David Ayers

thanks for posting this!!

pre-ordered fom Amazon.com, for £15.63 delivered to UK. I normally prrefer to use a smaller, independent source but couldn't find one Given the reccomendations this album's getting here, I'm happy to check it out for that price That's more like it. Click click!

So with shipping to Europe of $12 from Musicstack that's over $30. Hm.

Amen to that. Any chance of an LP?

Any extra material, I wonder. This LP is little over 30 minutes. BTW people should feel free to join in conversations on this board other than about stuff they are selling.

Every Emerson Quartet recording I've heard sounded technically perfect but cold, hard and utterly impersonal to me. They made me run in the opposite direction. I prefer them in the flesh to some more diffident quartets I have heard. But I don't often go to hear quartets.

PS Has anyone heard the recordings of Shostakovich by the Mandelring Quartet, which are due out now in a box set on SACD. Individual disks already issued? BTW don't really agree about Emersons. Their style works well in a larger performance space. Yes a bit steely I suppose, maybe not that Russian either in Prokofiev or Shostakovich. Well they are the Emerson quartet, not the Kropotkin Quartet.

I have recently been interested in the numerous quartets of Wolfgang Rihm, and the three quartets by Helmut Lachenmann. Outside the stone cold classics I am not much interested in earlier C20th also rans in this genre. So yes to Schoenberg, no to Zemlinsky. Yes to Bartok, no to Hindemith (and I like Hindemith). Odds and ends all over the place interest me but no to Bax, Bridge etc and most of Britten (extememe position I know). Etc. Yes to Debussy Ravel Janacek, I suppose, but all those works seem over familiar and somehow quite finite to me. Yes to Shostakovich but no to the Shostakovich myths! The notion of a cycle is not really applicable to those composers who write for the genre but from different parts of their development (as with Lachenmann and I suppose Rihm).

That's good because beer in Zurich is not cheap!

I'm not sure we understand your question. Just because a label no longer exists doesn't mean you can't find records it issued. Some things are very hard to find, sure, but that doesn't mean they don't exist anywhere, so how do you quantify that? Usually collectors have to wait to buy some items, even though the item might well be sitting in an archive at the LoC or BL. Those items aren't lost, just infrequently on the market. Of course many recordings never issued commercially are lost to time. Is your question about commercial reissues in digital format of material previously commercially issued on record in the pre-digital period? That sounds like a purely formal question to me, since (a) if it was commercially issued you can eventually find it (and digitise it too if that's your issue) and (2) a lot of people have done just this and there is much out there on the blogosphere. Just for fun, name any recording you like and let's see if we can source it.

Yes! I am gonna rope in my nephew, he's a bit of a muso... We'll be the ones drinking beer and falling over.

...and you thought you'd drum up trade by telling everybody where and when...?

Reuters are reporting 'core damage' at reactors 1-3. That's serious. USA Today reports concerns about chain reaction from exposed fuels at reactor 4.

Just my $0.02, but I never liked any of the early ECMs. I also don't care to listen to Bill Frisell, but that's my preference. So I'd be cautious on any of those.

Who says there won't be one? That's what we thought we were hearing before. There's a lot of the trio stuff floating around on blogs, as we previously noted, and it's fair to say that it is all much of a muchness. So it may be that project was abandoned in favor of this - or it may just be that we misinterpreted the whispers. In any case I find I am pretty much seventied out these days...

And this one is only for hard core anglophiles:

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BBC is one source for constant updates: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

I don't know where you'd begin with his sessions as leader since those as 'sideman' are really more important, but his recent ECM, Lost in a Dream, has been very well received, though perhaps for Chris Potter's contribution rather than for the drumming as such. Still, it's a nice album. Who did he appear with at the gig? (oh no, I'm doing a 'Jim')

You guys are fools! Due to the generosity of rich men escaping revolution, inheritance from unknown relatives, and lotttery wins in countries that I didn't even know existed, I am now the latest internet billionaire. Never - ever - look a gift horse in the mouth...

We are just nerdy guys obsessed with old records of music that in its time wasn't all that good and now just seems lame. And what about our other carefully cultivated tastes and sensibilities? Without supermarket jeans and a ketchup stained t-shirt you'd never get ON a board like this. And as for our shared liking for pizza - in-group or what? So yeah, we're all like hipsters, yeah. Uh, sorry should have said "Yeah, Man!". Orooney.

The guides I used at first predate the Penguin. They mainly identified key artists and their key recordings. That was a long time ago. Now, apart from occasional reference to AMG I don't use guides or reviews, though I take tips on this board. I found jazz by accident, was guided by The Wire during its first year or two, and also acquired one or two books which I'd have to look out again to tell you what they are. As I see it, you DO want to know what are the stone-cold classics by great artists that everyone kinda agrees on. You DO want to be warned off a release that is just unacceptable for technical, stylistic or other reasons (you might buy it anyway...). In between you buy up things by artists you love, and sample artists who look interesting. For that you might need discographical information and information on available releases. Whether, say, Byrd in Hand gets 3 1/2 or 4 stars from AMG or Penguin is neither here nor there. But yes, you need to know its a hard bop record and not heavy metal.

BTW currently enjoying the Victoriaville 2007 trio with Halvorson and Bynum. UK-ites might want to check HMV digital for some AB bargains, site is a mess and not kept up but pricing policy favours long tracks and box sets.

How about reprinting the book?