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Well, that's for damn sure. And you've been there too, I presume. So you know first-hand how there's a slightly Wynton-esque quality about the American Jazz Museum. Nothing 'evil', mind you - but jazz does stop around 1960, maybe 1962 or 1963 some days.

What's your point?? I'm looking for a job. And I'm looking for a job I can actually do, and one that is a little more meaningful (at least to me) than what I did for the last 10 years. I'm also pretty "gun shy" about this "job thing" after the last 3 or 4 years of my employment experience, after having been pushed out by lots of people who were way more talented at the things I was trying to do. (My talents are just stronger in other areas, and I really wasn't cut out for the world of "software design".) In short, I could care less about the "free shit", in the grand scheme of things. I want to find something worth doing, that pays at least a little bit, something decent --- so I can contribute some towards my mortgage payment, which my wife has been paying 100% since the beginning of 2003, along with paying for everything else So, Mr. Free Shit, what's you point??

No shit!!

Oh, one other little thing. And perhaps this won't matter one tiny bit. Or perhaps it might. The American Jazz Museum is located down at 18th & Vine, in the historically Black neighborhood where all the clubs were that Charlie Parker, and Count Basie, and hundreds of other musicians played in the 40's and beyond. And, my perception of the Museum is that 70% or 80% (or 90%??) of the employees there are African American, particularly those in leadership/management positions (nearly everyone, best as I can tell). I'm NOT suggesting there would be any reverse descrimination going on in their hiring practices there, but it is possible. (Oh, by the way, I'm white - I think you all know that.) And, I might add, I don't think it would be that suprising if there were such hiring practices going on -- nor do I think that this is necessarily the worst thing that one could imagine happening. Anyway, this kind of job would be challenging, on a number of levels, including the race issues I might face. (Which, come to think of it, might be very interesting -- and might give me an opportunity to learn quite a bit about race relations, a subject I'm pretty interested in as well.) Anyway, I DON'T want to make this the focus of this thread, but I did think I'd better mention it, if for no other reason than perhaps some of you might have some advice for me, specifically in terms of how to handle myself during the interview process.

OK, as many of you know I've been job-hunting and career-hunting (really, that describes it better), for about a year. (You can read all about my background, and my career-search, HERE in this other thread I started back in December. Anyway, just in yesterday's Employment section of the Kansas City Star, I noticed this job listing (I believe that this was the first time it was listed too)... Nothing more about the specific job description, but here’s the “Education” page from the American Jazz Museum’s web-site... (General site link: HERE, then click on "Education" - or see the quote below): Now, truth be told, I really don't have the "work experience with children" thing on my resume. BUT, I certainly think I have enough subject-matter expertise to do this sort of job. And, my skill-set is varied and robust enough to probably handle it too. Also, I think I can provide half-a-dozen local references, who can speak to the depth of my jazz knowledge. (And by references, I mean notable local jazz musicians, and a couple other influential folks on the jazz scene – all of whom I've known for years, and perhaps more importantly, who are all well known and very well respected in the Kansas City area.) At the very least, I'm hoping I can get an interview. This would be a HUGE departure from my prior work experience, given that I worked for 8+ years in computer software development, as a business analyst (I wasn't a technical guy, and did very little programming). But I've been looking to get into some sort of meaningful not-for-profit work, and my wife and I are big fans of museums (we go in nearly a dozen every year, and some years more!!), and I've given some very serious thought to some sort of museum-related job, either doing development work, or something related to being a museum curator, or similar museum-related work. My first bachelor's degree is in Computer Science, but I also have a second bachelor's degree in Music. (Not a double major – they are two separate degrees, the first one I complete in 1991, and the second one in 1993.) Anyway, what's the general reaction of the board to this idea?? I'm sure the pay won't be great, but honestly – I’ve been looking more for meaningful work, than in any way trying to approximate my prior salary. Anybody got any guesses as to what a job like this might pay?? I'm hoping it's at least in the upper 20's, or maybe even in the low 30's. (That's less than half of what I made before – but them days is long gone.)

Don't own a single Stones album (CD, whatever), cuz I'm just not that much of a big fan (especially of the 60's material - which I heard too much of on AOR radio as a kid during junior high and high school, all through the 80's). BUT, that said, there a plenty of individual songs that I like pretty well - and my favorite (oddly enough) is probably "Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)" off Goats Head Soup, so that's the album I'm voting for in this poll. NOTE: I do, however, own all of Keith Richards' solo albums from the late 80's and early 90's (two studio, and one 'live' one), and his first solo album "Talk is Cheap" is one hell of a disc. The others have their moments too, particularly the 'live' one. Believe it or not, I probably haven't specifically heard any Stones (other than what I might happen to hear on the radio, maybe once or twice a year) in nearly 10 years. Just never did float my boat, what can I say.

Kansas City here. You can catch local guys playing (somewhere) practically every day of the week. The best club in town (The Blue Room) is open Mondays (jam night), plus Thursday, Friday and Saturday. No cover on Mondays and Thursdays, and only $5 on Fridays and Saturdays -- unless they have a special act playing, but then the cover is anything from $10 (for obscure guys from out of town), on up to $20 (the usual), or maybe $25 (about the most I've ever seen here). There are perhaps 2 other clubs that have live music 6 or 7 nights a week (nearly all local musicians), and a number of other clubs that book local acts 2 or 3 nights a week (usually Thu-Sat). I wouldn't call the scene in Kansas City "robust", but I guess it's at least "pretty decent", and there are easily 4 to 8 dates per month that I should really get out to hear (though I'm only usually out there for 2 or 3, or maybe 4 every once in a while). Things could be better, but they could be worst too. Edit: I should also mention that there a couple atypical jazz venues where some really exciting stuff happens once or twice a month. One coffee shop down in the Rivermarket area (they also sell beer in the evening - I think), that books this GREAT progressive trio (sax, bass, drums) about once a month. And then there's a coffee-house in the Westport area with a small theatre in back that seats maybe 80 (in old movie-house seats), and they book more progressive jazz stuff too, maybe once or twice a month. And maybe one or two other non-typical ventues programming some seriously creative stuff too, on rare occasion. Edit #2: I'll be currious to hear from all the other Kansas City folks here on this board, about what they think of the scene here in KC. One's a top-drawer (first call, IMHO) musician, and another's very well connected with the KC jazz scene -- so their opinions on this topic will probably be worth a touch more than mine. (And, of course, from anyone else from KC, or who used to live near KC recently -- you know who you are.)

Wouldn't surprise me a bit if Teo said something like this. He has said publicly that releasing the Miles box sets with all those previously unreleased takes was wrong, wrong, wrong. He would maybe be half right when it comes to that last disc (#6) in the "Miles & Gil" Evans set. BUT, he was saying it specifically about the most recent "Jack Johnson" set, and it's multiple hours of unreleased material. (And he never mentioned the "Miles & Gil" set specifically (where the charge might hold a little weight), but was talking about the whole series, in total.) When it comes to the Miles catalog on Columbia -- basically, anyone doing anything different that what Teo did, is subject to criticism. KoB's speed/pitch problems are apparently in the same category.

I will be too. Please share here -- if you can, Chuck, or if you think it not unwise to.

I've loaned out a couple, a time or two. Not very often, and only to certain people. I think in most cases, it was before I had the hardware to burn CD's. I think now, I'd probably just burn a copy for somebody. However, I should add that one of the only people I've ever loaned a Mosaic to, was someone who loaned me a couple of their Mosaics one time too.

Quick answer: I've got the Miles and Trane box, and I've also got the gold disc from - what? - like 8 or was it 10 years go. You guys all know about all the different issues of things better than I do. All I remember is that (at the time) the gold-disc I got was the first ever speed-corrected issue of KoB, which is the whole reason I got it. I figure I've got all the extra takes on the box (what few there are that have been released legit, complete takes or otherwise), and I've got the gold disc, when I just want to hear KoB in the correct track-order, as nature intended. I could care less about the "gold"-disc aspect of it -- I'd be just as happy with the standard new CD reissue, with the one bonus track. EDIT: I might have it on vinyl too, probably not in the best (nor worst) shape. A buddy of mine found a cleaner vinyl copy several years ago, and I think he gave me his old one. It's a columbia reissue of some sort, probably not the first pressing, but old enough to have the original cover art.

OK, I'll come out of hiding and admit that I've been using ME (and I still use it!!) - cuz that's what came on my PC when I bought it (circa early 2000). My PC locks up a fair bit (upwards of once or twice a day - but then I'm on it all day, many times), and my hunch is that it's somehow related to my firewall (the free firewall by Zonelabs, per the suggestion of someone here on the board). About 50% of the times that my PC locks up, right after I reboot, the firewall indicates no internet connection is available, and I end up having reboot again a second time. Sometimes I get the blue-screen-of-death, but often my screen and mouse-pointer just freezes. Often the lock-ups happen when I have multiple browser windows open, or when I've been surfing for quite a long time with the same brower window, after having been to several dozen different pages (like when go kill an hour on eBay, and look at page after page after page of listings). When I'm actually working with a document of some sort (in Word, for instance), the mantra on my machine is 'save' early, and 'save' very often. Anybody here think my trouble is actually ME?? (I mean "Windows ME" -- though my trouble could just as easily be me. ) OK, granted, ME probably sucks, and it probably isn't doing me any good - that's probably true. BUT, is XP really all that much more stable?? I mean, enough to merit an upgrade, and (presumably) needing to upgrade other software products too (Office, etc...)??? Yeah, I'm probably just being lazy by not upgrading things. But my concern is that while things are far from perfect now -- that I'll encounter new issues (conflicts, whatever) with XP, that I'll have trouble resolving on my own -- and I guess maybe I think I'll be happier with the problems I'm currently having, than dealing with all the new problems I think I might have. ( How irrational is that!!! ) Oh, by the way, for what it's worth - I connect to the internet via cable modem, via Time Warner Cable ("Road Runner"). I do run virus protection software (Norton), and I know the automatic virus-defintion updates are happening regularly - so I don't think it's a virus that causing my lock-ups. But who knows what "tons of surfing" can do in terms of potential software/OS corruption (and screwing with registry entries). I know, I should probably know more about this stuff than I do (hell, I've got a damn 4-year degree in Computer Science that I got nearly 15 years ago), but to tell the truth - I have about zero interest in the technical aspects of computers, software, OS, and troubleshooting. I just plain suck at most of that, and all of my work-experience in IT was on the 'soft' side, doing business-requirements gathering, spec-writing, end-user training, and other more "non-technical" IT stuff.

Wishing you the best of luck on the new job, Connie. Hope it turns out to be a really good thing for you!!

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/21318.htm READY, AIM - FIRED By STEPHANIE GASKELL March 20, 2004 -- Virgin Atlantic Airways yesterday flushed plans to install a urinal shaped like a woman's mouth at its new executive clubhouse at Kennedy Airport. On the day a press conference was called by the National Organization of Women to denounce the urinals, Virgin Customer Service VP John Riordan announced the British airline was canning its plans. Riordan, who said earlier this week he expected the response to be "very positive" after the design was unveiled, issued an apology. "Everyone at Virgin Atlantic was very sorry to hear of people's concerns about the design of the 'Kisses' urinals to be fitted into our clubhouse at JFK Airport," Riordan said in a statement. "We can assure everyone who complained to us that no offense was ever intended. The urinals themselves were the idea of a female designer and we were therefore surprised by the reaction." Riordan said the company intended the urinals - which appeared as red lips shaped like a puckered-up mouth - to be "fun and quirky." But women's rights groups and several politicians weren't laughing. "It is a symbolic act of degrading and humiliating women," Rita Haley, president of NOW's city chapter, said at a City Hall press conference yesterday. Councilman Phil Reed (D-Manhattan), who learned of the about-face during the press conference, said he was glad Virgin changed its mind. But he questioned why the decision was ever made in the first place. "There was a mentality that said that was acceptable," Reed said. "What were they thinking? That's really the question that you have to ask. Or was it a publicity stunt just to get their name out there?" Reed said he wants an apology from Virgin owner and self-made billionaire Richard Branson. "I'd like to hear that from the man who flies around telling us that he's so wonderful and so brilliant," Reed said. "If he's hired somebody that stupid, maybe he should fire all of them." Councilman John Liu (D-Queens) said the company has a responsibility to set a standard. "This kind of action taken by a major company does lead to more misogyny in our society, it leads to potential violence against women and that's why this is so harmful," Liu said. "It's all meant in good fun, so they should not have any problems with their own face being on these urinals. I think that's what they should do," he said. The urinals were supposed to be installed in the men's room at the airline's new clubhouse - an upscale, 7,000-square-foot lounge that has a waterfall with a reflecting pool, a bar with a 42-inch plasma screen, a dining area and a bar equipped with four Sony PlayStations. It is open only to passengers on Virgin's new Upper Class suite service.

I don't know about "M"... "H" seems to be my jazz letter... Hill, Hancock, Henderson (Joe), Hutcherson, Holland...

Same place everyone gets these kinds of things. Google Image Search. CLICK HERE Then scroll down to the very bottom...

Which one do I have and perfer over all the others?? Why, this one, of course...

Love it when Free For All plays 'Old Folks' here in KC. Great tune!!

Modified the sub-heading of this topic. "The Blues Walk" is nearly "really good", and great at times. But "The Trance" is totally off the wall!!! Thanks Spontoon!!! Gotta get me my own "Trance" disc, and quick!! (Good thing I'll be drivin' by Euclid Records in St. Louis in about two weeks.) So, to recap -- me wants more Booker Ervin like "The Trance". Bring it on!!!!

For reasons I can't possibly defend, until just a couple weeks ago, I had never heard any of Booker Ervin's non-BN dates (meaning I only had "The In Between" and "Structurally Sound" - which I realize that one or both of them weren't originally BN titles). Anyway, I just picked up "Heavy!" a couple weeks ago, and I really like it. Then our own Spontooneous loans me "The Trance" and "The Blues Book" just today, when we met for lunch. I've only heard "The Trance" so far (it's playing now), but DAMN!!! -- what an AMAZING date!!!!! I'm about to put "The Blues Book" in now. So, I thought I'd start a Booker Ervin thread, just cuz I need to know more about this guy. ( Oh, I also have "Booker and Brass" - which I only sorta liked at first, but it's grown on me a bit more over the couple of years since I first got it.) But damn, "The Trance" has sure as hell got me in one hell of a trance.

Yeah, personally I wouldn't mind a bit if Berigan chose to delete this thread.

I had the exact same thought.

Well said, cow. HELLYEAH! - indeed. And that's why I wanna see it on paper. The 'head' to the tune tumbles and rolls, and bobs and weaves so much, but in such subtle ways -- that I really wanna see how it works technically. It can't be THAT complicated (we're not talkin' Zappa's "The Black Page" here, with it's triplets that are each further subdivided into 5, 7, and 11 notes each -- EEK!!! ), but there has to be some beautiful and musically-logical way that "Capra Black" weaves the spell it weaves. Maybe I will send Billy an e-mail after all...

Thanks everybody!!! Had a nice dinner with my sweetie (who happens to also be my wife), and we went and caught a couple sets from a local piano trio that was really on fire tonight. They even played "Beatrice" for me during the second set. All in all, a pretty good day. Thanks again!!