love Handy, but that cut didn't have it for me. I was surprised to get as many of the sideman right as I did. I have to reiterate, I love these things!

Agreed -- thanks for including me on short notice. I'm liking these BFTs.

Parker is sort of like Andrew Cyrille -- a pretty safe bet. That said, the stuff that blows my mind is from a specific period (sort of like with Shepp). As for the other instruments, I'd only agree on the grounds that his bass work is so spectacular -- it's just a let down to hear him on something else. Though, I had the good fortune to take part in an after hours jam where he played douss'n gouni (sp?) and that was pretty awesome. Best complement I've heard is from my father, who saw THE quartet many times, and said: "Garrison had heart, but he was limited. I wish this guy had been around as part of that group." Regarding the extra track on THE OLMEC SESSIONS, the rest of the record is from the early nineties, and it's not quite up to the stuff he did late in the decade and beyond. That cut is later than the rest, and is indeed an amazing piece of music -- worth the price of the album twice over.

*He's* the one who's mentally disabled... I mean, if I can't get in there within 20 minutes, she's an "ex-"!

Jesus... somebody queue the San Diego Supercharger song so I can cleanse my palate.

How's 'bout I split the difference and do a stream *and* a download. FWIW, it wouldn't be so much of a stream, rather than a server-side player which would allow the listener to play each song just like a media player on your computer. I realize this doesn't address your issue, so I'll do a download, too.

Heck, I guess sign me up, then. I see I've got some time to get my stuff together.

I remember when Pryor hosted, he said, "This is the person... I wanted to have on the show tonight -- Gil Scott Heron." On the reruns of this episode, that segment is missing.

I'm in, but based on the early descriptions, I'm not going to do very well.

Interesting thread. I agree with most of what's been said excepting the warm reception of THE ADVENTURER. It's a very average date by Jordan standards (similar to The Pentagon -- speaking of atrocious covers). Some things I would add to check out: Benny Powell's Coast to Coast with a great version of THE HIGHEST MOUNTAIN Dick Griffin's Now Is The Time -- Jordan is featured prominently, particularly on THE QUEEN I got to see Clifford in 1992 at The Hasty Pudding Club. Clifford let me tape that show, and the band was John Hicks, Jamil Nasser and Vernell Fournier. Great night! The key with Jordan is it would be quicker to list the stuff to avoid than the stuff worth getting. Clifford is a pretty safe bet.

Thanks, shrink. I should have known the answer. I used to go to a weird titled website... can't recall it now, but they stopped updating it awhile back.

Fathead is greatly under appreciated. He *is* somewhat limited in the grand scheme, but he does what he does so damned well, who really cares? I had the good fortune to talk with him when I saw him a few years back. Exceptionally nice guy who really knows music. (Also got to chat briefly with "my guy" John Hicks that night... not as personable, but I could care less --- he's still "my guy") The first few Fathead records are all great, but strangely, his recent output is probably second among his output to that stuff. His KAREN, MY LOVE, is an anthemic ballad. We had a friend visiting the night we saw him and our friend had a choice -- stay at our house alone or pony up for a ticket. He came along, and when David played that tune, our friend -- who's more of a folker than a Jazz guy -- sat in his seat, stunned, uttering, "Wow!" A side note: Sculler's let us stay for the second set for a mere $10 each; great for us, a travesty for David. (Yoron Israel was on drums and was spectacular... forget the bassist... a white dude who was a bad-ass, but not Novesel).

Part of my wants to take Allen Lowe's stance on this... the other feels the need to mention the NFL's wanton need to kiss Peyton Manning's ass.

The example given in the post above, while my favorite Wynton record, does NOT make the case for the argument that the study is "rubbish". What that record is missing is for some abandonment of thought. I've been fortunate enough to achieve some odd state of nirvana while playing a few times (can't swear the listeners did, but I don't care, which is kind of the point). All of the sudden, there were sounds coming out of my horn that I did not realize I was capable of making. I actually wound up listening to what was being played more than playing it. It's a beautiful thing when it happens.

Damn it! Too short notice. Where'd you find that listing (north of the city, we get *nothing* in the way of listings).

I know I'm in the minority on this one, and it probably has much to do with my not being a Getz "fan" by trade. But I love Pure Getz. Seemingly, the love affair for the Getz-krishnas I know was very short with People Time, but that'd be up there for me, too.

Looks like Pete Vukovich on the Atkins diet.

I've heard this reasoning before, and here's my issue with it. In the 60's and 70's, most of the game was shown from one camera, located in left-centerfield. Now we have 35 cameras on the plate (including friggin' infrared or so it would seem). I don't think the strike zone has changed so much as has the way we watch a game. Live games don't strike me as having that different a strike zone from the one I saw as a kid. That pitch "a foot outside" is being shown in super slow motion from a camera directly above the plate. If there were a way to see that few on pitches from Don Sutton, Burt Hooton, Catfish and a host of other pitchers from the 70s, you'd find that they were getting those same calls. Good, proven pitchers get those calls (unless they're facing better, more proven hitters). The point that was being made, I believe, is that in the sixties, the top of the strike zone was still the letters, or the bottom of the armpits, and those strikes got called. That is no longer the case, and hasn't been for a long time. For a period of time, the strike zone was wider but with the use of Ques-Tec (iirc, that's the name of the system), umpires are being trained, and pretty effectively, to call pitches on the corners correctly. And let's remember too that the most egregious use of the "foot outside is a strike" zone was Eric Gregg, who was in the group of umpires who submitted their resignations as a negotiating ploy. A large number of those umpires were ultimately rehired, but Gregg never got that call (and died last year, I believe) because he was such a poor home plate umpire. Specifically, the post I quoted refers to the width of the strike zone. The biggest travesty about that Gregg game (egad he sucked) was that Livan Hernandez got those pitches and Maddux did not. That and Michael Tucker not realizing the where the wall was and losing his contacts. I'll never forget Maddux reaction as they visited him on the mound while Tucker went for another set of contacts. You could read his lips: "Motherfucker! He shoulda caught that!" That game still pisses me off.

I've heard this reasoning before, and here's my issue with it. In the 60's and 70's, most of the game was shown from one camera, located in left-centerfield. Now we have 35 cameras on the plate (including friggin' infrared or so it would seem). I don't think the strike zone has changed so much as has the way we watch a game. Live games don't strike me as having that different a strike zone from the one I saw as a kid. That pitch "a foot outside" is being shown in super slow motion from a camera directly above the plate. If there were a way to see that few on pitches from Don Sutton, Burt Hooton, Catfish and a host of other pitchers from the 70s, you'd find that they were getting those same calls. Good, proven pitchers get those calls (unless they're facing better, more proven hitters). Also, in an earlier post (page 1, I think), somebody referred to the classic Ryan shellacking of the fool who charged him. The fool in question was Robin Ventura, and he got a serious lesson in etiquette that day.

Oh, best I ever faced was Rob Boston in Little League. He was about 6' tall at the age of twelve... hit puberty at the age of three... I had a single and a sacrifice hit off him... but I soiled my jock every time he wound up.

Walter Alston felt differently. When a reported commented, tongue-in-cheek after Drysdale got shelled taking Koufax' spot on Yom Kippur, "I bet you wish Drysdale was Jewish, too." Alston replied, "Drysdale never turned down the ball."

It's not uncommon for me to have 50-60 tabs open in Firefox all the time, as well as Thunderbird and whatever other programs I happen to be using at any given moment. And this isn't on a high-horsepower box at all, but rather a 6-year-old homebuilt with an AMD Athlon XP 1700+ and 1GB RAM running Win2K. I hadn't realized Macs had gotten so anemic since the Mac IIx I owned close to 20 years ago. All kidding aside, if I ever win the lottery I'll probably get a fully-loaded Mac Pro with one of those enormous, TV-sized Apple Cinema Displays. Ever seen "Pi"? THAT is the machine I want if I win the lottery!

Walter Johnson, hands down. In the modern era, Steve Carlton gets my vote, and contemporary pitchers I go Maddux by a mile. I never saw Koufax pitch, before my time. But I saw Seaver, Ryan, Carlton, Clemens, Martinez, Maddux, and even J.R. Richard... Carlton was the tops of all of them. Pity he played on so many shit teams.

+1 on the 2GB of RAM. I've been a pro-PC, anti-Mac guy since the early 90s. A year-and-a-half ago I picked up a used G3 on the cheap when my laptop died (Acer). That lasted not quite a year and didn't work well on battery power. When comparing comparable PCs to the the Macbook, the difference in price was about $200. The dealer was willing to give me a trade value on my Mac (which was a serious plus), and the Macbook could be booted as a PC. That was the clincher. I upgraded to the 2GB of RAM, and while it pains parts of me to say so, I'll never go back. I haven't used Leopard, but I remember the nightmare of XP pre-SP1. As for the stability of XP, it's decent (for a PC), but still, if you choke it, it pukes. I've had precisely one system crash on the Mac, and it was totally my fault. I was running (no lie) 16 browser tabs, Parallels with Audition, Thunderbird, iTunes, iMovie, IM, and photoshop all at once. Yes.... I'm that much of a jackass. Anyway, it seized (duh!) and I had to reboot... perhaps if I hadn't had that 16th browser tab.... One thing I will say, if you're not concerned with color and don't need a large screen, just go with the MacBook over the MacBook pro. (about $500 difference in price)