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    Well me not really. I really got into bass bowing as a listening experience by listening to the first jazz lp I ever had, Miles with Paul Chambers on bass. I taught myself to play bass when I was at high school and even could work some gigs. No one less than a really good austrian bass player told me I should go onm but I always felt my instrument is the piano and after 37-40 years I think there´s not much left even if I might still know how to finger it. I still have the bass fiddle at home, much to the annoyment of my wife "grin" I don´t feel hurt if it sounds "ugly" for classical trained musicians or listeners, and he can get far out also if he likes, but those bowed octaves alternating with plugged bass sounded a bit funny to me. But maybe a few more listening. Well Charlie Haden knew the music very well and is hand in glowe with Ornette and Cherry and them all, but when he starts solo, it sometimes sounds funny to me, very very diatonic, like childs songs. I feel more comfortable if Henry Grimes plays a solo, it´s more jazzy......
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    Right now , from the Clifford Jordon Strata East I´ve listened to Disc III. The Charles Brackeen-Don Cherry-Charlie Haden-Ed Blackwell "Rhythm X" , I had it on tape when I was a youngster and wanted to hear it again. So it was not a real surprise for me because it´s exactly how I remembered it: Like Don Cherry´s Complete Communion it´s an easy way for starters to get into free jazz. In my case I wanted to dig 60´s avantgarde and a guy gave me those two together with the easier Ornette Coleman (Golden Circle) to get into it, since it still has lines of straight ahead walking bass, approachable for Free-Jazz Newbies. It´s a wonderful work, very Ornette Coleman influenced, Charlie Haden is also really great but when he picks up the bow and start´s bowing it´s a bit funny how it sounds, like bees flyin around. David Izenzon was better for bowing avantgarde, and Henry Grimes above all......., but that´s part of the game, those sections where he starts to bow with a funny sound.... And the Ed Blackwell led stuff is also great, 2 tunes with regular quartet with Don Cherry and a guy named Lucman Lateef who sounds interesting, And as a drums lover I really enjoyed the selections with drummers and percussion only. I´ve always loved drums and drummers.....
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    Interesting point, Mike ! Would be a topic for the Musician´s corner, I´d like to discuss it. Here just for the moment, I play a lot of jam sessions also, that means first set our unit and our setlist, and second set anyone who want´s to play. Usually the guys who want to jam, if they want to play a rhythm changes tune they play Anthropology (more rare) and Oleo, very often. But I think they learn certain tunes and it´s part of the training program they get in those schools. Since I never attended a music school I just play what I would like to hear myself, or we concentrate on tunes that are not so much heard. Like: Everybody plays "Oleo" when he want´s to play an uptempo rhythm tune, but nobody plays "Dizzy Atmosphere" (maybe cause it´s in A-flat and more difficult to finger ? ) or "Salt Peanuts" ......, so we play whatever the guys in the second set want to play and start our own set with stuff like "Dizzy Atmosphere", "Salt Peanuts" , "Johns Abbey"......etc. when it should be a rhythm changes associated tune.....
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    Yes, good idea. I also should spin Time Waits again. I remember once I played with an alto saxophonist who did some of the tunes from that album : Johns Abbey, Marmalade, Monopoly, was a great experience to do it with a horn player. I still do "Abbey" on many occasions and people like it. Strange that it isn´t performed more often, it´s an easy tune....
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    Thanke you Late ! In combination with Epistrophy it´s interesting to listen to his very Monkish "Mediocre". It has some astonishing stride section, though I don´t think it is more than a Monkish idea. Bud didn´t keep it in his repertory. His most successful effort to compose a think in the Monkish vocabulary without too much copying him might be "Monopoly" from "Time Waits". It also has an astonishing stride section. And most important: Bud kept it in his repertory, he played it in Paris and quite often at Birdland 1964 after his return.
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    Was hard to find that thread again, searched with different combinations, but finally: Yes, I got it on chrismas eve. Listened to it yesterday. Fantastic. They really cook. And as a drums fan it´s natural I´m delighted by the participation of Philly Joe Jones, he really lifts up the whole thing. Dizzy is in top form. Not the slightests signs of loosing the chops due to age. James Moody impressed me most on flute. Milt Jackson was not only a wizzard of the vibes, but a master of ballads, listen to his "If I should loose you". Get Happy is at an ultra fast tempo, that´s bop at it´s best. I think Philly J.J didn´t record or play so much with Diz, and never heard of a combination between him and Ray Brown. Maybe it´s the different directions they went in the 50´s. Ray Brown after being the most important bop bassist after Oscar Pettiford, became Oscar Peterson´s man, and Philly J.J. became Miles´ drummer. So maybe they didn´t have much in common for many years...... Ray Brown´s solo feature the medley Manha de Carnaval/Work Song is fantastic, and don´t forget Mr. Hank Jones. Beautiful, the Gentleman of the piano.......
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    so you were there on the same night. It was a one nighter. I remember Axel, a born optimist, had this worried look. You say swiss live recording. I remember one year later in 88 there was an announce in JazzPodium about Woody that he became ill and cannot play and to donate money into a swiss bank account. But this was before Woody´s fatal accident.....I´ve always hoped that Woody might rally ....
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    hi BigBeatSteve, you are right, I know the Ross Russell book quite well, but Symphony Sid´s comments are well recorded also. You have it on the complete Savoy Live Recordings "Bird at the Roost" . And on many many other recordings "Summit Meeting at Birdland" etc.

    More than 40 years ago, me and another kid who was a fan too, we just memorized everything Sid said, trying to imitate his voice and even playing "let´s make our own radio show" talking into a tape recorder commenting jazz, it was just fun. I think this was not unusual during our time the mid seventies. A well known austrian radio commentator on pop music stated in an interview he did it also when he was a kid, making his "Sendung" on his own tape recorder in the kid´s room......

    My friend who was a starting bass player loved Bird and Bird´s bass player Tommy Potter was his idol. I remember how mad he went when Symphony Sid on one occasion forgot Potters Name and announces the other musicians and says something like  "the great guys like Bird, Dizzy, Bud Powell, Roy Haynes and ........aaaaah........

    There was another guy of our time Herwig Wurzer who moderated "Jazz Shop" on Oe3 once a week and we also tried to imitate his speech since he was our austrian idol, our kind of "cool voice in the night".

    It was wonderful times, funny music loving kids, spending most of our money on records

     

    Best regards

    Gheorghe

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    I think this one was one of the last recordings, even one year later than "Bemsha Swing". It must have been around the time Woody Shaw appeared at Jazzland, at a very very late stage of his career. Woody had consumed many many of those little Underberg-bottles before being led on stage. Needless to say he sounded quite sad.
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    Just heard Charlie Parker´s version of "White Chrismas" the other day, it was a request "Bird.... a gennulman from the Bronx just called in and asked if you could play White Chrismas for him...." and Bird did it, with Kenny Dorham ....... wonderful item. And a very personal thing is the "Bud at Home" recording where Bud plays and SINGS the Chrismas Song.
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    Yes, just recently my wife bought me "Bemsha Swing" for my own birthday 11 days ago. Just a fantastic album and everybody sounds great on it. I saw Woody when he was on the peak of the movement and had that fantastic group with Steve Turré , Mulgrew Miller, Stafford James and the fantastic Tony Reedus. It was the band he recorded and toured with at least until 1983. I never understood how things went bad for him, that he was forced to tour as a single. On that 1986 date he was lucky to have great musicians like Gary Allen, Bob Hurst and Roy Brooks, but on other occasions I saw him with mediocre musicians and it was sad. He was one of the greatest trumpet players, his sound, his power, his approach of the music. His compositions. I noticed, that in later years he concentrated more on standards than on his own originals. One of my favourite compositions of him is "Sweet Love of Mine". Strange..... without remembering that it´s arround his birthday, I played that tune on piano 2 days ago...... Maybe without knowing, this was my way of remembering him......
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    Sometimes, if it´s a musician who means very much to me, I try to post on such "Happy Birthday" threads something from my own view, remembering when I saw her or him live or about special records I like. But never that blunt "Happy Birthday Congratulations" just to gather posts. So it´s okay for me and I will post further if I can say more about that musician .
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    Two of my favourites. And on "Sounding Off" I like especially the ballads, that "Ghost of a Chance" is just sheer beauty, and Walter Bishop is unique on that too.
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    Yeah, that Kenny Drew is a great record, and a great line up. I listen to the Charlie Parker "Live at the Roost", cause Vol. II just fits in right now. The Chrismas 1948 sessions, Bird playing "White Chrismas" and really groovin on it. And I always must laugh when I listen to Symphony Sid´s announcements......"Bird, a genullman from the Brox just called in and asked if you could play White Chrismas....." Another item of Bop at Chrismas will be the 1949 Carnegie Hall stuff with Bird´s group and the other allstar group with Miles from that date.....
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    incredible story, Niko ! Lee Konitz in your own house, great !
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    Thank you kinuta for your really interesting answer. Yeah, "out of tune" , the piano sounds like that, not as much as the out of tune piano on Monk´s early Prestige session, but nevertheless. I´m lookin forward listening to the Glass Bead Games too. Somehow the period late 60´s early 70´s is not very much represented in my disco. I have a lot of Cliff Jordan with the Magic Triangle from 1975. Will be interesting comparing the Pharoah Sanders with the other better known stuff "Karma" and other Impulse records.
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    me to, got it yesterday and have listend to "in the World" and the Cecil Payne date. It´s interesting to hear a quite straight ahead thing with two basses and two drummers, they all are topnotch musicians. A surprise for me was the Kenny Dorham . I didn´t even know he still played that late in his life. Always thought the "Trompeta Toccatta" was his last recording. And he still sounds very good. Same with Wynton Kelly. Never heard anything that late in his career, he had more profile during the early 60s, with Miles and then with various BN artists and then with Wes Montgomery...... The piano sounds a bit tinny, maybe it was an upright. At least on one of the photos you see an upright. The Cecil Payne disc is also very good. I liked most the last track "Flying Fish", I heard that live, Cecil Payne with Ron Carter, and a young unknown tenorist and I don´t remember the rest, but it was towards the end of Cecils life. It´s strange to hear straight ahead material that late in the 60´s. I´m lookin forward now to listen today to the more free material, once I have heard the Brackeen Don Cherry stuff, cant wait hear the Ed Blackwell and the Pharoah Sanders and the rest of it.......
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    Mundell Lowe RIP

    Gheorghe replied to sgcim's topic in Artists

    It´s strange but it seems this one was my only encounter with Mundell Lowe. I remember I was still almost a kid when I purchased this Parker album, which was kind of an insider album in my clique. Maybe because then "new thing" and "free" was the thing. so the title seemed to attract a lot of freaks. I remember I was impressed with the guitar on those fast tracks "Lester Leaps In" etc. and thought wow, until then I only knew Wes Montgomery and Kenny Burrell in the pre rock guitar field. Was quite astonished that somebody else, completely unknown to me and not even mentioned in my only information source "Jazz Book" can play so much guitar along with Bird......, , but it seems it is the only thing I heard of him. Read the name many times and also in DB, but the only listening item remained the one with Bird.....
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    Great stuff ! Right now I´m listening to something my wife bought me for my birthday: Woody Shaw "Bemsha Swing" . A fanstastic life date from 1986 with really fanstastic stuff.
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    Thank you so much !
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    Happy Birthday dear Jim ! The same day like my birthday ! Happy Birthday dear Jim ! The same day like my birthday !
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    I always loved his huge sound, love everything he did ,but especially the great VSOP dates from the 70´s. He is still great, but did he change his bass sound. He sounded more amplified on the recordings and live occasions when I saw him, and now it sounds more "traditional".
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    Oh thank you all so much. And great item that song Sagittarius, my zodiac......enjoyed it very much !
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    I justs want to thank you all for the kind inspirations. I have listened to the items and yesterday we performed it, with that simple intro vamp and all, and I really enjoyed playing it and the audience loved it. Anyway it was a fine occasion, 2 days before my birthday it was a kind of birthday set with jam after the first set. If you want to know what we played, the setlist was: 1) And then she stopped (that´s a Dizzy tune I have a special affinity to it I heard Diz play it with Sandoval), 2) Hot House 4) Dizzy Atmosphere, 5) Lover Man, 6) Ow (bass feature), 7) Con Alma, 8) Bouncing with Bud During the session there was a fine "Don´t stop the Carneval" where they went into "Happy Birthday" just with the same latin groove. Really fine. Once again, thank you for your kind help.
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    Happy Birthday to the genius Mr. McCoy. He made me happy so many times, great live experiences with great groups, fantastic recordings, everything, just thank you.
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