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I must get some more of the Impulse records. I have of course the late Coltranes and the 2 Ornette Coleman, and the one Mingus "Black Saint". Of course I also have some Pharoah Sanders on Impulse, but no Shepp or Ayler. I think I got to get into that too, since Shepp I only heard from the later 70´s on when he played swing and ballads instead of Free Jazz. Is this Shepp together with Trane ? Strange I have only Garlands as a sideman on all those Prestige albums, and I think one or two under his name with name horn players like Trane or Donald Byrd or so...... I never had heard how he sound after his comeback in the late 70´s. But Philly Joe Jones means that no problem who is the others, it must be good. I´d say when I was younger and there were a lot of cheap Prestige records by european pressings, I´d buy anything thats round and has a hole in the middle, if it had Philly J.J. on drums..... It´s strange, among the jazz buffs I grew up with, but also later after starting my own musical activities, until now if there is music talk among us guys.....the name Ramsey Lewis was never ever mentioned. He seems to be unknown to us hard core fans and active musicans. When I saw him at a late 80´s Jazz Festival at Wiesen, because he was on schedule, I still had never heard his name before, couldn´t even pronounce it as non american. I said "Ram Sai Leh wiss" . Well I saw it, I thought he has a nice tehnique on piano, maybe a bit too neatly, he had a group with unknown to me electric bass with two (!!!!!?????) necks , an unknown drummer and I think another instrument, a guitar or a percussion, but somehow after some minutes I didn´t really like it. It sounded a bit pseude classical, it had a more "concertant impact" that usually a jazz quartet has. And then there was an endless bass solo by a very very frightenig and angry looking double neck bass player.....
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Sounds interesting. I have some certain pre-bop favourites, one of them is Lester, the other might be Roy Eldrigde and from piano, of course Art Tatum..... From what period is the Savoy Ballroom ? It´s live, isn´t it ? I have only one live Lester that is from the Roost I think......
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Oh what great records I have heard last days: 1) The Lee Konitz Nonet (I don´t have much Konitz, I think I have 2 albums co-led with Miles, and one with Tristano) is typical fine acoustic jazz from the late 70´s , partially using electric keyboard. Sy Johnson´s arrangements are great ! I always have the impression that Konitz had a vibratoless sound, else than Jackie McLean but also a bit sharp, maybe Konitz´ sound is a white sound, and Jackie McLean of course a black sound. 2) Tyner McLean is just one of those ideal records with favourites of mine. They all sound so great, and besides Ron Carter you have Marcus Miller on some tracks, and that´s also very fine ! 3) Maybe this was one of my favourite editions of the Jazz Messengers with Donald Harrison and Terence Blanchard. I think Donald Harrison should have been the next thing after Jackie McLean, he is great. And I love those drum intros Blakey plays here ! Anyway, the drums is my favourite instrument to look at and listen to..... I don´t have much with Joe Farrell, I saw him once in 1983 but I was a bit disappointed because it was scheduled to be Chet Bakers gig with Joe Farrell, and Chet didn´t appear, it was told he was locked in a hotel room in Roma since he had lost the key or some stupid story like there was so many. But I couldn´t watch nothin with such a personnel (Chick, Buster, Elvin) !!!!! In general if I listen to a record, I close my eyes.
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I saw him with a hearing aid in 1980, but not while playing, it was before the gig. I have heard, that he didn´t use hearing aids on stage even when he was near deaf, because when you play you perspire a lot and that causes damage to expensive hearing aids. Well I understand what Blakey was saying he "heard" from the vibrations on stage. If I go to listen to someones concert I always make sure to sit as near to the drummer as possible, and it gives me just a sensation of extreme well-feeling, if I not only hear the drum solos, but feel them in my body. Thats such a pleasant feeling. As @mikeweil said, that bad hearing may impair also certain musical abilities: Sure ! But it depends on the music you play. If I´d have a fiddle player and he goes up into hi notes, well maybe I won´t hear them. If it is more kinda chamber jazz of the more western intellectual manner (maybe ECM stuff) and things maybe without drums done in pianissimo, you won´t be able to do it with bad hearing. But the usual jazz that most people want to hear to groove, like the Jazz-Messengers was, does not need extreme good hearing......
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My hearing was a mess since I was born it seems. When I was about 8 or so, some young doctor (orelist, or how you say for ear doctor ? ) because he wanted to exame highly talented kids (me ! ) who have perfect pitch, and by examinating me he discovered that I have 20% hear loss. Then at high school there was an asshole doftor who made that test if I hear whispering which I plainly told him I wouldnt even try it because I never had understood if someone is whisperin. Then he made a lot of "tam tam" din asta and of course I didn´t pay no heed. Well at the Army, when I tried to get inapt for military service because I pretended I don´t hear well and had a certificat medical with me I was told I don´t have to worry, the trainers in the Army are yellin´ as hard that even if I´d be completly deaf I might hear it. Well, 47 years ago. Sure my hearing didn´t get better and sure I made them tests. But I never heard that playing louder is not good for fellow musicians or audience. Man, that´s jazz, and it is not "chamber jazz" like ECM music. People who want to hear some hot music, they know it is not a Mozard string quintet or what it is, it is jazz ..... Maybe, independent from Art Blakey whom I admire, but don´t have nothin common with him and he was a genius and I am a little Scheißer...., it seems that I always had thought like him, a bit stubborn, a bit "Wildfang", even before I got to know who he is...... He also didn´t wear hearin aids. As for people, I like women, but anyway the kind of women I have liked always had some deeper, smokey voices that I can hear well.....you know "femeia fatală” (fatal woman) 😄
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Then....your hearing must be much worse than mine, because if I play a gig I hear everything the drummer plays. Dusan Novakov is a great and powerful drummer, as is Mario Gonzi with whom I also had played some concerts two years ago....(you find ´em both on wikipedia). If I listen to a record, okay if it´s a live record I feel better, because those always have better drum sound. If it´s a studio record, I´d listen to it with headphones. Until now I didn´t have the impression that my weak hearing impaired my active makin´ music. I have difficulties if someone talks and there is noise from "Pressluftbohrer" or something like that, or if there is many voices, but I am not in the situation where I HAVE to hear anything that´s spoken... Last time we wrote each other you told me you got no time to listen to my album since you doin 18th century stuff, but now, would you please listen to it, it has a dream team of drums - percussion, and your opinion of the music would count for me.
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wow, had forgotten about that thread I had opened, (when ? Years ago!). I still don´t have a hearing aid though I might be among the first persons here in the forum, who would need it, if you ask a medic. They might highly recommand it to me. Still don´t have it. And as a complete dummy if it´s about electronics, apps, and stuff, I even hate cell phones that are not the old retro with buttons (old Nokia or in my case Emporia), I can´t consider it. But I hear music well enough, I mean very good if it´s played the way jazz is played, and I even asked Dusan to play Round Midnight with Sticks instead of brushes. By the way, if you play that tune a bit more bombastic, like the Dizzy Big Band, or that one trio record of Bud in Paris "Life at Café de Paris" or how it is titled, with Kenny playing sticks only, that sounds good. But I also like brush solos, if they really loud, I remember Philly J.J. or Max Roach could do that almost as loud as sticks...
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"Time Flies: The Life And Music Of Bud Powell, Part 1"
Gheorghe replied to ghost of miles's topic in Jazz Radio & Podcasts
Well thank you Mr. @AllenLowe, I was not so much aware of it. I have not listened to Bud Powell records for many years, I did when I was a teenager and remember I had such a 2 LP album titled "Best Years" and it was the greatest. It had one side from 1947, one from 1953, one from 1960 in Paris, and one from 1964 again in N.Y. The first one, well I always have a little problem if I don´t really hear what a drummer like Max Roach does, on those old records they always underrecorded.... About the ballads...... yeah but really the best ballads I heard from Bud are much later. On the second side that says is from 1953 (which by the way has a wonderful "Woody´n You" and "Bean and the Boys", the ballads on that, especially "My Devotion" I like much better than on Side A. Side C is very nice and sounds very fine, though Clarke plays only brushes, you really HEAR him and that´s best for me. On Side D I find the most lovely ballads, "Someone to watch over me", "If I´d love you" and "I remember Clifford" are superb, those chords man, it´s sooo deep that stuff ! And it has a wonderful version of "The Best thing you have is me" or how it is called. Guys tell me it´s "hard to play" but what´s hard, well it has 12 bars in the A section and 8 bars the bridge, so what ? "Conception" also has that form and you play it easily... What I try to say, I read the book of Pullman just as a guide line what really was the live of Bud about. That´s nothing you read for information, it´s what you read if you relax at the pool or before sleeping.... but special years if this was in this year or that year is not the really point for me, I just try to pick up the best from the music. I´´m not a collector but I have also stuff from let´s say 1955 1960 or 1965 and it sounds good, maybe not like the young Bud, maybe the very last records have one or two fluffs, but who cares? It all is Bud. By the way: As I get older, my hearing is not good and high frequencies don´t reach my ears, so on all those early stuff on let´s say Verve, those many tracks of some Get Happy or Tea for Two, I don´t hear that high note shit , those runs in the upper registers, but one octave more down, like let´s say the same stuff 10 or 15 years later maybe does not have that speed , but I can hear it and enjoy it..... and I like the touch of the keys from later Bud Recordings more than on the early stuff....- 15 replies
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terrible idea.....😄 If I would own an album with a butterfly on the cover, Serena would urge me to through it away. She has a fear and HATES butterflies as much as all other insects.... but Butterflies mostly.
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This is my favourite Lee Morgan album. If I might keep only one, which would be easy since I am not a collector and play more my own music, but I would keep only this one ! But what means Blue Note anniverary, is that better sound or bonus tracks ..... well I have the CD, bought it when the first bunch of BN CDs came out, I think it was pre RVG as most what I had bought.... As I got a compilation of all the Griff-Jaws stuff I never know which is which. Some of them have Monk tunes, some are live and the last ones have a completly unknown pianist called something like Fort Myers, on the others it is Junior Mance, who has a lotta technical stuff, but sometimes, especially on Monk tunes like the wonderful "Epistrophy" it´s too much, it´s like if Oscar Peterson would have had to play that tune which he sure didn´t do....
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It´s strange I never saw him live though he might have been the ideal pianist for me when I was deeply in bebop piano. But in the CV of my wonderful trumpet player who plays in my band, it reads that he had played with Barry Harris (he also had performed with Lee Konitz !) .... It´s interesting that Barry Harris plays on several BN-recordings sessions but it´s strange that Alfred Lion never let him do his own album.
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That´s the right English name for that country. I always have difficulties here with names of European countries since I use the latin language family based names for them: Polonia, Cehia, Germania, Olanda, Suedia, Finlanda, Danemarca, Lituania, Estonia, Spania, Italia, Franța, Grecia, Turcia..... and so on and so on.... I can´t say I would know them just right now in English 😀
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Glad to see you like Pharoah Sanders "Love is Us All". I love that tune and so many of Pharoah Sanders. It´s interesting that though my start to jazz was Miles and Mingus, one of my first 10 LPs was a Pharoah Sanders LP "Live at the East" and can´t explain why, but it moved me and has moved me since that time in the first half of the 70´s. Anyway, actually the most stuff I listen to is the late Trane stuff, the Sanders stuff, the Sun Ra stuff, and so on.....
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Hawk is great, he was so much ahead of his time, like contemporanious other genius musicians like Lester Young, Billie Holiday and Roy Eldrige. I don´t know much about pre-bop music, but those four are my favourites and I love him the same like all that came after..... I think I also have a Flip Phillips album from Verve recordings, but I think some of the recordings are even earlier, from the late 40´s. There might be one, that has a bop trumpetist on it (could be Howard McGhee). The first Flip Phillips I ever heard in my live is on that great little LP with Roy Eldrigde on one side and Fats Navarro on the other side "Saturday Night Jazz Session" on the french America Label. The side 1 has Roy Eldridge with Flip Phillips (Flip and Jazz is one title). Great !
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I think I have heard him on some Woody Shaw records before the time I really HEARD him (with his classic quintet with Steve Turré, Mulgrew Miller, Stafford James and Tony Reedus !). I think he sounds great. Once I had heard, that towards the end of their collaboration they had a big dispute, really a big clash that ended there collaboration. Due to the fact, that both of them were alcoolics and drug addicts or so, it´s very possible that their hassle was for non musical causes.... I was astonished to hear that he would have died in Austria, but in that Article (I could not read it because there came a "Pay Pal Button", they write that he had died in Polonia ?
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One of my favourite Donald Byrd records. That great tune in minor, it´s also on a live double CD from Half Note I think... I saw Harry Sweets Edison together with Eddie Lockjaw Davis, it was in 1978 ! But I still remember that the first tune was the bop standard "Rifftide" ! I have a 4 or 5 CDs compilation of all Griff-Davis albums, but must admit that this one I have not so often listened like the CD with the Monk tunes. I have no idea who is Lloyd Mayer´s . I just had a look at the personnel and think I had remembered him as "Fort Myers" 😄. About the music : That 2 tenor tandem was great and they played much again in the next decades, once in an all star formation with Diz and Milt Jackson. I´ve played also with 2 tenors the famous Lockjaw Davis composition loosly based on "Body and Soul" but at brisc tempo..
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who has not heard of Hans Koller ? Hard music to play, you got to read difficult sheet.....
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Maybe it is not as great as "Cool Struttin´" but it is very very good. Maybe I would not have bought it if there was not Coltrane on it. I had heard that Trane, besides "Blue Trane" was on two other BN sessions (Whims of Chambers and Sonny´s Crib).
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Bob Florence died much too early. I am a big band fan and have everything he cut on records and some unissued material he did here in Germany with the radio Frankfurt big band. He preferred to arrange longer tracks to give the artists solo space. For my taste he belongs to the top 2 or 3 West Coast big bands beside Bill Holmans orchestra and the Shorty Rogers Big Express. Can recommend also his album "Westlake" on Discovery/Trend (Albert Marx production). The Diz with the Double Six of Paris is a very nice record. It´s the big band arrangesments for the vocal quartet. Only the lyrics are stupid nonsens. Maybe this was the times when the record was made. Diz is in top form, some of Diz´s finest solos. And Bud is in top form as always if he was not forced to play trio but play together with great horn players. About Bob Florence: Well I know now why I never had heard his name: Westcoast..... that´s a complete hole in my infos about jazz or my records.....
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Ha ha ha , this might be Vlad Țepeș . Usually I don´t like "comics" but to see the one from my second home country , who seems to be most famous to the tourists..... Near my hometown Brașov in Transsilvania is the small city „Bran” where they tell you that it was the home of "Dracula", his castle. But sure it was not because Vlad Țepeș never was there. It´s told that his place was more north, at the fancy old town Sighișoara.
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Great record though the bass and drums is under recorded. Monk was so great, he could play anything and it would stil sound like if it was composed by himself. But the very very best "Monk plays Ellington" is on a video from Berlin 1969, where he plays "Sophisticated Lady", "Solitude" and "Caravan" just solo, with his fantastic left hand playing stride the way only Monk could do it. I think I have read somewhere that after that record was out, somebody asked Monk if he had been influenced by Ellington, which he sure was not. I think Monk answered "if there is an influence it´s vice versa...." Monk is so great, he was never wrong. Here this was a great pianist. He could play anything. It´s possible I heard him once with Pharoah Sanders. At least I have many albums with him as a sideman.I have heard he had died very early , but no idea what was the reason. I´ve never heard about her but she looks very very similar to Fats Navarro´s daughter ! Rena is her name or Rina.....
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I think he is on some Bird live recording "Bird is Free" and plays some very fine guitar there, but somehow guitar in vintage bop settings does not really fit in other than maybe an additional soloist. But he must have been a very technical guitarist. What label is "Dobre Records".....sounds like something from Iugoslavia or Polonia... It´s strange I have read that name sometimes here in the forum, but it is completly unknown to me. Maybe I´m not the biggest big band fan (it seems that Diz, Billie Eckstine and above all Sun Ra but also Thad Jones Mel Lewis have spoiled me on other big bands) but I never heard the name
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That means we are two ! I only have one album of "Sphere", and my fave on it is Buster Williams, who anyway is one of my favourites. Until I got the best of the Austrian bassists and drummers to play with, I still had it in my head that if I could have those "three wishes" , one might be "to have Buster Williams and Al Foster play with me"..... How is this other Sphere Album. Also Monk originals ?
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Ken Werner the pianist ? I heard him with Archie Shepp once. Very great piano player. And didn´t he perform on Fender Rhodes too. I think he was the only electric pianist, who ever played with Mingus (together with Mingus´ regular pianist Bob Neloms on acoustic piano). I think he was much more slim when I saw him in the late 70´s or early 80´s ..... who are the others ? Is this Joe Betsch on the left ?
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I read the name Bill Barron and NEVER had heard it. Had to google him. I only knew and loved Kenny Barron (didn´t know he had a brother Bill). Kenny Barron.... I had heard him with Ron Carter. Phantastic ! Jimmy Lyons is a favourite of mine too. His sound, it´s like Jackie Mac Leans case, it reminds me of gosple singer´s sound. Really deep black music history both of them. Andrew Cyrille great ! I love Cecil Taylor´s Unit Structures and El Conquistador. J.C. Moses is a wonderful drummer. He is really powerful and at home both in bop circles (he was fantastic with Bud Powell in 1964), and free forms. Ken McIntyre I heard on record if it is possible with Cecil Taylor, but I think he didn´t travel that much. Never saw him live.