mikeweil

Congratulations, Marcus!!! You fooled us all the way with some items. Tony Williams with Tommy Flanagan: I knew Tony recorded in that trio, but the sound is so far from his - it must have been a loaned drumset, and as I said, it's very badly recorded. That Japanese bass drums team is a killer! I'm on my way to a week-long workshop in the Black Forest and probably won't be able to look here for the coming week, so thank you very very much, and can you give some recommendations for Luis Carlos Vinhas? I liked him a lot on the Herbie Mann Do The Bossa Nova LP, what was the trio he played in? Obrigado!

I thought everybody here had the Joe Henderson Milestone Years box set ...

Take care of yourself, Jim! If this is not just a contemporary phenonenon, you should try to reduce diuretic beverages (e.g. coffee, beer) and/or avoid/reduce drinking in the evening hours, but if that hasn't any effect, go see a doctor. Not being able to sleep through the night will cause considerable stress after short time.

But if I really had to pick one, it would be Monk. But remember how few recognized him when a piano solo popped up on a BFT?

I think one single tone - I suppose you are talking about one note, musically - is not enough - it's the phrasing, the connecting of notes that makes them distinctive, and that is inseparable from the personal sound. It would be fairly easy to find some single tone and edit it out and take it for one of the players mentioned, but back in context you would doubt it is the player you just guessed. I doubt that if any tenor saxist would hit the same note in the studio under exactly the same recording conditions, that we would get them all. But if they played one identical phrase, that's a chance.

You are right about that video. It is great. I was surprised at how short Israel Crosby appears to be, not that that matters. Most of what is available on CD of the Jamal-Crosby-Fournier trio is in the form of compilations that often do not include all of the cuts from the LPs involved. I believe I have noticed some few comnplete records being produced as CDs in Japan. I picked up one cd call Ahmad Jamal at His Very Best that had all of Jamal at the Pershing (which is avialable otherwise) and all of Ahmad Jamal at the Black Hawk which I believe is the last record this trio made. Tom You should watch his fingers - he had what German physicians call (literally translated) "drum-mallet fingers" - all fingertips look like they were caught in a press. I know someone who has this - looks strange, but is absolutely harmless. Not a disadvantage for a double bass player. Crosby was one of the greatest - period. He belongs up there with Blanton and Pettiford, IMHO. Mosaic would have done the Jamal trios long ago, but the recordings were tied up in "legal tangles", they answered my request some years ago. "Ahmad's Blues" and "Cross Country Tour" give much of the live stuff without doublings, at least. "Chamber Music of the New Jazz" is announced for the Verve LPR series later this year - I hope they use the original Parrott master tape without the reverb added. Sounds much better than the Chess LP. If they were clever they would include the four sides issued on Parrott 78's, but ...

12, not counting the burns of oop sets and the three I sold because I have the music in other issues. Don't ask how many are on my wish list ...

BTW - I urge anybody who likes the trio with Crosby and Fournier to get a copy of the video Jazz from Studio 61 - where the trio's interaction can be watched closely; they alternate with an all-star band with Ben Webster, Buck Clayton, Vic Dickenson, Hank Jones, George Duvivier and Jo Jones - watch Jo Jones rise his eyebrows as he watches Founier's brush playing!

The first trio Ahmad Jamal recorded with had Ray Crawford on guitar! Very underrated und under-recorded guitarist. Eddie Calhoun was on bass, followed by Richard Davis and then Israel Crosby. Vernel (neither Vernal nor Vernell!) Fournier replaced the guitarist.

Yeah - they were released on Ervin's Settin' The Pace; recorded in Munich at the same session as The Trance.

Universal now has the rights to this - the Prestige was licensed for a limited time. Better hope for a reissue in the series of MPS reissues by Universal in Germany and Austria - not unlikely, I think.

It was great too see this heavily Hancock-influenced player develop into his own personality during his tenure with Dexter Gordon - his playing on Manhattan Sinfonie is beautiful. He's what I would call a "B+ player", but I always liked him a lot - sad to hear this. All the best, Mr. Cables!

I'm lucky that I had many of those that interest me ... I ended up ordering six.

Fantasy has revealed details on the Dexter Gordon Prestige box set: It starts off with the one live track from 1950 (Move) that was first issued on the first Wardell Gray Memorial LP, continues with the 1960 Jazzland LP, and moves on to the various Prestige LPs, inluding 17 unissued tracks ((link). Tracklisting is on (page 2) - sorry can't copy and paste the text here, as it's a graphic file.

Absolutely! This is great, great stuff. I have suspected that this one may receive the double RVG treatment. BN seems to like to include a double set with each announcement. This would be a good one to bring back if it is OOP. This was originally issued on two single discs and reissued as a double CD. I don't see any reason why or how RVG should improve the sound - the orginal engineers (David Baker assisted by Jim Anderson!) did an excellent job. I'd rather fear that Mr. van Gelder's hearing loss would serve us another load of highs and lows boosted up a little too much.

Anybody here compared Tender Moments with the previous CD?

Isn't there a listing of these somewhere in the web? I remember a thread with a link to a Somethin' Else listing. I too was underwhelmed, but some stuff was really good - sometimes it takes some years to really appreciate a recording. I regret I never got the Manhattan Project video.

That is a nice and positive review, but the linking of Haydn's symphonies to the Vivaldi concertos is plain b.s. IMHO. Although Vivaldi's op.8 was widely available his music was hopelessly out of date by the time Haydn wrote his. Vivaldi died in Vienna in 1741, but did not accomplish anything there after his move in 1740. BTW, here's a link to the Freiburger Barockorchester's english web pages.

Well, I like it that he does not round out all the edges - Tafelmusik always sounded too polished for my taste. But if that's what you're looking for ... Hogwood was criticized for not rehearsing properly enough by his double bass player of the time, Barry Guy. But with a project of these dimensions one has to compromise, I'm afraid. Haven't yet heard the Freiburger's version - although they always delivered fine performances when I heard them, live or on record. I have Pinnock's version of the Tageszeiten Symphonies which is nice, but I haven't listened to it for a long time.

Thanks for the link - there weren't any to be found in Germany. I ordered one.

He did - take a look at page 7 of the discussion thread.

One of the last from the times when nearly every drummer had a unique style. RIP, Mr. Hogan. I liked him very much on A.K. Salim's Blues Suite on Savoy, and on all the Randy Westons, although I have to admit the Newport live recording mentioned before is one of the weaker documents of the band.

The use of harpsichord in the continuo group is in heavy dispute among Haydn scholars - while common practice at the time these pieces were composed, there is no evidence Haydn played a keyboard in performance but rather was the leader of the second violin group. The orchestra during his earlier years at Eszterhaza was pretty small, with only one alto, one cello and one violin added to four each for the fisrt and second violin parts. There was excellent documentation accompanying the recording of Haydn's complete symphonies by the Academy of Ancient Music led by Christopher Hogwood on Decca - sadly the series was discontinued after Vol. 10. The ten boxes contain three discs each in chronological order, H.C. Robbins Landon was the musicological consultant. There was a VHS video published by Decca at the start of the series in 1991 (# 071 120-3) Haydn at Eszterhaza that is an excellent introduction to the subject and includes performances in the room where Haydn premiered most of these symphonies (# 29, 23 & 28 - these are performances different from those in the box). I prefer Hogwood to Pinnock, who is a little stiff on the beat for my taste. The Hogwood boxes are oop but may be available used: Vol. 1: # 1,2,4,5,10,11,18,27,32,37,107 Vol. 2: # 3,14,15,17,19,20,25,33,108 Vol. 3: # 6,7,8,9,12,13,16,40,72 Vol. 4: # 21,22,23,24,28,29,30,31,34 Vol. 5: # 35,38,39,41,58,59,65 Vol. 6: # 26,42,43,44,48,49 Vol. 7: # 45,46,47,51,52,64 Vol. 8: # 50,54,55,56,57,60 Vol. 9: # 53,54,61,66,69,67,68 Vol. 10: # 62,63,70,71,73,74,75 If you want order numbers let me know. There are recordings of early Haydn symphonies on period instruments by the Hanover Band led by Roy Goodman on Hyperion (another projected complete recording disconinued after poor sales), Derek Solomons on Columbia/CBS, and La Petite Band led by Sigiswald Kuijken on Deutsche Harminia Mundi or Virgin. But the ones by Hogwood are the best prepared and most consistent, IMHO.

Besides some of those mentioned - Tony Williams Bennie Wallace Bobby Watson Don Grolnick Renee Rosnes New York Stories Andrew Hill Ralph Peterson I would say these: Steve Maskowski Kenny Burrell Guitar Band with Rodney Jones and Bobby Broom Sherman Irby Greg Osby Geoff Keezer Mark Shim