David Ayers

Keep 'em coming! How about the ECM It's Time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or maybe Back at the Chicken Shack? Or Basra? Get to work! PS I swear I'd buy a copy of Sammich tomorrow if I could...

Hmm. Not Haitink. Jansons too uneven. Barshai well conducted but orchestral playing not first rate. Gergiev for me is essential but you can only get a set of nos 4-9. I don't know what 10 to recommend and I am not fussed as regards versions of 2 or 3, or even 1. 12 is unnecessary, it is lousy. I'd go for the Jarvi 13 and 14 (which come as a twofer with his 15 in a set that includes text and translation) and for 11 either wait for the Mravinsky to re-emerge (poor sound) or go for the Rostropovich/LSO on LSO live which is fiiiine. Of course a *cheap* copy of Barshai or Jansons would work well as a reference and you could pursue other versions (believe me, you would) as the urge took you.

That picture is starting to get worn out. Come on SS, play it again!

I freely admit that this is a dumb idea for a thread.

Gulp.

Ok so this question is not for everyone. Time Trials are bike races that often take place *early* on a Sunday morning (at least, in this country). Last year I was using Funny Rat to get my heart going. Your man Shoji is just shocking on that one. This year so far it has been Dare Devil. For those who don't know, Dare Devil was made the day before Funny Rat, again with Hano, and with electric bass and electric guitar added. The reed sound is a bit recessed and the drums don't have as much impact as on Funny Rat. The guitar and bass don't try to take over. They get it just right. They set up the tone and motion and fill out the space with reference to electric Miles, to Soft Machine maybe and to Japanese Psychedelia, always with a sense of group function. I can't say it is musically great but somehow it is a great gig and is doing for me this year what Rat did for me last - shocking my heart into action! Now here's the thing. This makes Funny Rat and Dare Devil my favorite records. What does that mean? It seems sick and wrong. But its da troof. So: what do YOU listen to on the way to a time trial.

I got the LP new last year for £5 . It's ok but I O.D. on Ra years ago This (lest we forget, double) LP is also available in a newly pressed 180 gram vinyl version for about $20. If you got that issue for a fiver you did well I'd say the options are there! Ask me a more difficult one...

The Italian version on Universe costs maybe $10 less than the Japanese version, and the LP can be easily found for about $15.

This one seems easy to find - what are you looking for exactly? What's wrong with the one you linked to?

And they're gone. It's like feeding time for the sharks! Anyway they might get listed again at that price if they are being offloaded somewhere...

For some reason this album is going for a quid plus shipping from uk sellers: modest music, well remastered and presented

That's what I thought a few years ago, when I last used a carrier like DHL - until I got a friendly letter a few weeks later asking me to pay tax and duty. When I called them they told me they always billed people a couple of weeks after delivery, they didn't want their drivers to carry money around with them... FWIW: In the UK duty is paid if the item is valued at £18 or more. Mosaic values shipped orders at $5 per item. On a 7 CD set that is $35 and at current exchange rates that is under £18. So this is a good time for UK residents to buy 7CD Mosaics! I'd add that DHL has the only a very low administrative charge for processing the duty on those occasions when it IS payable, and I quite like the after-the-fact billing system - it means the order isn't slowed up, and the joy of its arrival is not marred by writing a cheque while someone stands over you...

Now you've done it, you've forced me to order. I sense lawsuits coming on. Mind you, on this board I think we could all sue each other.

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The music isn't so like the Parker ECM electronic efforts. Many of the sections are effectively solos for one instrument with mostly relatively spare accompaniment from some of the other instruments. A lot of thought has been given to arranging the accompaniment. These are more like mini-concertos than solos. I used the word 'insipid' which was a bit strong; but the proceedings are rather cool, and the violin, clarinet and flute solos, for example, might not please people looking for jazz. The two basses and two drummer/percussionists are used sparingly and except in the big collective improv are not really used to give proceedings the massive momentum that might be expected. In fact the drums get their own feature (track 2) but are otherwise not heavily used, and rarely to provide a beat. Anyway if you are pre-disposed to Roscoe you will certainly enjoy getting to know this. I'm trying to steer expectations not crush them!

Don't panic. Don't panic. Don't panic. Take a deep breath... OK - PANIC!

I have this CD and suspect it will prove a bit academic for most tastes. Everything is cleanly and carefully done, but just a bit insipid. This applies even to the full-on collective improvisation of track 3, which is still more like a demonstration of collective improv rather than the 'real' thing (although it is certainly LOUD and the least ECM thing I have ever heard on ECM!). The occasion of the recording was a commission of the Munich Cultural Affairs Department and a Munich university and was accompanied by lectures and seminars. This partly explains the academic nature of the music. That would be OK, but as I say on the listens I have had so far the results don't leave much behind. There isn't lots of sax soloing either so don't buy it for that. Several sections don't feature the saxes (or not prominently) but highlight other instruments in partial groupings. Ok so just a few words of caution before you rush out. If you are keen on Roscoe you'll buy it anyway! It seems Evan Parker also led an evening with this group so it may be that will also get a CD release. Steve Lake's liner notes are shorter than the website version and mainly overlap (but not 100%).

No replies! Which makes me think no-one bothers with itunes and neither should I!

I'm surprised. I think it will take a long time for this change to work its way through. I haven't seen one of the re-pressed disks, I must admit.

OK here's the thing. On UK itunes you can see the UK shop. On US itunes you can see the US shop. So I am in Verve Vault and I click on an OOP title then click through to itunes. Not available at UK itunes, it tells me, but give me option to switch through to US shop. Now I can't *use* the US shop, but I can click around and have a look. And here is what I find. OOP titles that cost about $6 in US cost $16 (£8) in UK. In part that is down to the exchange rate. But on any reckoning stuff her costs double. I'm not impressed. (Not to mention itunes is so s-l-o-w and hard to navigate).

Hey shrugs, nice to see you. I haven't been reading the board that thoroughly the last x months so I hadn't spotted you were back.

The answer *has* been covered on this board, and someone will soon wade in and give the definitive answer. For some reason I can no longer find the reissue lists which I made for my own use, but I can tell you that the first batch which shows reissues with a +1 or +2 to indicate extra tracks is the batch when the covergence of the two series begins. The original JRVG series never included extra tracks; the JRVGs taken from US RVGs did. You can work it out from here. Hopefully someone will repost the entire list (me, if I ever find it).

Don't flatter him! I told Jim about five years ago to write book and not waste it all on you guys but his preferred mode is beers-on-the-porch, or its internet equivalent... Maybe you should be his Boswell? We'd have to somewhow retrieve the entire BNBB which was lost in the sacking of Norajonestown.

Murray plays 'his' way, and pretty much once you get used to it you might get some sense of limitation. The same is true of a lot of self-taught players I suppose.

Who knew there were 17!? I've got or had quite a few. The Hill and Ming are pretty representative. Didn't go much for The Healers. There are some good octet recordings with Henry Threadgill among others, but you get less solo Murray for your money. Morning Song and Sweet Lovely also good (IIRC). Maybe that's enough?