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After two years of having nearly all my 'classical' discs still in boxes from a recent move, I've been unboxing everything (finally!!) this past weekend. In doing so, I stumbled across Ornette's "Skies of America" and the Bluebird disc "Forms & Sounds" - which may be less well-known than "Skies..." (I suspect). And yeah, I had plum forgotten I even had these discs, cuz oddly enough I must have briefly had them filed in with my 'classical' discs for some reason, though I always remember having them in with the rest of my Ornette. By the way, in case anyone hasn't heard "Forms...", it is made up of the 21-minute title track for classical wind quintet (oboe, flute, clarinet, bassoon, and French horn), with 'trumpet interludes' by Ornette himself. And then two works for classical string quartet, "Saints and Soldiers" (20 minutes) and "Space Flight" (4 minutes). I'm listening to "Skies..." now, after not having heard it in two or three years. I had forgotten what an interesting recording this is. I go back and forth about it's worth as a true orchestral work, but there's something undeniable about it's impact, on purely aural terms ('viscerally' speaking). I'll get to "Forms..." next in my listening, but I remember it being a slightly thornier listen, if I remember right – harder to approach than "Skies..." – fewer themes, less 'tunes'. But "Skies..." really works for me, and I can't quite put my finger on why, hence this thread.

I don't think so. One on E. 4th and Broadway and one on the upper West side, 72nd and Broadway. But no Tower in Times Square. Obviously got my locations mixed up. Anyway, it was somewhere in NYC. (I've only been to NYC once, and it was only for 3 days.)

Anybody remember when Best Buy used to have quite a surprising number of imports in their jazz section??? Not Japanese BN's so much, but I seem to remember that I got quite a number of Japanese Miles CD's on Sony, of titles only available over there, before they ever came out domestically. (And even, occasionally, in Best Buys in places like Peoria, Illinois; or Davenport, Iowa -- neither of which are even towns with populations over 500,000) I'm not saying Best Buy's selection was ever incredible, but there was a time (10 or 12 years ago) when you could find quite a number of unexpected gems at Best Buy, for really half-way decent prices. Oh, this was a Tower thread, I almost forgot. Never having lived in a city with its own Tower, back during my College years (1987-1991), and even well into the mid-90's, I used to always love to visit every Tower I could get to (Chicago, Washington D.C., Boston, NYC, Austin, Toronto), and I'd always walk out having bought nearly $200 in discs, every damn time (even closer to $300 once, if I remember right). The Tower in Chicago (the one about 20 blocks north of The Loop, not the one downtown that used to be Rose Records), used to have THE best classical room I ever saw, anywhere. But those days are long gone. The last two times that I was in a Tower was in NYC (Times Square) in about 1998, and in London (Piccadilly Circus) in 2001, and neither time was the classical room really anything to get all that excited about. And the jazz sections were even worse. Seriously, I think I bought about $100 worth of discs each time, and really didn't have to throw back very much to get down to that amount. Though in Tower's defense, the Virgin Megastore in NYC (Times Square) had an even worse Classical room (than Tower). The one at Virgin was fairly big, but nearly everything was pretty much standard domestic issues. Sure, they had HUGE sections for mainstream composers, but those sections were that big only because they stocked nearly ever damn "common" title by those composers (so, pretty much everything that was in-print, but standard domestic issue). But nearly nothing in the way of interesting imports, or older stock that was technically out-of-print.

OK, now that I've posted to the thread, my post (above this one) appears to be the first post in the thread. BUT, I didn't start the thread.

What the heck??? When I bring up this thread, there are no posts in it, not even a "first post". The thread is just blank, expect it does have a title (and still has one when I bring up the thread). That's just wack!!!

Thanks Joe and Gary, I'll check those resources out today (this morning, probably), for sure!! (And I'm glad to see my work-around still works!!)

Got bit real hard by some spyware early last thursday (yeah, almost a week ago!!). Ever since, I haven't been able to bring up my brouser, without the session crashing immediately. FINALLY, just a few minutes ago, I found a work-around, sorta (and FYI, this is the first time I've been on the board since last Thursday!!!). Spybot clears out the problem just fine, but then every time I reboot, the problem is right back again (and I have to reboot, cuz Spybot can only clean up so much of the problem the first time it runs, since several of the registry entries can't be changed without rebooting (cuz they're "in use"). When I bring up the browser (IE), I get 'dll' errors, and they don't seem to be consistant every time either. Anyway, I think I've found a work-around, for the time being, but man -- this is a real pain in the ass. I've had my e-mail working just fine, and images populate in e-mail messages just fine too (for pics that aren't attachments, but are instead links to images out on the net). I just haven't had any way to get to any browser-based stuff, for over 5 days. Yuck!!!! For what it's worth, the Spyware that got me appears to be something called... CoolWWWSearch

Getting back on topic... And the link for this last one is bad, but there's still a thumbnail of it on google, which you can still sorta read...

Like everyone here, I wish all the best for you in your new adventures. Please check back with us from time to time. You're one of the kindest souls I've yet met on boards like this, and it was (and is!) always great to have you around. You will be missed, and please keep in touch!!

It's folks like Hardbop that I miss the least, when thinking back on the old BNBB. And there are more aspects like that to the AAJ board (Hardbop, and a few others like him), than there ever are over here. Hence, this is my Internet home, and I only lurk occasionally over at AAJ (I check things out there maybe twice a week).

IMHO, nearly 75% of their entire American Classics series is worth its weight in gold.

Yeah, anybody know???

EDIT: Hell's bells, the disc is available through CDBaby. HERE are the details, and some samples...

I'm pretty much mostly in the camp that likes "New and Old Gospel". Not that I would whole-heartedly recommend it to everyone, but for those with open-minded ears, this is a pretty darn interesting album.

Couldn't agree more. My uncle plays me bits of his Sandoval CD's every time I visit, and I don't think I've ever heard an inspired note come out of his horn.

One of my favorite threads on the old BNBB was the "underrated trumpeters" thread. So, let's start a new one. Who are some of your favorites, and please cite the specific recordings that you have (or have heard) for those of us wanting to track some of these players down. They don't have the be the very best trumpeters ever, just 'interesting' on some level, and deserving of a little more recognition than they normally ever get. Here's an obscure one that I rather like, which I'll mention by way of quoting myself from another thread...

Only Michael, and/or maybe Herbie, Jack, and Herbie Lewis know for sure. Here's more info about the 'trainwreck' than probably any one here has ever seen (or heard). (Weiss also talked about an unreleased Wayne Shorter BN sessiontoo.) The quote comes from this thread on AAJ, but I thought I'd preserve it here too, since threads can occasionally be deleted, posts edited, etc...

FYI, I got this in my e-mail earlier today...

I have an uncle that owns this LP.

You probably have a point there... From what I've heard on record, they never were much of a great live act. (Or at least I've found the live documents mixed, at best.) The two live CD's they put out in 1993 were only so-so (called "Paris" and "Show"). But there was a full-length 'live' EP in 1990, called "Entreat", which I like quite a bit better. It's made up entirely of live versions of tracks off "Disintegration". I think it was only ever available as an import -- got mine on eBay, where it shows up pretty frequently. (The same live cuts were also available, spread across multiple CD singles, at the time.) Still, much as I like my Cure studio albums, I would never would claim they were a great live band. (But if they came to Kansas City, I'd still probably half consider going to hear them, depending on ticket prices and such.)

Is there a cure yet for unintelligible presidents??

Joe Henderson - Porgy and Bess Not the worst thing ever, but it's the one Joe album that really doesn't do it for me.