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Jaffa, Lord has the following information: >>> Dizzy Gillespie [G2083-16] Dizzy Gillespie And His Legendary Big Band Live At Carnegie Hall 1947: Dizzy Gillespie (tp,vcl) Dave Burns, Elmon Wright, Ray Orr, Matthew McKay (tp) Taswell Baird, William Shepherd (tb) Howard Johnson, John Brown (as) James Moody, Joe Gayles (ts) Cecil Payne (bar) Milt Jackson (vib) John Lewis (p,arr) Al McKibbon (b) Joe Harris (d) Chano Pozo (cga) Lorenzo Salan (bgo) Kenny Hagood (vcl) Tadd Dameron, Gil Fuller, George Russell (arr) Concert "Carnegie Hall", New York, September 29, 1947 Cool breeze (td arr) Artistry AR110, Masters of Jazz (F)MJCD179 [CD] Relaxin' at Camarillo (gr arr) - - One bass hit (gf arr) - - Nearness (td arr) - - Salt peanuts (dg vcl) - , Masters of Jazz (F)MJCD186 [CD] Cubana be, Cubana bop (gr arr) - - Hot house (td arr) - - Toccata for trumpet (jl arr) - - Oop-pop-a-da (kh,dg vcl) - - Things to come (gf arr) - - Yesterdays (unissued) N1791E Festival in Cuba Arco AL8 N1792-2E Panic in Puerto Rico - N1793-2E Bop salad - N1794-E A serenade in fifths - N1795-B2 To be sure - Note: "The nearness of you" as "Nearness; "Cubana be Cubana bop" as "Afro-Cuban drum suite"; and "Oop-pop-a-da" as "Oo-pa-pa-da" on Artistry AR110. There is some doubt as to the existance of Arco AL8; the titles may be fake. Masters of Jazz (F)MJCD186 [CD] titled "Dizzy Gillespie, volume 11, 1947"; see flwg session for rest of CD. Artistry AR110 = Blue Note 57061 [CD]. >>> Lord expresses some doubt about the existence of Arco AL8 and the last five titles (which include the two on your Manor 78). It's unclear why he associates this material with 1947 Carnegie Hall concert. There's more information here from J-Disc: http://jdisc.columbia.edu/session/dizzy-gillespie-september-29-1947 J-Disc references Bruyninckx and raises the possibility that the last five tracks might be from a different date and/or by a different band. jazzdisco.org meanwhile has some information here: http://www.jazzdisco.org/dizzy-gillespie/catalog/#arco-al-8 Bruyninckx has the same information as Lord and is likely the source of the idea that the five mystery titles were by Gillespie. Does your 78 have any matrix numbers or other information in the wax? If so, does it match the N1792-2E and N1793-2E matrix numbers listed by Bruyninckx, jazzdisco.org, and Lord? I suspect that the information in Bruyninckx (and apparently later copied by jazzdisco.org and Lord) may be wrong. It's clear that "Panic in Puerto Rico" and "Bop Salad" were issued on Manor 1182 by Hoyt Hughes. What about the other three titles? I can't find anything associating them with Hughes. Do they exist?

Jaffa, Some information on the band, including a personnel listing, can be found here: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/427490189599466947/ I'll try to cut and paste some information below. Hoyt Hughes Orchestra, San Antonio At Don's Keyhole Club, San Antonio, Dec. 12, 1946. Hoyt Hughes (leader, standing); Gene McKinney (trombone); Cliff Hahne and George Meyer (trumpets); Warren Carpenter, Butch Solis, John Ross, and Milton Thomas (reeds); David "Buck" Wheat (guitar); ChuChu Villa (bass); Chuck Lilly (drums). Out of picture: Chet McIntyre (piano). I found the following from an obituary of Gatemouth Brown: "Whilst still in his teens, Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown began to perform professionally, playing the drums for territory bands such as the Gay Swingsters and William M. Bimbo's Brownskin Models. Following brief war service, he joined Hoyt Hughes's orchestra in San Antonio, Texas, where he was billed as "The Singing Drummer."

Not sure if there was a discussion. There's information on line suggesting that the longest solo by Bird on a commercial release is the version of "The Bird" on The Jazz Scene.

Very nice program David. It makes me want to pull out several recordings that I haven't heard for far too long. Kudos also to Michael for his commentary.

Allen, I suspect the name you're trying to remember is David Chertok. I went to a few of his presentations years ago. Ken Crawford used to show a lot of films at the annual record bash in New Jersey. It used to be really, really hard to see those films. Now you can just go to YouTube and see most of them. They're still special but much more accessible. I share your experience of seeking out good sounding reissues. It did take a lot of time and effort.

Medjuck, Do you have any information suggesting that there's more material from the concert? No additional music is shown in Bob Hilbert's Pee Wee Russell discography. The performances were used in conjunction with a lecture by Whitney Bailliett. Working at home today. Listening to the following, both recorded on the same day:

You can have any kind of home you want. You can even get stucco. Oh can you get stucco.

Abscess makes the heart grow fonder.

Looks like it's time for a 0-13 streak!

Picked up a copy today during a short vacation in Amsterdam. Looking forward to hearing it when I get back home.

Just heard that long-time jazz broadcaster Steve Schwartz has left us. He was a mainstay of the Boston jazz community for many years. He'll be missed.

I've been enjoying it. It's with Eddie Gomez and Eliot Zigmund. They do the following tunes: Sugar Plum Up With the Lark Time Remembered T.T.T. (Twelve Tone Tune) Someday My Prince Will Come Minha (All Mine) All of You Some Other Time It's around 46 minutes.

Thanks all. The cake will be tonight.

Ricky Ford will be appearing with the Makanda Project (an ensemble dedicated to the performance of compositions by Makanda Ken McIntyre) this Saturday in Boston: https://makandaproject.com/upcoming-performances/

Yes, but I don't think that's Elliot!

This one just out...

That's Deval Patrick (not Aptrick).

Chewy... I don't know of a link, but I pulled some information out of Lord for you. BTW, there have been several labels named Rex, but I've limited the information below to the LA label: Johnny Barbera Lennie Niehaus (as) Johnny Barbera (ts) Shannon Fletcher (p) Willie Stader (b) Roy Hall (d) Los Angeles, c. 1948 Hunter's dream Rex 26027 Eastside bop - Lucky bop 26028 Lover man - Teddy Edwards Benny Bailey (tp) Teddy Edwards (ts) Dudley "Duke" Brooks (p) Addison Farmer (b) Roy Porter (d) Los Angeles, July, 1947 MR-5 Bird legs Rex 25056, Onyx ORI215 MR-6 Out of nowhere - - MR-7 Roy's boy 25057, - MR-8 Steady with Teddy - - Rexology 25058, - Three bass hit - - R.B.'s wig 25059, - Body and soul - - Note: All above titles also on Cool N' Blue (Swi)C&B-CD115 [CD]. Teddy Edwards Herbie Harper (tb) Teddy Edwards (ts) Hampton Hawes (p) Iggy Shevak (b) Roy Porter (d) Hollywood, CA, October, 1948 Wonderful work Rex 26025, Onyx ORI212 Teddy's tune - - Fairy dance 26026, - It's the talk of the town (hh out) - - Note: Onyx ORI212 titled "Central Avenue Breakdown, Vol. 1"; rest of LP by others. All above titles also on Cool N' Blue (Swi)C&B-CD115 [CD]; listing date as October 1947. Wingy Manone Wingy Manone (tp,vcl) Joe Yukl (tb) Matty Matlock (cl) Stan Wrightsman (p) Nappy Lamare (g) Phil Stephens (b) Nick Fatool (d) Kay Starr (vcl) Los Angeles, July 25, 1944 RR9792-1 The general jumped at dawn (wm vcl) Ara 143 RR9793-1 Tin roof blues Ara 145, Metro 23005, Rex 23005, Rem 23005, Musicana (Can)3001, Tops 216, Cameo 917, 417 RR9794 If I could be with you (ks,wm vcl,*) Metro 23005, Rex 23005, Rem 23005, Musicana (Can)3001, Tops 216, Cameo 917, 417, Baldwin Street Music (Can)BJH-305 [CD] RR9794-2 If I could be with you (ks,wm vcl) Ara 145, Baldwin Street Music (Can)BJH-305 [CD] RR9795 A-card blues (wm vcl) Metro 23006 Note: Baldwin Street Music (Can)BJH-305 [CD] incorrectly lists New York as location. Rex 23005 shows Mx 9793-2 it plays the same as Ara 145. Rex 23005 reads 9794-2 but plays musically different from Ara 145. Baldwin Street Music (Can)BJH-305 [CD] titled "Kay Starr - The Complete Lamplighter Recordings 1945-1946"; rest of CD by Kay Starr, Charlie Barnet, Bob Crosby. One take of Mx 9794 also on Vintage Jazz Classics VJC-1009-2 [CD] titled "Trumpet royalty"; rest of CD by others. One take of Mx 9794 also on Jasmine (E)JASCD337/8 [CD]. All titles, except (*), also on Classics (F)1412 [CD] titled "Wingy Manone, 1944-1946"; see flwg sessions to March 15, 1946 for rest of CD. Jack Mason Jack Mason (vcl) with unknown acc. 25070-A Nature boy Rex 25070 25070-B Boogie blues - Jay McShann Jay McShann's Orchestra: John Anderson (tp) Jewell Grant, Frank Sleets (as) Maxwell Davis, Buddy Floyd (ts) Floyd Turnham (bar) Jay McShann (p) Mitchell "Tiny" Webb (g) Ralph "Chuck" Hamilton (b) Jesse Sailes (d) Los Angeles, c. mid/late 1950 That's crazy Rex Hollywood 28000 Way out - Jay's blues (part 1) Rex Hollywood 28005 Jay's blues (part 2) - Charles Mingus Charles Mingus And His 22 Piece Bebop Band (Stan Kenton's Sideman): Buddy Childers, John Anderson, Hobart Dotson, Eddie Preston (tp) Britt Woodman, Jimmy Knepper, Marty Smith (tb) poss. 1 or 2 unknown (tp) , Eric Dolphy (as,fl,cl) Art Pepper (as,cl) Herb Caro (ts,cl) William Green (ts,cl,fl) Jewel Grant (as,cl) Gene Porter (bar,cl) Russ Freeman (p) unknown (g), Red Callender (b) Roy Porter (d) Johnny Berger (perc) Charles Mingus (dir,comp) Hollywood, CA, spring 1949 REX28002-A The story of love (1,*) Rex Hollywood 28002 REX28014-A Inspiration (pt 1) 28014 REX28014-B Inspiration (pt 2) - Note: The date for this session has previously been listed as March 1946, 1947 and 1949. The above date and personnel is from Uptown UPCD27.48 [CD] (published in late 2000) and has been compiled by Robert Sunenblick. The CD brochure mentions many interviews and lists the following solos: "The story of love" (Herb Caro, ts; Eric Dolphy, as; Britt Woodman, tb; Russ Freeman, p). "Inspiration" (Buddy Childers, tp; Britt Woodman, tb; Art Pepper, as, behind the orchestra at the ending). Also, the Uptown UPCD27.48 [CD] notes give "The bassist here does not sound like Mingus and is most likely his friend and mentor Red Callender participating so as to allow the composer to concentrate on directing the session. The 2 parts of "Inspiration" have been spliced together on Uptown UPCD27.48 [CD]. (*) This title also on Marshmallow (Jap)MMEX-153 [CD] titled "Timespan". All above titles also on Uptown UPCD27.48 [CD], Properbox (E)77 [CD], Proper (E)P1406 [CD]. Roy Porter Roy Porter And His Orchestra: Art Farmer, Ruben McFall, Robert Ross, Kenny Bright (tp) William Willington, Jimmy Knepper, Danny Horton (tb) Eric Dolphy, Joe Maini (as) Joe Howard, Hadley Caliman (ts) Bob Gordon (bar) Russ Freeman (p) Harold Grant (g,vcl) Addison Farmer (b) Roy Porter (d) Alvy Kidd (cga,bgo,perc) Los Angeles, spring 1949 Frantic dream Rex Hollywood 28001 Everything's cool - Roy Porter Roy Porter And His Orchestra: prob. same pers. Los Angeles, spring 1949 Don't blame me Rex Hollywood 28002 Art Tatum Art Tatum (p) Hollywood, CA, c. May 1945 ARA- Hallelujah ARA 4501, Black Lion (E)BLP30166, Freedom 1040 (F)BLP30166, Smithsonian R029, Topaz (E)TPZ1066 [CD] METRO- Hallelujah Metro Hollywood 23004, Rex Hollywood 23004, Rem 1040-1A Hollywood LP-3, Black Lion BL-158, (E)2460-158, (E)BLP30166, (F)180.059, (It)BLP30124, Freedom (F)BLP30.124, (F)BLP30166, Intercord Black Lion (G)28440-6U, Jazz Man JAZ-5024, Smithsonian R029, Classics (F)982 [CD] ARA- Poor butterfly ARA 4502, Metro Hollywood 23004, Rex Hollywood 1041-1-A 23004, Rem Hollywood LP-3, Black Lion BL-158, 2460-158, (E0BLP30166, (F) 180.059, (It)BLP30124, Freedom (F)BLP30.124, BLP30166, Intercord Black Lion (G)28440-6U, Jazz Man JAZ-5024, Classics (F)982 [CD], Topaz (E)TPZ1066 [CD] ARA- Song of the vagabonds Ara 4504, Metro Hollywood 23003, Rex Hollywood 1042-1 23003, Rem Hollywood LP-3, Black Lion BL-158, (E)2460-158, BLP30166, (F)180.059, (It)BLP30124, Freedom (F)BLP30.124, BLP30166, Intercord Black Lion (G)28440-6U, Jazz Man JAZ-5024, Classics (F)982 [CD], Topaz (E)TPZ1066 [CD] ARA- Lover ARA 4502, Metro Hollywood 23003, Rex Hollywood 1043-1-A 23003, Rem Hollywood LP-3, Black Lion (E)BLP30166, Freedom (F)BLP30166, Intercord Black Lion (G)147.000, Classics (F)982 [CD], Topaz (E)TPZ1066 [CD] ARA- Memories of you ARA 4501, Metro Hollywood 23002, Rex Hollywood 1044-A 23002, Rem Hollywood LP-3, Black Lion BL-158, 2460-158, (E)BLP30166, (F)180.059, (It)BLP30124, Freedom (F)BLP30.124, BLP30166, Intercord Black Lion (G)28440-6U, Jazz Man JAZ-5024, Smithsonian R029, Classics (F)982 [CD], Topaz (E)TPZ1066 [CD] ARA- Runnin' wild ARA 4503, Metro Hollywood 23002, Rex Hollywood 1045-1-A 23002, Rem Hollywood LP-3, Black Lion BL-158, (E)2460-158, BLP30166, (F)180.059, BLP30124, BLP30166, Intercord Black Lion (G)28440-6U, Jazz Man JAZ-5024, Freedom (It)BLP30.124, Classics (F)982 [CD], Topaz (E)TPZ1066 [CD] ARA- Yesterdays ARA 4503, Metro Hollywood 23001, Rex Hollywood 1046-1 23001, Rem Hollywood LP-3, Black Lion (E)BLP30166, Freedom (F)BLP30166, Smithsonian R029, Classics (F)982 [CD], VJC 1016-2 [CD], Topaz (E)TPZ1066 [CD] ARA- The Kerry dance ARA 4504, Metro Hollywood 23001, Rex Hollywood 1047-1A 23001, Rem Hollywood LP-3, Black Lion BL-158, (E)2460-158, BLP30166, (F)180.059, (It)BLP30124, Freedom (F)BLP30.124, BLP30166, Intercord Black Lion () G28440-6U, Jazz Man JAZ-5024, Classics (F)982 [CD], Topaz (E)TPZ1066 [CD] Ray Vasquez Ray Vasquez And His Be-Boppers: Anthony Ortega (as) Walter Benton (ts) Jimmy O'Brien (p) Reyes Gaglio (b) Chuy Ruiz (d) Ray Vasquez (ldr) Los Angeles, late 1947 Snake den Rex 25099 Clutching hand - Jimmie's Packard 26000 Home run - I've also found some references to other issues on Rex, such as: Rex Hollywood 27000. The Zion Travelers. Rex Hollywood 28007. Ruth Wallace and Orchestra/Bob Anson and Orchestra Turns out you started an earlier thread on the Rex label back in 2009. See here: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?/topic/55926-obsucure-west-coast-jazz-label-rex-the-porno-connection/