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Back in the mid to late 70s I thought Iommi was the guitarist for HM simply because he wasn't a shredder, he didn't relu on speed and endless arpeggios like some of the players who came in his wake. To me his playing is about presence, depth and heft but I'm no musician so can't give a technical analysis, just a listener and that does me just fine But repetition and simplicity aren't necessarily negative attributes. I suspect your conclusion is correct, this music is simply not to your taste, that's not a bad thing either. But as this is a thread celebrating one of the universally accepted progenitors of the genre it's really not surprising it features lots of folk who hear otherwise. Each to their own.

Thank you for posting this, I haven't heard it in 45 years and I can hear why my teenage self loved it so much. As to whether Iommi is a good guitarist, I think it's self-evident that he's a great heavy rock player, after all he's fundamental in creating the style, but if you don't like heavy rock guitar playing your never going to get it. The instrumental interlude makes a convincing argument that he could indeed play well outside the genre. That contrast from the interlude into the opening riff is pure musical theatre and genius.

Yes, my local shop also didn't have an original... Listening again now with the volume up another notch, sorry neighbours, and bass is definitely more present.

Yes, possibly, I did turn my copy of 'Trio' up a bit. I also found the bass(es) recessed but that could be the original recording. I've not listened to 'Pendulum' yet

I never heard what others do in that band. Lots of bluster to my ears (same with most of James Brandon Lewis) but it's good we all have different responses

She seemed ever present as a guest on the light entertainment TV shows of my childhood so she was probably my stealth introduction to Jazz. I think she defined Jazz for the non-Jazz audience for a few decades. I got to appreciate her a lot more in later years but was never a big fan, my loss not hers I'm sure.

Me too

Cecil Payne - Zodiac Suite

He was the soundtrack of my teenage years. Thanks Ozzy! Not many artists define a genre, Sabbath did.

I was really sorry not to make the Vortex, very good by all accounts. I have now just placed my order for the CD.

Seeing him in London on Saturday in one of our major concert halls, and very much looking forward to it as it will be the first time since a trio club date in late 80s. £100/ticket is definitely the very upper price range for the venue but I was gifted the ticket by my partner.

Yes definitely a disc at a time box set I agree. I hope I didn't shout out anything embarrassing 😀 I have never bought the CD to find out...

I hope you enjoy the box Pim, it's a lot of EP, a treasure trove. I was at that Vortex gig in '96

Let's hear it for the hokum...

Me too now, thanks for the prompt

Quite simply I think it's only the desire to have the LP/cover in as close a condition as when originally issued. The Obi is part of the original artifact so collectors like to have them. I see no difference between desiring that as to desiring original inner sleeves, inserts etc. And yes, this isn't about the music (cue that chorus) it's about the complete artifact in as close a condition as when originally issued as possible.

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One thing about the series I didn't quite understand was how/why Luca and the others from the closed down restaurant suddenly decide to stage at The Bear

A lot of that wider audience is a good bit younger than the average age here and Pharaoh is probably a bigger pull than Coltrane to this segment. That audience will be buying their music as downloads or LPs (please let's not debate this all over again, it is what it is) and as such may not be setup to play this set. Other than that, I completely agree with JSngry, it will be in the marketing. As yet I have seen zero mention of this set anywhere but here. For instance, there's no buzz on Jazz Instagram, a pretty lively community. Mosaic's only presence on that platform is a Mosaic Images feed which is 2 years dormant which says a lot for their marketing choices. Maybe Mosaic have worked out that there's enough potential even within their usual marketing scope.

I do recognise that characterisation and it's not a long way from my initial reaction. Familiarisation has revealed a much greater sense of interaction and build/release over longer periods, to great effect.

Finished, didn't see that coming

Interesting response, it's one of my albums of the year, we all have different ears thank heavens

I'm up to ep.6 and there's no quality dip. The wedding episode was masterful

I have a ticket (very much not free...) for a London concert in a few weeks, hoping for a similar line-up Will be my first time seeing HH since a trio in a smallish club in late 80s

I'd buy that if I were in the US, been flirting with it for a while