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Strange, really. Well during that time I was busy learning to play bop so all I had on Steeplechase was some of the Dexter Radioland sessions, the Bud from Golden Circle and I think two from Brew Moore, who -though quite obscure- I have a weakness for him.....

thanks very interesting. Well maybe that´s the reason I have never heard about him. Those Steeplechase records might have been after I had stopped to buy records for some decades.....

Have never heard about him. But the rhythm section is interesting. For me especially J.C. Moses who was a great drummer both playin bop (excellent with Bud) and more free stuff on ESP and so, I love him but terrible how it came that he died so early for such a senseless thing (stabbed in the back with a knife, finally dying of kidney ailment). NHOP somehow I have my thing with him. He is the Oscar Peterson of the bass😨,he is ok as long as he walks with the band, but his solos have that "Peterson Feeling" for me. Funny how white jazz musicinans looked in the 60´s , much more like clerks 😄

It´s quite hard to find Dave Liebman CDs over there. I have the Drum Ode and the 1975 thing from Uncle Poe, but else I think whent out a print very early. Oh I have another one that is just Lieb, Frank Gambala and Hamid Drake, that´s great !!!! But I wanted the stuff with Ife, I mean the contemporanious Ife not the one from 1974, but found out that it is only on some electronic source, not CD, now ain´t that a shit ? And I think there was I saw that face on that forum on album covers but very very strange: The Rhythm Section are the greatest you can get, but NEVER EVER I had heard the name "Bill Buck" and I had came so much around. He looks like a "light" afro american like Jackie McLean was, but has a flatter face, a too little nose....

Well I must admit I had not heard Berg much. I hear he was with Cedar Walton that must have been in later years, than I heard them. I think Berg with Miles must have been somehow in the mid 80s when I took a chick to a Miles-Show. But I had the impressions, at least from the early 80´s on that Miles who had become more mellow and so, the guys who played with him tried to "out - Miles" him in his behaviour. Berg just stood there and didn´t do nothing. Same happens on a videocassette I have from Miles in Paris: The alto player has some problems with his mike and here comes Miles and holds him his Mike into the bell of his the saxophone, so kind, so much support, and what did that kid on the sax ? He didn´t give Miles even a look and played that silly two chord shit (I think the tune was the silly "Human Nature" which I never liked) and that saxophone players just walks of, with that silly hat he has on. I felt pity for Miles, he always was kind to his musicians in those years.... Who was Sam Morrison with Miles. I have read his name somewhere but never saw him. Was there some recordings of Miles just before he retired ?

Yes with Elvin Jones, this was quite late in Elvin´s life. I remember it. He also played flute ! Like Dave Liebman too (best on Ife).

Yeah but Sonny Fortune I think was AFTER I saw the band, and I think it was only for a relativly short time (Agatha and Pangeea), but he is fine and plays alto. And I like his alto sound, while strange to say I am not so wild about Cannonball when he was with the Miles Davis Sextet. There is a certain sound of the alto that I love most: Vibratoless, "sugar-free" ...... well anyone who has at least some of the strength of McLean is my man. Gary Bartz is wonderful....And Sonny Fortune sounds very very good on those Miles albums, but as I said, I saw Miles only with saxophonists like Liebman, and then it was Bill Evans, and I lost the trace of the others later. I think that Bob Berg, who might be a helluva player, was not ideal for the band, or better said, the band not for Bob..... I was to young to see the Band with Bartz or Grossman. Like many of my generation I got my impressions more from the live performances we attended than from LPs, since they were expensive and scarce, while live shows were much more events for not too much money. Since the only dead ones where some of the founders of bop (Bird, But, Fats), there was a lot of music from bop veterans to electric jazz, so I don´t think I got much knowledge from records.....

I never removed anything. I still have old LP´s with pricestickers having shiling instead of Euro, from the 70´s. But I never considered removing a thing that´s important for me. The music counts, the rest I think I am not even aware of.

That´s a very nice record. My only Ben Webster record.

Well I saw Davis with Liebman. Liebman was after Steve Grossman, so about 2 years, 1973 + 1974 and IMHO he was the best of Miles post-Wayne saxophonists.

Its a wonderful foto. Miles having a very happy day, just enjoying live like we all love to do.

though I don´t have that album from the great iugoslav trumpetist Dușco Goicovici it must be an extraordinar one with them great musicians, I´d say some of the very best. Like a Dream Band ! I had first heard Dușco on an Enia Record titled "After Hours" . The thing with Woody Shaw, I have an album of them playing at Uncle Poe´s in Hamburg, Germania, and it is great. But I was a bit astonished that the most prominent of them all, Woody Shaw did not get top billing, Stafford James remained Woody´s bassist, but I saw him with Tony Reedus on drums, who was also great !

It´s quite nice, but sounds somehow untypical for BN-Records. Maybe it sounds a bit more like what they called "Cool Jazz".

Well I have doubts people from my generations would have other kind of Sonny than that from the late 70´s on. I don´t have any reason to dislike what I heard. The albums that were around were fine and exiting, for example the Milestone Albums like "Don´t stop the Carnaval" with Tony Williams, then the albums with Al Foster on drums Sure I have heard some of those Prestige albums mostly "Tenor Madness" on record, but at the time I was listening most, I liked to stuff he did with Don Cherry, last not least for Billy Higgins. But as I said. Sonny Rollins aged in his late 40´s was the Man we saw live and admired, damn good drummers with him, I remember Jerry Harris on electric bass and maybe Mark Soskin on piano.....

It´s my favourite Curtis Fuller record. In my youth I had the wish to gather at least one record from all those heroes of mine. Let´s say my first jazz was the First Miles Davis Quintet and sure I had records from each of the members, let´s say "Blue Trane", "Whims of Chambers" "Blues for Dracula" and "Garlands of Red" or so, and sure when I heard "Blue Trane" I heard Curtis Fuller and got that "Opener". That´s how I bought records.... Indeed a great event. But somehow I remember that Mingus was not very happy with the results and later said "too many friends". But as an ultimate Mingus Fan in my youth I sure had that double CD. But somehow, from all listening I have the feeling that the Mingus from 1970-1973 still was not the Mingus with all that power, especially on his own bass. Ironically I found the bands from 1975-77 much sharper, especially because Richmond was back, and Mingus was playing more of those exiting solos up into the highest register of the bass. I never will forget his solo on "For Harry Carney" in summer 1977, where he played that pizzicato up into the register of a violin and back to the deep deep notes, the best school to learn to play the bass fiddle....

I have it, but must admit I have not spinned it for quite some time. I had seen Thad Jones with his Bigband with Mel Lewis and I think that´s how he will be remembered by most of all fans. I think I also have a Debut record that is called "The Fabulous Th.J." He was a great trumpet player but maybe got a bit forgotten. Jazz students might listen more to the other BN-Artists who were trumpetists, like Lee Morgan, Freddie Hubbard or from the generation of Thad Jones maybe to Kenny Dorham or even Fats Navarro.

Did they have the same hair-dresser ? nice legs , not the greatest but they look nice....

Miles Davis Modern Jazz Giants...... so important for me when I was in my first year of listening to jazz, I mean Miles, Bags and Monk, I think I liked most "The Man I Love" and "Bemsha Swing". It seems there are treasures I have never heard about. Oh Boy: MY favourites ! Each of them a special favourite of mine and extremly important for my making of a jazz musician. I saw Joe Henderson the first time on TV 1977 in a group that had Ratzo Harris on bass, that´s what I remember, Chick Corea was for some of my school buddies the universum of it all, they were "Return to Forever Freaks", it was more the peaceful guys of them, I mean I was longhaired too but more one of the bad guys, while the other category of long hairs was the more peaceful ones.... Ron Carter was also a reason for me to learn bass, and Billy Higgins was my favourite drummer for Bop and Free during that time....

Ronnie Mathews was a Monk expert !

Two different albums. I had spinned "Bird Fire" last week. Brings a lotta memories back. I saw Archie Shepp in 1979 (when this album was recorded) in Viena at Congres-Haus. Same personnel: With the stellar ryhthm section Siegfried Kessler, Bob Cunningham and Clifford Jarvis. This here is some super bebop at its best. Four tunes, each one sheer beauty, power and perfection. I like especially "Parker´s Mood" which I seldon had heard being played with so much emotion. One of my favourite post Free Jazz albums of Shepp. There would have been another called "Lookin at Bird" but since that album was only Shepp with NHOP it was out of the deal for me, since I can´t enjoy without drums and just don´t like NHOP´ playing so much when it is solo time..... Yesterday I heard Mobley´s Workout. Especially for "The Best things in Life are Free" since I had heard Austrian Tenor-Star Ray Aichinger do it very fine on Wendesday. The album is very nice, great team with Green, Kelly, Paul, Philly J.J., but if I had to pick out just one of the straight ahead tunes it would be "Uh Huh", that´s music for late hours when I actually listen music. In rest it might be a bit too much straight ahead, there´s no Bossa or Samba, no Ballad, just playn 4/4 tunes.....

Oh ! I have never seen this records, but Pharoah Sanders is one of my very very first great listening experiences in the early 70´s. I don´t know how often I had spinned things like "Karma", "Thembi" "Live at the East", and the very first I had heard might have been Trane´s "Live at Village Vanguarde Again". Some of the best music I ever heard. And like Shepp, after being in the forefront of avantgarde he re-appeard in the late 70´s early 80´s with straight ahead quartets like the Dexter Gordon Quartet or the Johnny Griffin Quartet would be, but never completly abandoning the free spirits of 60´s avantgarde.

I think the only recorded example of Dick Twardzik (how hard to pronouce that name) is a version of "April" on the Musidisc LP "Happy Bird". But it´s Bird who really shines on this , and the strong bass of Mingus. Maybe I heard another example too, but I am not sure. In any case, the West Coast part is missing in my discography, I fear to say. Somehow, from the short listening experiences his playing seems to have some directions that remind me of mostly Tristano (whom I like more, if he does not do that overdubbing crap) and maybe from that film I saw about Joe Albany. It sounds a bit like if Dick Twardzik would have listened to some 12 tone things, that kind of classical music of the 20th century. I got to hear Chet Baker for the first time in 1978, before that, with all the Giants of Jazz I had seen until then, Chet was a completly uncommon name for me. But from 1978 on, when I saw him live for the first time, I liked him and saw him dozens of times. I even have some of his records from the 70´s or 80´s ........But the reason may be that Baker in his last 10 years sounded much more like let´s say early Miles, or Kenny Dorham...

Yesterday I enjoyed listening to some top acts in Austrian Jazz here in Viena at Zwe, that wonderful little club which is something like a jazz laboratory, so many raising top acts have been spotted there if you watch out for talent scout. Yesterday the band of established great musicians was the highly appreciated Ray Aichinger on ts, with great guitarist John Arman and all of them, and after intermission Ray asked me at the bar if "I´m motivated" and yeah if he asks, I have to be ! So I sat in for 3 tunes, nice feeling cause how in December I have no gig.... The big surprise was a so nice played "The best things in live are free", and one Ray Aichiger original cauld "Old Danube".....really great them guys.....

Thank you both !

Rollins with Monk sounds very good. I think there are different sessions, one is with more originals, is not "That´s call This" from such a session, like "Friday 13th" and so on ? And another one is with standards, like "More than you know" ? Than I think I have it. But also the Sonny Rollins album on BN, where Monk replaces Horace Silver is very interesting....