The Magnificent Goldberg

Nice idea. Here's one I posted earlier MG

Air Light Swingsters - Umhlobo'mdala - Masterpiece 1981 Sir Waziri Oshoma & his Family - United band of Afenmai Nigeria - Decca (West Africa) 1973 Lou Donaldson - Wailin' with Lou - Blue Note 1957 And a Happy Birthday to Lou!!! MG

Ahhhhh! MG Oh, I thought you said dentist !!!

The discussion about Stanley Turrentine started me thinking about all those guys who worked with Earl Bostic. So I thought I'd list them by session. The list goes from his first session as a leader to the point at which he appeared to have stopped touring. And as I was copying the info from Lord, I kept saying Jesus Fucking Christ, not HIM too!!! Majestic sess Nov-Dec 1945: Roger Jones, Dick Vance, Benny Harris (tp) Claude Jones, Benny Morton (tb) Eddie Barefield (cl) Earl Bostic (as,vcl) Don Byas, Walter "Foots" Thomas (ts) Ed Finkel (p) Tiny Grimes (g) Al Hall (b) Cozy Cole (d) Gotham starts c Mar 1946: Lemon Boler (tp) Tony Scott (cl) Earl Bostic (as,vcl) John Hardee (ts) George Parker (p) Jimmy Shirley (g) Jimmy Jones (b) Eddie Nicholson (d) c Jul 1946: same pers mid 1947: Roger Jones (tp) Rudy Powell (as,cl) Earl Bostic (as) Ted Barnett (ts) George Parker (p) Jimmy Shirley (g) Vernon King (b) Chick Cruickson (d) c Jul 1947: same pers 1947: Bostic, rest unknown late 1947: Earl Bostic (as) George Parker (p) Vernon King (b) Shep Shepherd (d) prob late 1947: Roger Jones (tp,vcl) Earl Bostic (as) Ted Barnett (ts) George Parker (p) Vernon King (b) Shep Shepherd (d) prob late 1947: same pers King starts 12 January 1949: Roger Jones (tp,vcl) Earl Bostic (as,vcl) Lowell "Count" Hastings (ts) Jaki Byard (p) Vernon King (b) Shep Shepherd (d) 13 January 1949: same pers 28 May 1949: Rufus Webster (p) Keter Betts (b) replace Jaki Byard, Vernon King 8 Aug 1949: same pers 23 Mar 1950: Earl Bostic (as,vcl) Lowell "Count" Hastings (ts) Gene Redd (vib) Cliff Smalls (p) Al Casey (g) Keter Betts (b) Joe Marshall (d) Helen Young (vcl) 13 Oct 1950: Edward Barefield (g) replaces Al Casey 10 Jan 1951: Gene Redd (tp,vib) Earl Bostic (as) Lowell "Count" Hastings (ts) Cliff Smalls (p) Rene Hall (g) Keter Betts (b) Jimmy Cobb (d) Clyde Terrell (vcl) 23 Jan 1951: same pers 4 Oct 1951: Earl Bostic (as) Buddy Miles (as,bar) Wilbur Campbell (ts) Gene Redd (vib) Cliff Smalls (p) Ike Isaacs (b) Jimmy Cobb (d) unknown (vcl) 7 Apr 1952: Blue Mitchell (tp) Earl Bostic (as) Pinky Williams (as,bar) John Coltrane (ts) Gene Redd (vib) Joe Knight (p) Jimmy Shirley (g) Ike Isaacs (b) Specs Wright (d) 15 Aug 1952: Harold Grant (g) replaces Jimmy Shirley 17 Dec 1952: Blue Mitchell (tp) Earl Bostic (as) Ray Felder (ts) Gene Redd (vib) Joe Knight (p) Mickey Baker (g) Ike Isaacs (b) George Brown (d) Bill Williams (vcl) 6 Jun 1953: Blue Mitchell, Tommy Turrentine (tp) Earl Bostic (as) Stanley Turrentine (ts) Luis Rivera (p) Herman Mitchell (g) Mario Delagarde (b) Albert Bartee (d) 24 Aug 1953: Blue Mitchell, Tommy Turrentine (tp) Earl Bostic (as) Stanley Turrentine (ts) Edward Richley (vib) Alexander Sample (p) Charles Grayson (g) Bob Breston (b) Granville T. Hogan (d) 4 Oct 1953: Blue Mitchell, Tommy Turrentine (tp) Earl Bostic (as) Stanley Turrentine (ts) Stash O'Laughlin (p) Clarence Kenner (g) George Tucker (b) Granville T. Hogan (d) 27 May 1954: Blue Mitchell, Eldridge Morris (tp) Earl Bostic (as) Stanley Turrentine (ts) Stash O'Laughlin, Celia Lopez (p) Mitchell Webb (g) George Tucker (b) Granville T. Hogan (d) Bob Bustamente, Bill Gallardo, Jose Mendoza (perc) Sonny Carter (vcl) 8 Oct 1954: Blue Mitchell, Eldridge Morris (tp) Earl Bostic (as) Benny Golson (ts) Teddy Charles (vib) Stash O'Laughlin (p) Jimmy Shirley (g) George Tucker (b) Granville T. Hogan (d) 9 Oct 1954: Sonny Carter (vcl) added 27 Jan 1955: Elmon Wright, Johnny Coles (tp) Earl Bostic (as) Benny Golson (ts) Teddy Charles (vib) Stash O'Laughlin (p) Jimmy Shirley (g) George Tucker (b) Granville T. Hogan (d) Sonny Carter (vcl) 4 May 1955: Elmon Wright, Johnny Coles (tp) Earl Bostic, Benny Carter (as) Benny Golson (ts) Frank Flynn (vib) Stash O'Laughlin (p) Ulysses Livingston (g) George Tucker (b) Granville T. Hogan (d) + strings. 11 Jan 1956: Elmon Wright, Johnny Coles (tp) Phil Olivella (cl) Earl Bostic, Hymie Schertzer (as) Benny Golson (ts) Stash O'Laughlin (p) George Barnes (g) George Tucker (b) Granville T. Hogan (d) Kenneth Tyler (perc) + strings. Now recording in Los Angeles 19 Apr 1956: Earl Bostic (as) Bill Doggett (org) Billy Butler (g) George Tucker (b) Shep Shepherd (d) 23 Apr 1956: Elmon Wright, Johnny Coles (tp) Earl Bostic (as) Benny Golson (ts) Larry Bunker (vib) Stash O'Laughlin (p) Barney Kessel (g) George Tucker (b) Ralph Jones (d) Kenneth Tyler (perc) Except for Jewel Grant, Earl's not using his own guys at all from now on. Had he quit touring? 2 Feb 1957: John Anderson, Ronnie Lewis (tp) Earl Bostic, Jewell Grant (as) Bill Green (as,bar) Teddy Edwards (ts) Larry Bunker (vib) Charlie Lawrence (p) Adolphus Alsbrook (b) Roy Porter (d) Billy Jones (vcl) 28 Feb 1957: Irving Ashby (g) added, unknown vcl group added- , Lou Singer (vib) replaces Larry Bunker Billy Jones acc by Earl Bostic and his Orchestra: 1 May 1957: similar pers. (Billy Jones acc by Earl Bostic and his Orchestra) 24 Jul 1957: Joseph Dolny, Art DePew (tp) Earl Bostic, Jewell Grant (ts) Tom Suthers, Bill Green (ts,bar) Elmer Schmidt (vib) Charlie Lawrence (p) Rene Hall (g) Adolphus Alsbrook (b) Earl Palmer (d) 25 Jul 1957: same pers 18 & 19 Dec 1957: Earl Bostic (as) Wallace Snow (vib) Ernest Crawford (p) Tony Rizzi (g) H.J. Timbrell (b) Earl Palmer (d) 30 Jan 1958: Earl Bostic (as) Elmer Schmidt (vib) Charlie Lawrence (p) Tony Rizzi (g) H.J. Timbrell (b) Earl Palmer (d) 26 Feb 1958: Earl Bostic (as) Elmer Schmidt (vib) Fletcher Smith (p) Allan Seltzer (g) Margo Gibson (b) Earl Palmer (d) 8 May 1958: Earl Bostic (as) Gene Redd (vib) Fletcher Smith (p) Allan Seltzer (g) Margo Gibson (b) Charles Walton (d) 9 May 1958: same except Gene Redd (vib,tp) Back to the Midwest - Cincinnati or Chicago 14 & 15 Jul 1958: Earl Bostic (as) Gene Redd (vib) Fletcher Smith (p,org) Allan Seltzer (g) Edwyn Conley (b) William Erskine (d) 7 Oct 1958: Earl Bostic (as) Claude Jones (p,org) Johnny Gray (g) Johnny Pate (b) Alrock Ducan (d) Frank Rullo (perc) 10 Oct 1958: Isaac "Red" Holt (d) replaces Alrock Ducan, Allan Seltzer (g) added 20 Oct 1958: Herb Gordy (b) Walter Perkins (d) replace Johnny Pate, Isaac "Red" Holt Way out west again 1 Dec 1958: Earl Bostic (as) Elmer Schmidt (vib) Hal Hidey (p) Rene Hall (g) Herb Gordy (b) Earl Palmer (d) 2 Dec 1958: same pers 3 Dec 1958: same pers 4 Dec 1958: Gerald Wilson, Oliver Mitchell, Joseph Dolny, Anthony Terran (tp) Earl Bostic (as) Ernie Freeman (p) Rene Hall, Allan Seltzer (g) Herb Gordy (b) Earl Palmer (d) 26 Jan 1959: Earl Bostic, Benny Carter, Jewell Grant (as) Bill Green, Plas Johnson (ts) Buddy Collette (as,ts,bar) Elmer Schmidt (vib) Sir Charles Thompson (p) Rene Hall (g) Herb Gordy (b) Earl Palmer (d) 27 Jan 1959: Earl Bostic (as) Elmer Schmidt (vib) Sir Charles Thompson (p) Rene Hall, Allan Seltzer (g) Herb Gordy (b) Earl Palmer (d) 28 Jan 1959: same pers 29 Jan 1959: George Roberts (tb) Lloyd Ulyate (tb) Bob Pring (tb) Hoyt Bohannon (tb) Joe Howard (tb) added Midwest again 25 Mar 1959: Earl Bostic (as) Roland Johnson (vib) Jon Thomas (p) Allan Seltzer (g) Herb Gordy (b) William Erskine (d) 26 Mar 1959: same pers 27 Mar 1959: same pers 28 Mar 1959: same pers 6 Apr 1959: Earl Bostic (as) Roland Johnson (vib) Claude Jones (p) Warren Stephens, Allan Seltzer (g) Herb Gordy (b) William Erskine (d) 7 Apr 1959: same pers 8 Apr 1959: same pers 13 & 14 Apr 1959: same pers 15 Apr 1959: same pers 4 Jun 1959: same pers 5 Jun 1959: same pers 8 Jun 1959: same pers 9 Jun 1959: same pers 10 Jun 1959: same pers 11 Jun 1959: same pers 12 Jun 1959: same pers 15 Jun 1959: same pers Big gap - into LA 12 Feb 1963: Earl Bostic (cl,sop,as) Elmer Schmidt (vib) Evelyn Roberts (p,org) Ernest McLean (g) Rene Hall (el-b) Sharkey Hall (d) 13 Feb 1959: same pers 14 Feb 1959: same pers 13 Aug 1963: Earl Bostic (as) Richard "Groove" Holmes (org) Joe Pass (g) Jimmy Bond (b) Charles Blackwell (d) 14 Aug 1963: Earl Bostic (as) Richard "Groove" Holmes (org) Joe Pass (g) Herb Gordy (b) Shelly Manne (d) 22, 23 & 27 Jan 1964: Earl Bostic (as) Richard "Groove" Holmes (org) Joe Pass (g) Jimmy Bond, Al McKibbon (b) Earl Palmer (d) 15, 16 & 17 Jul 1964: Earl Bostic (as) unknown (vib), (p), (org), (g), (el-b), (d) There's one more album, released on Philips in 1967, from unknown dates in 1965. I know nothing about this. Sleeve design is perfect Earl Bostic. MG

I thought he'd lost all his teeth! Well, a happy birthday to Lou. MG

Coming up to, and during, lunch Jack McDuff - The dynamic - Prestige 1964 Jack McDuff - Prelude - Prestige 1963 Toure Kunda - Sarana - Syllart 1990 Super Biton de Segou - SNAC 2001 - Mali K7 (2001 ) No image on web. MG

Nice thread. Stanley's first recording session was in 1950, with Ray Charles, for Swingtime. Here's the Lord entry. "Stanley Turrentine [C3828-12] Ray Charles Ray Charles (vcl,p) acc by Billie Brooks, Fleming Askew (tp) Earl Brown (as) Stanley Turrentine (ts) Maurice Simon (ts,bar) Eddie Lang (g) Frank "Naim Ahmad" McClure (b) prob Eddie Piper (d) unknown d, male vcl-1, band vcl-2 Los Angeles, 1950 274A+ Kissa me baby [All night long*](1) Swingtime 274, Festival LP103*, Locomotive (F)73702, Zeta (F)ZET707 [CD] Hey now Swingtime 297, Musidisc 30CO1232 362A The snow is falling (3) Swingtime 326, Coronet LP173, Locomotive (F)73702, Zeta (F)ZET707 [CD] 362A+ Misery in my heart [Goin' to the river*] Swingtime 326, Hollywood HLP505* I'm going down to the river (alt take) Festival LP103 Note: (3) Also issued as "Snowfall" and "I used to be happy". Although mentioned on the sleeve "I used to be happy" is not on Festival LP103. (4) Also issued as "Going down to the river", "Givin' it up" and I'm going to drown myself". Zeta (F)ZET707 [CD] as May/June 1951." Quite a nice band... MG

YAAAAAYYYY! MG

This morning's breakfast Les McCann - Tall dark & handsome - A&M 1979 With one of the great self-deprecation sleeves Omar Pene & Super DIamono - Tiki tiki - Syllart 1997 Milt Jackson Quartet - Prestige 1955 Now Jack McDuff - The concert McDuff - Prestige 1964 Next Charles Earland - Intensity - Prestige 1972 MG

Dakota Staton - Isn't this a lovely day - Muse 1995 King Bruce & the Black Beats - Golden Highlife classics of the fifties & sixties - Decca (West Africa) (Retro reissue) Now Dakota Staton - Dakota Staton - Muse 1991 MG

I doubt you can get the Msomi but it's uneven. Some tracks are great, others have a whining female vocal group. Even I don't like those tracks The Holmes is bloomin' fantastic. John Fourie worked for a long time in the USA and knows both kinds of music. He was the fuzz guitarist on Earland's 'Intensity'. The Cliffs album is very good. Coltrane's influence on Mankunku is pretty clear, which is a downer to me, but probably not to most people here. MG

Some township jive Groove Holmes - African encounter - Roots <1988 Reggie Msomi & his Jazz Africa - Swing Africa - Soul Jazz Pop 1976 The Cliffs featuring Winston 'Mankunku' Ngozi - Alex Express - RSTL 1975 MG

I don't think there's a pole star for this. You've got Lloyd Glenn, who was pianist/arranger for the Don Albert Orchestra in San Antonio in 1936 and conceived the classic version of 'The Sheikh of Araby (without no pants on)' for that band's only recording session (available on Lloyd Glenn, less than Chronological 1950-51), and who made a lovely version of 'Petit fleur' after it became a top ten hit for Chris Barber. But also made all those great R&B records for Swingtime & Aladdin, under his own name and working with people like Lowell Fulson. US black pop music is all one tripartite thing with the emphasis moving between blues, jazz and gospel music in different combinations at different times and in different places. Drawing firm lines is both impossible and silly. Suffice it to say that it all swings and gets people dancing. No matter whether a musician's main thing is blues, gospel or jazz, they've all got that dance thing in them if they're playing for an audience that came out for a good time. BUT, it's not silly to say that someone like John Lewis is sometimes a great blues pianist and sometimes feels like doing something else. And maybe something else is what he wants more often, though the MJQ often make me want to dance, and sometimes I do. (Difficult to dance in a posh concert hall without getting chucked out by the bouncers, however. But I've never seen the MJQ live, so it hasn't arisen.) MG

Oh, yes, I'd forgotten. You're right about Lewis. But about Ellington... dunno. He sounds kinda greasy to me most of the time, but I admit that there are big chunks of his stuff I just don't get along with, and lots I don't try on account of cost. So if you don't like him being in there, OK. MG

Oh, I recommended it back in the day, eh? Whenever I see the name Milan Simich, I'm reminded of what Chewy said that Lou Donaldson said to him about the sleeve of 'Here 'tis'. "Em semmich". MG

Which just reminds me.... MG

Orlando Owoh in Great Britain - Decca (West Africa) 1972 Dakota Staton Live at Milestones - Caffe Jazz 1986 (issued 2007) Les Loups Noirs a Paris - Cleopatre 1976 MG

I've got Organic grooves and its follow up, Bongo bop. There was a bunch of that stuff being made around that time. The Chartbusters were another lot. Dr Lonnie' 3 albums for Venus with John Abercrombie were much in the same line. A few others. They all seemed like the people - all good players without a doubt - were trying too hard to impress. I've not flogged them, but I know I can do without them. The only one a really like is Akira Tana's 'Secret agent men', which sounds like the guys were just having fun with stuff. Also, I love Lonnie's heavy disguise on the sleeve. MG

Earlier Super Biton de Segou - Folikan - Beny Mariko 1988 This sleeve is a pirate, but it's what they've got on Discogs. The original is below: Spot the differences? Perez Prado - Havana 3 AM - RCA Victor 1956 Now Willis Jackson & Von Freeman - Lockin' horns - Muse 1978 next Milt Buckner - Locked hands - MPS 1968 MG

YEAH! And the one and only HERMAN FOSTER! John Wright Red Garland Norman Simmons Lloyd Glenn And what about Duke Ellington, for goodness sake? John Lewis, too, is a great blues player. Hank Crawford doesn't play much piano, but it's ALWAYS the blues sure 'nuff. Ditto Ray Charles. MG

I just completely LOST Joe Castro's 'Groove Funk Soul' album because I thought his name was Costa and couldn't for the life of me remember who the uninteresting (to me) UK musicians were on the album Collectables coupled the Castro with. OK, I DID remember his name eventually. But a curse be upon Collectables' name. MG

All the records we listen to are in the past. Only Chuck can ever hear music NOW, when he's recording it. Breakfast with the past Toto Necessite - Azoumounou - CIne 1982 (Cine is the name of the owner, a Haitian guy, nowt to do with the cinema) Atakora Manu - Disko Highlife - Ambassador 1981 (the Ghanaian label, not any of the others) Another from Ghana Jerry Hansen & the Ramblers Dance Band (under the pseudonym of Ramblers International) - Doin' our own thing - Decca (West Africa) 1972 Now Lionel Hampton - Bossa Nova Jazz - Glad-Hamp 1963 Another US album Ramsey Lewis - Bossa Nova - Argo/Cadet 1962 As a bonus, here's a link to a track from the Ramblers Int MG

Yes, I knew that, but spelled it wrong Sometimes my mind deceives my brian. MG

I really want to get a Gene Ammons biography, so I've been looking through all the Gene Ammons threads to see if there was one mentioned. And that was nearly as good as reading one (well, not really, but it WAS nice). So, IS there an Ammons bio? MG

This was the first version I ever saw - and I've got it still, I think, somewhere. I still think it's a great sleeve. MG