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Just stumbled on a good interview with Andrew Hill that I hadn't seen before, so I thought I'd better post it here. If there are any other Hill interviews to be found, please post them here in this thread. Thanks!!! PS: I know of a few others ("Fireside Chat" is one), and I'll try to post them here too, when I get the chance. Just wanted to go ahead and post this one, before I lost the link. Source: The Jazz Journalists Association -- at jazzhouse.org

Seriously, all hyperbole aside, I've heard this disc 50 times or more since I got it -- and I hear new things in it every time I put it on. IMHO, this is one of Osby's finest discs, in his entire career. And right now half.com has a whole mess of them in the $4 to $6 range (not including shipping). Can't for the life of me figure out why this one didn't sell very well.

Greg Osby - Symbols of Light (a Solution) Man, if any of you don't have this one yet -- there's a ton of cheap copies right now at half.com: LINK. Warning, a few of them are promos (maybe in those cardboard sleeves, with no notes), but most of them are CD's with full packaging and such. Forget the review in the AMG (which sucks), this is a 5-star CD in my book. The line-up is Osby, Jason Moran, Scott Colley, and Marlon Browden (drums), plus a string quartet (that includes Reggie Workman's daughter Nioka Kim Workman on cello). Here are some random on-line reviews I've found: LINK #1, Link #2, Link #3, Link #4, Link #5. Samples of every track on the disc are available here, at Barnes & Noble's site: LINK for sound samples Check out the sample for track two especially (a Jason Moran tune). This is NOT your usual "with strings" kinda thing. You NEED this CD, baaaaaad!!!!!! Get on it!!!! PS: And for you folks overseas (who can't buy from half.com), keep you eyes out for this one. I see it on eBay fairly frequently (and always for cheap!!), and it's gotta be available (used and cheap) from some of the more Euro-centric on-line used-CD sources.

OK, I had this big idea for a thread all thought out as I was driving back from St. Louis on Sunday. And, of course, now I can't remember even half the details. But before I forget to even start the thread, here goes... What are all the non-standard "saxamaphone"-like instruments that have been used and/recorded on over the years??? And who are the guys who have invented/developed them, and recorded with them??? I know, many of them are home-made (non-standard) instruments, but some of them were given semi-official names (at least by their creators, Roland Kirk comes to mind). AND, since a good number of them (or at least the best known ones) were developed and/or "found" by Roland Kirk, let's open this same discussion/thread up to the topic of playing two (or more) saxes at the same time, like Kirk and George Braith are probably the best known for. >> Are there any other guys who are semi-well-known for playing 2 or more saxes at the same time??? >> Does anybody have any pics of the two saxes that Braith supposedly welded together into one instrument?? I can't remember if there's a pic of it/them in the complete BN Braith Conn (and I don't know where mine it at the moment, it's around here somewhere). There's a guy here in Kansas City (Mark Southerland) who plays alto and tenor together at the same time, and does a GREAT job with it (as well as Braith, to my ears). He also has several homemade sax-like horns, including a piccolo body that he's grafted a soprano sax mouthpiece onto. He can get a full range of notes out of it, but needless to say that they're not all "well tempered", if you get my drift. Still, he gets quite a range of expression out of the thing. I think it's the only such homemade instrument of his that I've seen, but I understand he's got others too. He plays in a band called Malachy Papers, and perhaps more frequently on the homemade instruments in a side-project of his called "Snuff Jazz". (Probably more accurate to say he co-leads Malachy Papers, for the record.) Anyway, post any and all pics of any homemade sax-related instruments here, and any info about multi-sax-playing guys you can think of, and (for you musicians on the board), any thoughts about the technical issues of any of these subjects.

Ditto. All our best thoughts are goin' your way, bud.

FYI, I see that there are three 'used' copies (1 "brand new" and 2 "like new") on amazon.com currently, all for less than $10 each. If anybody's interested, that's a pretty good price too. (There's a more recent Japanese issue too, but it's way more expensive.)

Thanks to couw for a reminder about this disc in another thread (Relatively-progressive piano trio recs in the 60's, And why none on Blue Note??? (1963-69)). I just found one real cheap at half.com ($10.32, brand new, still sealed, and that includes shipping). I'll let y'all know what I think of it when it gets here in about 5 days or so. Thanks couw!!!

Then again, there's the Chick Corea trio dates on BN from the very late 60's ---"Now He Sings, Now He Sobs" (1968), and "Song of Singing" (1970). (I thought of them just after I shut off my PC late last night - and am glad to see that nobody had mentioned them before I'm adding them here now.) Yeah, couw, I still need to get that Valdo Williams disc, couw - thanks for the reminder!! I keep forgetting about that one - gotta keep my eyes out for it when I'm on-line (cuz lord knows I'll never see it in a store). Here's another reminder to myself... Valdo Williams: New Advanced Jazz EDIT: I just found one on half.com, for $10.32 (band new, still sealed, and the $10.32 included shipping!!) -- so I just pulled the trigger on it. Should be to my front door within 5 days!! Thanks for the reminder, couw!!!!

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Yeah, I was half-thinking of catching them myself, for that Adams piece (something about Charles Ives, or so I read somewhere). But nothing else on the program was calling my name too loudly, and other priorities took over my evening. Wish I lived in San Fran sometimes. Their orchestra progams some seriously amazing stuff sometimes. They did a couple months of nothing but American composers a couple years ago - Carl Ruggles, Zappa, Roger Sessions, you name it. If I had been there, I would have been tempted to go to every concert!!!

OK, for forever it seems I have lamented the absence of a piano trio recordings by Herbie Hancock, Andrew Hill, and McCoy Tyner, during their "Blue Note" years (in the 60's). ( Sure, Andrew Hill did record a handful of tracks in the traditional piano-trio format -- a couple tracks on Black Fire, and few tracks here and there at sessions from 1965 and 1966 -- but never a whole "classic" piano trio album. Drat!! And sure, McCoy Tyner did record some trio albums for Impulse in the 60's, but none for Blue Note, and none during his Blue Note years - or at least none that I'm aware of. The only McCoy trio album from the 60's that I've heard is his all-Ellington album from 1964 - I suppose I should probably look for more though. ) Anyway, any thoughts as to why there are comparatively few piano-trio albums during the 60's?? -- particularly the mid and late 60's (my favorite timeframe for jazz) -- especially from those jazz pianists who were "relatively progressive" (meaning like Herbie, Andrew, and McCoy), as opposed to the really "hard core progressive" guys, like Cecil Taylor and Sun Ra -- and the more "inside" players, like Wynton Kelly -- or more lyrical guys, like Bill Evans. Or, perhaps another way of saying this is that I would kill to hear a good handful of trio albums by Herbie and Andrew (in particular), or McCoy, during their prime years (1963-69), for Blue Note. Seems to me that it would have only been logical for all three of them to have recorded in the traditional trio format at least a time or two (in the 60's). Any reason why that never happened?? (And it probably goes without saying -- if anybody has any suggestions for some GREAT "relatively progressive" piano trio dates from the 60's, lay 'em on me!!!! ) EDIT: I remembered last night, after I had already shut down my PC, the two Chick Corea trio albums on Blue Note, from '68 and '70. I mention them down below...

I've never cared all that much for the symphonies of Anton Bruckner (which, I gather, is what Bruckner's known best for - meaning his symphonies). BUT, I can tell you that Bruckner wrote some of THE most amazing choral music of any late 19th Century composer. His motets, in particular, are some of the most beautiful things I've ever sung, or ever heard sung. And another choral composer I really love is Francis Poulenc. The Poulenc Gloria is great fun to sing and hear, and his shorter unaccompanied choral works (without orchestra, just chorus) are really amazing to sing. As a rule, I normally hate singing in French (such a difficult language to sing in), but I never pass up the chance to sing Poulenc. His music is difficult to learn, with lots of ambiguous harmonies, but well worth the extra effort. And speaking of French composers, Claude Debussy wrote very little choral music (almost none), but his "Three Songs" (Chansons de Charles d'Orléans (3), song cycle for mixed choir, L. 92), is stunning. Again, I normally hate to sing in French, but love singing and hearing this one (three).

So, FFA -- on the subject of your wife playing trombone too... How are her jazz chops?? And how are your 'classical' chops??

The problem with having to order everything on-line, is that you rarely stumble on things that you otherwise weren't looking for. Heck, probably 1/3rd of my entire CD collection is made up of discs (new and used) that I stumbled on in stores, and half of those (fully 1/6th of my collection) are discs I would have never ordered.

Moose, I think this is all probably your fault: Bizarre CD Organization, ...brings interesting neighbors

Next thing you know, they'll try to ban premarital interdigitation!!!

I love the Symphony of Psalms - and, oddly enough, it was the very first BIG choral work I ever heard performed live. I've had the good fortune to sing it twice in the last 10 years. Very powerful work. Also, the chorus I'm in did The Dream of Gerontius a couple years ago, and unlike on your side of the pond, Bev, 'Gerontius' isn't performed much over here. There are 120 people in our chorus, and there were probably 90 professional instrumental musicians on the stage too. And among those 200+ musicians, only three people had ever performed it before, prior to the production we did. Another great British choral work is Tippett's A Child of Our Time - which I understand is also performed much more frequently in the U.K. (and maybe also in Europe?), than it is here in the U.S. - which is a shame. Complex 20th Century harmonies, alternating with movements that are choral settings of traditional negro folk spirituals/hymns. Very powerful.

You know, when I just want to brouse for music anymore, I usually hit eBay or half.com. They're not perfect, but it's closer to the experience I'm looking for, than anything here in Kansas City. Often you find bargains (or auctions that could be bargains, if the bidding stays low), and you can often find sound-samples of the discs on Amazon's or Barnes & Noble's or Tower's websites. It's not the same, but it's at least in the ballpark. Doesn't get around the credit card thing, though. Dang!!

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I was in St. Louis last weekend - and stopped into Euclid Records (which is a sort of mini Jazz Record Mart - except Euclid also has great Rock and Soul/Funk sections, and a not-half-bad Classical section (at least for used Classical, I don't think they have much new Classical). I could have easily blown $200 in there without even trying. Here in Kansas City, there really isn't anything even remotely similar. I guess maybe the closest thing is maybe Music Exchange, or maybe Recycled Sounds -- but neither one can even hold a candle to Euclid. Plus, in St. Louis, there's also Vintage Vinyl, which has a TON of CD's. Their jazz CD selection is pretty good (though not as good as Euclid's), but their Rock/Pop/Alternative music section is fantastic (especially for promos and used CD's). Again, nothing even close in Kansas City. I hear ya, Peter, totally.

From Time to Time Free (CMP, 1988) Great disc, the only Joachim Kühn I own (other than the disc with Ornette). Wish I had more.

I was wondering about that, too. Does the board software block the Umlaut in topic titles? Go for it. Let's find out!!

Heard them here in Kansas City about 5 or 6 years ago, in a huge cathedral-like church with great acoustics (probably a 2-second reverb). Was pretty amazing. Not the kind of music I own much of (or any of, now that I think of it), nor do I have a burning passion to listen to around the house. But to hear it performed live, and in the right context - it's really something you don't quickly forget.

Not a bad idea, especially if you ever play your CD's in the car, or if they otherwise occasionally get scratched with regular use. Can't hurt!!

Dark chocolate - best thing ever!!!! Anybody here ever try to limited edition Dark Chocoloate Reece's Peanut Butter Cups?? They're fantastic!!!