Jim R

It's good to know that Lumiar is still continuing with new projects. I wonder if they will ever offer the songbooks of these composers: Roberto Menescal (this one seems overdue, IMO) Luiz Eça Durval Ferreira & Mauricio Einhorn Eumir Deodato

yes, that part! I have gathered it is him, but... weird ← Almost Tiny Grimesish

Okay, even I can translate "Zut". Thanks, John. So... add one Joe Castro to my list of pianists with a certain similarity of style (to my ears, at least). I don't own much JC, just a couple of Teddy Edwards discs, so I'm not terribly familiar with him, relatively speaking. At any rate, my piano question remains... maybe this really was a widespread sound (but I'd still like to get a handle on it, if it's possible to associate a group of players in this way).

Well, there goes one of my nutty theories... Thanks for the tidbit.

Okay, #8 is starting to bug me now. Two members recognized it, but didn't provide links... which is cool, just forces me to think harder and makes the whole thing more fun. But now it's bugging me, goddammit. Jim, could you confirm whether it's Vinnegar on bass? Just this one clue might help me to piece things together. Actually I'm not necessarily close, but I think (hope) that I can narrow things down via the piano player (I guessed Russ Freeman, which I think may be wrong, but there are a handful of players in whom I hear similar characteristics). Which leads me to a tangential topic that I've never gotten around to. Might as well bring it up here... I hear in a number of piano players who were recording in the 50's a similar style, which I've never quite put my finger on, nor traced the origins of. A few players that sound very similar to me at times (and there may be a few others I'm overlooking): Hampton Hawes, Eddie Costa, Russ Freeman, Claude Williamson. It's a manner of swinging, a particularly percussive approach to soloing, not really flashy but more earthy/bluesy/funky. But it's the percussive element that stands out (listen to the lick at 2:34-2:37). On the beat for the most part, and the occasional "bombs" from the left hand. Horace Silver had a hand (pun probably intended) in inspiring this style, but in terms of this particular track and the elements of this player's style that prompted me to bring this up, I associate the sound more with the other players (and I would tend to put less emphasis on Hawes in this respect also, as he a broader technique at his disposal). So, before I get any further out in left field, does any of this make any sense to anybody? What do you all think of this pianist (more ideas)? If anyone else has zeroed in on this particular piano style, any thoughts on tracing it's origin? As I said, I'm probably overlooking some other players, and it may have been far more widespread than I'm currently realizing. Two people already know who the pianist here is, so I hope I don't end up falling off the limb I'm on.

Dude, trust me - the rest of the album is nothing like that cut. You're gonna thank me some day for urging you to believe me now and go out and get that sucker asap! ← Yeah, actually I should just thank you right now (thank you), because I'm realizing that this is one of those "I'll buy it eventually" discs that I've put off for way too long. Thanks to Chris also. ===== Solid link on that J-Rich. I need to pull those suckers out again (that one and "Roamin'") pronto. Haven't played them in a few years. ... AND "Goin' To The Movies", a great one which I gots from YOU!

This one turned out to be tougher than I expected. Overall, some very good listening. 1. Don’t think I’ve ever heard this before, but the tune is based on the changes to “There will never be another you”. This is fun, but I’m not really crazy about this style of jazz, and have never thoroughly explored it. As fate had it, my interest in jazz didn’t come out of the swing/big band era, so I’m still pretty ignorant about a lot of the guys who patterned themselves after Basie (and Pres). 2. “Indian Summer”. Again, not my area of big interest. The camp of players that came out of the big band era... I like to listen to them, but it’s not often I really pick out distinctive passages that really move me. But I’m still trying to be open to learning more about this style. 3. I’m beginning to see the... idea here. Swinging saxes!! Do I hear Hawk? Think so. With some Ellingtonians methinks... based on the tune 4. Hey, what happened to the saxes? Actually, I’m glad for the change o’ pace. This is nice- a not-so-ordinary approach to the blues. Nice arrangement, and I’m digging the solos too. Shit... this is messing with my brain. I don’t think I own this, but I think I’m going to need it. My first thought was a Herbie Mann group. That is one of the weirdest Kenny Burrell solos I’ve ever heard. There’s one lick where he goes way down low on a bass string... just doesn’t sound like something KB would have played. But it’s KB. DAMN, this can’t be a Herbie Mann thing. At first I thought Curtis on bone, but upon further examination, I recognize some Jimmy Cleveland (or Rosolino) type technique in there. I think this is Cleveland... and now I know what the **** this is! It’s gotta be Jerome Richardson’s session. I don’t have time to check or do a link right now, but it’s from one of his New Jazz albums. 5. The theme is pretty nice, but I didn’t really care for the pianist, or the alto. The drummer is great (maybe Elvin?), but I would rather rather hear him on something else. 6. 2 1/2 stars. I won’t be searching for this, but it was good to hear it. Can't I.D. anybody. 7. Solitude. 2 stars. Pleasant enough, but I’d rather hear this a tad slower and with a slightly more modern approach to chords. I don’t know who this is, but it strikes me as a younger player incorporating an older stylistic approach. 8. East of the sun. I’m not sure on the alto... but the pianist sounds like Russ Freeman. Very nice. I’m not enthralled with the altoist, but then I’m finicky sometimes. 9. Interesting... but I could live without it. 10. For me, they’re cramming too much music into too little space (time). Marvelous execution, without a doubt, but not something that really pleases my ears in a way that I’d want to spin it again any time soon. 11. I used to have this on a compilation CD somebody gave me. I like it, but not enough to buy the disc it came from, I guess. But nice to hear this again. Hawkins again, right? 12. Unmistakeably Lockjaw on tenor, but beyond that I’m not sure. Maybe a Pablo jam from the 70’s? 13. Whew, I got goosebumps from the opening. I don’t listen to much clarinet, but maybe I should do something about that. More than you know... great song. Don’t know who this is. 14. Hhtm. Maybe a Hampton group? I dunno, these old ones often stump me... I need to listen further to this guitar player. 15. Erroll Garner, who knew more songs than I do (what is this tune... I’ve heard this before, but I can’t recall the title). 16. Strong finish. This grooves from the get-go, with a nice tight sound from the rhythm section throughout. Can't identify anybody as of yet.

Thanks brownie. Just yesterday I had read about Fontaine in one of my books. Actually, my son's question was not limited to the World Cup, nor even just international competition. He wanted to know who scored the most goals in their entire career (including games with club teams). The same book I referred to states that Pele finished his career with 1,281 goals in 1,363 matches. Of course, Pele was among the first names I thought of, but the book doesn't definitively state that 1,281 is the most ever scored by one man. I suspect it may be, though...

Kind of like this thread?

Slightly off (the World Cup) topic, but my son asked me a quesiton yesterday while we were watching the U.S./Panama game. "Who has scored the most goals in their career?" Naturally, I said "Me" (which could be true, but let's not go there ). I thought maybe he meant who has scored the most goals for their country, which is a simpler question, but he meant overall- over an entire career in internationals, club matches, etc. I'm not sure I've ever heard an answer to that question. I assume that somebody would keep such records... but despite my years as a fan of the sport, I don't know the answer (or even who might be included at the top of the list). I have some ideas, but does anyone know?

Hey, there's only one real (and tasty!) Budvar! ← Pour!

Mike, fwiw, my copy lists RVG with Cal Lampley supervising.

I still haven't had the opportunity to see the Australian team. Hopefully soon. Well, the Costa Rica debacle is behind me (us) now. Using primarily younger players, the U.S. dominated Panama tonight, scored two quality goals, and surpassed the mexicans to become group winners. A shutout for backup keeper Tim Howard, who is trying to get back to top form after a few struggles lately. I see that the Dutch went 10-2-0 in their 12 qualifiers, and Portugal 9-3-0. Hard not to be impressed by that. I hope the U.S. doesn't face Portugal in the early rounds again... they'd be out for some serious revenge for '02. :rsmile:

Man, has THIS thread taken a left turn. Oops, make that a right turn. ...anyway, "briefly"?

I guess it's a fact of life in some of these late-round games. At any rate, consider yourself fortunate that you at least got to see England, France, and Netherlands in action. The network that brings us games from europe has not aired much at all in terms of the elite teams. We keep getting Bulgaria and Belarus and Slovenia and Lithuania and etc etc... I was just glancing at the european standings on this page (http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/t/grou...x.html?zone=eur), and couldn't help seeing the rather absurd irony of the BUDWEISER sponsorship all over the place. I understand it, and I know it's all about the $$$, but even I don't drink that shit. Oh well, at least it wasn't Coors Lite™ The U.S. sure stunk it up against Costa Rica. Ouch. Almost makes me want to turn my attention to another sport. Amazing what one lousy game can do to dampen your enthusiasm/optimism.

Unless I'm mistaken, there are also a couple of tracks ("Loie" and "Love your spell is everywhere") from FREEDOM on this CD:

I've been wonderin' too. Al is one who has come right out and said what many of us feel- that we spend (a little ) too much time here, so this doesn't exactly worry me. It's not as fun around here without him, though. Al is one of the all-time good guys. Don't stay away TOO much, Al!

Me too, but since Noj hasn't gotten his either, I'll hold off on the tantrum.

Nice laid back date with Tommy Flanagan, Wendell Marshall, and Osie Johnson. They do: for you for me for evermore, while we're young, then i'll be tired of you, mighty like a rose, at dawning, trouble is a man, poor butterfly, i'll get by.

But seriously, as a guitarist I think about the fingerboard, the shapes, positions, and where my fingers need to go next. I don't think about theory, except whatever tidbits may pop into my head during the process of playing. Also I'm an ear player for the most part (just read chord charts), which tends to free the mind. Oops, you asked for opinions from advanced players.

Among other things... and not necessarily in that order.

In my case, not enough, and not regularly enough. Thanks for reminding me. Following a regular pattern is hard for me, because my motivation and inspiration really ebbs and flows. I can't stand "practicing" when it doesn't feel good, and unfortunately, there are too many days when it doesn't feel (or sound) good. I really respect (but don't necessarily envy) musicians who perform 350 days a year.

Not sure if that's a counter to my point, but when I said ""K.B. Blues" (all three of these, in fact) might have achieved a higher reputation if it had been more widely distributed.", I was suggesting that if the material had been widely distributed (released in the U.S., for starters) at an earlier date (not necessarily approaching the original recording dates, but even at the time they were released in Japan, circa 1980), these albums would have at least had a better chance to compete for status as "essentials" or "classics" in the Burrell discography. BTW, I'm just accepting their existence as album packages and commenting based on that fact. I see your point about the scattered and disorganized manner of the releases.

Tiny Grimes is one of my favorites. There is a lot of 'life' in his playing. g ← Amen to that! He had to be good if he could go around wearing a kilt.

Brownie, one thing that may have influenced my thinking (perhaps subconsciously) regarding the two issues of K.B. Blues is that the photo of Burrell on the cover you have was taken later (mid-60's or after) than the period in which the music was recorded. At any rate, there may not have been much of a time difference between the two issues. I'm sure there are other examples of Japanese issues with different covers which were issued within a fairly short time span (GXF vs GXK; King vs Toshiba ? ... my memory of all this is beginning to fail. I sold most of my vinyl, and it's been 25 years since these were issued, after all ).