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EDIT: Hell's bells, the disc is available through CDBaby. HERE are the details, and some samples...

I'm pretty much mostly in the camp that likes "New and Old Gospel". Not that I would whole-heartedly recommend it to everyone, but for those with open-minded ears, this is a pretty darn interesting album.

Couldn't agree more. My uncle plays me bits of his Sandoval CD's every time I visit, and I don't think I've ever heard an inspired note come out of his horn.

One of my favorite threads on the old BNBB was the "underrated trumpeters" thread. So, let's start a new one. Who are some of your favorites, and please cite the specific recordings that you have (or have heard) for those of us wanting to track some of these players down. They don't have the be the very best trumpeters ever, just 'interesting' on some level, and deserving of a little more recognition than they normally ever get. Here's an obscure one that I rather like, which I'll mention by way of quoting myself from another thread...

Only Michael, and/or maybe Herbie, Jack, and Herbie Lewis know for sure. Here's more info about the 'trainwreck' than probably any one here has ever seen (or heard). (Weiss also talked about an unreleased Wayne Shorter BN sessiontoo.) The quote comes from this thread on AAJ, but I thought I'd preserve it here too, since threads can occasionally be deleted, posts edited, etc...

FYI, I got this in my e-mail earlier today...

I have an uncle that owns this LP.

You probably have a point there... From what I've heard on record, they never were much of a great live act. (Or at least I've found the live documents mixed, at best.) The two live CD's they put out in 1993 were only so-so (called "Paris" and "Show"). But there was a full-length 'live' EP in 1990, called "Entreat", which I like quite a bit better. It's made up entirely of live versions of tracks off "Disintegration". I think it was only ever available as an import -- got mine on eBay, where it shows up pretty frequently. (The same live cuts were also available, spread across multiple CD singles, at the time.) Still, much as I like my Cure studio albums, I would never would claim they were a great live band. (But if they came to Kansas City, I'd still probably half consider going to hear them, depending on ticket prices and such.)

Is there a cure yet for unintelligible presidents??

Joe Henderson - Porgy and Bess Not the worst thing ever, but it's the one Joe album that really doesn't do it for me.

The Cure - "The Cure" (2004) Have to admit I'm really looking forward to this one. I've got nearly every Cure album since 1987 (and a smattering of those from before '87 too). For my money, every Cure album since "Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me" (1987) is a winner. (OK, probably not "Wild Mood Swings" (1996), but everything else is great.) There was also a 4-CD box-set of nothin' but b-sides just recently released too, which I suspect is quite good. (I've got a grey-market "greatest b-sides" disc, with most of the b-sides from the "Kiss-Me/Disintegration/Wish" era, which are really great.) And I hear that Rhino is going to start releasing the entire Cure catalog, with bonus discs of extra material (b-sides, live, demos, etc...), in much the same way as they've done for the Elvis Costello catalog. Let's hear it for one of the great misanthropes (and song-writers) of our time, Robert Smith. Any other cure fans in the house??

Come on people, step up. This is a GREAT disc.

He isn't listed on any recordings after 1967 (he's on Donald Byrd's Blackjack), but then no mention after that (of course, I'm looking at the AMG, which is far from complete).

Ain't that the truth. I've almost bought this one three or four times. Every time, I'm always at a store where I can sample it first (usually I'm finding it used), and every time I listen, and can't stand the sound. Probably worse that Stanley Cowell's "Brilliant Circles", now that I think about it. And before having "Turkish Women..." pointed out to me, here in this thread, I'm not sure I could have ever thought of a modern (post-1950) studio date that sounded any worse than that Cowell date. But "Turkish Women..." may, indeed, be worse. I just can't bring myself to buy it, try as I might.

Slow here too...

If you could snap your fingers and GREATLY improve the sound quality of any one single recording, what would you pick??? >> A particular bootleg that you love, despite the fact it really sounds like crap?? >> A great commercial recording that has just never been issued on CD with decent sound, for some weird reason or another?? (Maybe it's only been released on CD one time, in the late 80's, and is REALLY overdue for a remastering job.) >> Or a great commercial recording that they just plain f*cked up in the first place, so much so that even the original vinyl sounds like crap -- but you love the recording never the less. (Or maybe some category I'm overlooking.) What would you pick??? Me?? Maybe this... I've never heard the vinyl, but I'm told the sound quality of it is pretty much just as bad as the it is on CD. I doubt we'll ever hear this album with any better sound, but if I could 'snap my fingers' -- oh to hear Woody and Tyrone on a truely 'progressive' date, with really clear sound. PS: Your choices don't have to be jazz.

1965 to 1970 is probably my favorite half-decade of jazz (I know, that's six years, so sue me ). I certainly don't like everything recorded during this era, but the quirky "inside/outside" stuff that I like the most, seems to come from these years. You know, 'progressive', but not quite 'free', and sometimes 'groovy', or 'progressive' and 'groovy' at the same time!! What are some of your favorite 'underrated' recordings from the last half of the 60's?? (Let's leave BN out of the mix, for the most part, cuz in varying degrees, we've all been there, and done that.) And yeah, let's include 1970 too. Or heck -- how about the really early 70's too -- in so much as the suggestions fit in with the rest of the discussion. (Absolute cut-off is about 1975.)

Thanks for the offer, but I think I'll pass. (Anybody else here, feel free to snap it up.)

Great to have you back, Pete. Stick around, and join the party.

Loni Anderson got all the oogling, but the gal I was really sweet on, on WKRP, was Bailey Quarters!! (played by Jan Smithers)

Played strip-poker back in the spring of 1992, with a mixed (mostly female ) group of American students when I was in Besançon, France - while visiting my girlfriend (at the time) for a week, who was on a study-abroad program for one year during her Junior year of college. Don't let your imaginations run too wild (the only Poker that was played was the card game), but I did manage to bluff far better than I had ever expected to, on several very key hands. B) Thank god for cheap French wine. (And, AFAIK, that's the last time I ever played Poker.)

You know, other than feedback from Tom (tomatbluenote), there's not a damn thing I miss about the old BNBB. And frankly, this place has everything I liked about the BNBB (and more of it too!!), and less of the stuff I didn't like (and usually a lot less!!). And as long as several of us can manage to get Michael's ear through the Mosaic e-mail route every now and then, that reduces the need for Tom, for the most part anyway. The overall civility on this board (most days), is downright amazing (the politics forum, notwithstanding ).