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I've got the Turtle of the Osborne (that one and the John Taylor 'Pause and Think Again'). The 'Outback' by the way did come out on CD (FMP?) - not sure if it's still in print. FMR did bootlegs of those Turtle sessions. They're interesting, though I'm not sure I'd say anything watershed occurs on them. Not for me, anyway. The Howard Riley is pretty cool, though. Is bootleg really the proper terminology here? I was always always under the impression that they at least got Osborne's permission... (and so I'm still, on some level, smarting at the sheer volume of bootlegs/sordid releases coming out of the UK/SA jazz reissue axis)

I've got the Turtle of the Osborne (that one and the John Taylor 'Pause and Think Again'). The 'Outback' by the way did come out on CD (FMP?) - not sure if it's still in print. Both Outback and Shapes are still available, although I'm not sure if they're in print (my CD issue of Outback is a pretty good sounding master with a pretty shodding packaging job--listed under the "FMR Legacy" imprint).

Naw, I don't have a copy of the Turtle (it's the reissue), tho I've been having conversations with folks regarding putting together more complete collections of SA/UK recordings. Honestly, I don't think I've ever even seen an Ogun LP anywhere in either LA or the Bay Area. Technically not for this thread, but--well, then again... Next--Sam Rivers: Streams (one of several woefully unavailable small group Rivers sessions from the 70's, which I'll probably also get to...)

Yeah, that session puts Barbieri in a pretty good light--not quite the formless rant that one might expect from a screamer of this vintage, but also not a staid or baldly commercial affair. I think Latino America achieved a pretty decent mix, but the ESP disk has lots of fire and none of the occasional dross. Right now (first time) spinning Mike Osborne's Outback, and all the players come off extremely well. A special note in the way of the McGregor/Miller/Moholo section, which plays here with as much fire, creativity, and poise I've heard in an extended context. I can see why so many people wanted this one re-released.

That's an f'ing awsome title, to state the obvious.

True about the "stamp of Roach" thing, and a lot of the Candid dates have that feel. I find that the album is a great showcase for Lincoln, although it will inevitably incite comparisons to other dates of this kidney. The more successful Roach/Lincoln dates of this vintage are, for me, those where the vocals are more fully dissolved into the ensemble context--and hence less explicitly vocalistic or "vocal-centric" in character. We Insist!, for example, has as much Lincoln as any of the Candids outside of Straight Ahead, but it's strictly a group affair (for whatever anyone says, and as potent as Brown and Roach's lyrics are, I fail to hear a dominant voice on those sides--appropriately, I suppose). Whatever the case, Roach-Lincoln were a startlingly powerful team in those days, and I think it really came out where the sides were as violently aggressive as could match that power (some, but not all, of Straight Ahead).

That title sounds really poignant right now. As far as listening is concerned, I really wish I had my copy of Vietnam up here with me. Peace to Leroy... As it is, I'm spinning (not Leroy-related) a copy of the Mike Nock album Almanac (a collaboration w/Bennie Maupin, Cecil McBee, & Eddie Marshall). It's extremely Miles/BN post-bop, and in a good way.

The Mingus tribute is pretty good, IMO. My girl got a copy of one his more recent projects (it's pirate-themed and co-produced by Johnny Depp), Chanteys and Sea Songs. It's got the usual cast of characters (Wayne Horvitz, Bill Frisell), but--typically--a few weird-ass oddities (John C. Reilly singing some raunchy tune about peg-legged persons...). For my money, these tributes are a million times more interesting than the scores of remix projects and "straight" interpretations that regularly flood the tribute bins.

I'm interested in the Interpretations sets, but I haven't heard them. The Rundgren thing/album is one of Hal Wilner's tribute grabbags--maybe not the taste of the hard-bop/post-bop fan (lots of avant/noise rock on these sets, although the "jazz" content of the Monk album is evident in the lineups involved). I guess the proper phrase would be "multi" or "trans-idiomatic", and it may look like a train-wreck, but I find this brand of tribute album pretty engaging.

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Althea isn't outright unlistenable, and the backings are potent enough. I think the best moments on Contrasts are every bit the match of everything Larry led on BN short of Unity. Later Larry, though, is probably best served on Lawrence of Newark--now that one is hard core.

To cool this down a bit, the thesis work at this point is prospective. I recently completed an Ayler/AACM thesis at Berkeley that almost--but due to several unfortunate factors--included a third section on the Europe/Blue Notes axis, but it's more foundational than anything else. If my scholarly work indeed gets underway, then I'll have something more concrete in a month or two... Here's hoping, as there aren't too many places that would accomodate research of the focus I'm aiming toward (i.e., centered on the improvisational factor in SA jazz as a coequal to sociological/historical elements). We'll see (thanks for the interest, though)...

Big, BIG sadness here. He was a giant, a revolutionary of the music. I'll miss those twisty melodies, that searing sound of love. The celestial orcehstra just got its first chair violin...

Just got a few releases that may appeal to the folks here: Hugh Masekela's Union of South Africa (w/Jonas Gwangwa)--a poppy, funk-jazz affair with a few well-placed fireworks. It's fun listening to these more rockish affairs and hearing the stylistic congruities (close harmonies, diatonic melodies, aggressive, expressive soloing) with the other strains of SA music. I like this one. Also up to bat are Zim Ngqawana's Vadzimu and (finally tracking it down...) Mike Osborne's Border Crossing/Marcel's Muse.

"Way, Way Out" is a favorite of mine. Late nails it. Credit goes to those involved for the extremely potent string arrangements, which rank among the more effective "contexts" within which Makanda played. It's all much more of a concerto than a spontaneous ensemble music (and that might even apply to the traditional "rhythm section", which doesn't take to many risks), but the McIntyre blows his heart out. Phenomenal writing and playing... The two dates available (?) on OJC are also quite good, but Stone Blues is somewhat more conventional than the knotty hard/post-bop that McIntyre is known for. The date with Dolphy is great, and the two altos match up pretty well.

For all we know, it's what he's working on there...

WORD.

Yeah, I'm in the same boat. Guess we're targets, huh?

I wound up somewhere in the city, a little close to midnight, back in my early teens--my ride had gotten pulled over by the cops and was "in custody" the whole evening (a hispanic dude with a chin piercing; he had been hanging around a fountain waiting for us to meet him there--the cop took one look at his legitimate CA ID and declared that it was "fake"). Wound up having to take a Taxi back to wherever it was we came from, scared shitless by the sordid nightlife, drunken buffoonery, and (I kid you not) skinheads on bicycles. *shudders* For what it's worth, some of the richer neighborhoods are really beautiful. And our Taxi driver was a helluva nice guy (no generalizations regarding the locals here).

I've been getting faux-PayPal shit--with astonishing frequency--for a couple years now. What I always do is go to PayPal and open up my actual account to check for any unusual activity... and there never is any.

There might be something I've been missing, but I really can't get into a lot of his "vocal" work. I think he's a fine poet and songwriter--and a vibrant proto-rapper--but this album is one of those instances for me where about half of the interpretations, heartfelt as they are, really don't click. I like "Pieces of A Man". tho.

Strangely though, Mike has confirmed that he doesn't much like this album. Personally, I love it ! It seems to successfully soak in some of the rock, soul and folk influences of the time. I think the soloing is terrific, even if the "poppiness" of the arrangements threw me for a loop on 1st listen. Love to MO, and Nisar Ahmed/George Khan is a seldom-heard light on the UK scene.

Good going, ubu. Here's a picture identified as Mackay Davashe:

What's up with that movie? A rock opera western? Acid is a helluva drug! From an IMDB blurb (re: Zacharia): Gunfights and electric guitars in the Old West? You bet! Zachariah gets a mail order gun, practices a little, and kills a man in the local saloon. He and his friend Matthew set out to become gunfighters, joining with the Crackers, a rock band who are also (pitifully inept) stage robbers. Having quickly outgrown that gang, Zachariah and Matthew set out to become bigtime gunslingers. Before long, they part company and a rivalry grows between them. -I guess Elvin had an acting gig.