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Thanks couw. It's one of those books I'd love to read, but probably not enough to pay that much to own. I'll see if there's any way I can interlibrary-loan it through the U.S. public library system. (A long-shot, but who knows - maybe.)

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Arthur Foote: A Musician in the Frame of Time and Place - by Nicholas E. Tawa Product Details: ISBN: 081083295X Format: Hardcover, 368pp Pub. Date: September 1997 Publisher: Rowman & Littlefield Publishers, Inc. Series: Composers of North America Series Barnes and Noble is the only site I've been able to find this on (so far), but they want $62 for it (ouch!!) - or $58.80 for a used copy (also ouch!!). Anybody got any good leads for finding this book about classical composer Arthur Foote, at a more reasonable price??? (Yeah, yeah - I'd love to find one for $25, but I'd at least be happier if I found one for $40 or so.) Who is Arthur Foote - you ask??? Good on-line bio here: CLICK

A great picture from this site... Carmell with Charles Matthews in Kansas City, 1960 For Eric and Free For All (and anyone else who happens to be from Kansas City, or familiar with 18th & Vine), the small/short building immediately behind the mouthpiece of Carmell's trumpet -- is the only building still standing in that block. The photo was taken looking towards downtown (to the north-west of 18th & Vine), and that building was (as I undersand it) a barbershop - for years. I've read or heard that there was a pool-table in the back room of the barber-shop, and that musicians (including Charlie Parker) would often go there for chili and pool, after all the clubs wound down, around 4am most nights. Or at least that's what I've heard. Lots of other GREAT pictures of Carmell on the site: HERE

Yes, "Song X" is a good one too. Frankly, keep your eyes out for it 'used'. I don't see them 'used' in every store, but they aren't that hard to find either. (It's not like most of your typical Pat Metheny fans really like "Song X" very much. Hell, I LOVE Ornette, and I have to admit that I really have to be in the right mood for "Song X" --- though I totally love it when I am in that mood.)

I think the Nat Adderely thing has been released on CD, although I don't own it myself. Think I've seen it on-line, on CD though. I'm guessing probably the vast majority of Joe's "not yet on CD" material (mostly as a sideman) is probably from the 70's. I started this thread, by the way, because I recently stumbled on the Blue Mitchell 'Mainstream' LP at a friend's house (a guy with 10,000 LP's in his basement - unfortunately he lives 600 miles from me now), and I wasn't even aware that Joe was on this. And it made me wonder what other Joe was out there that I had never even heard of before.

I like "Body Meta", actually quite a bit. (I like it better than "Virgin Beauty" - not that they are an exact comparison.) But I really mean to say that "Body Meta" is NOT at the bottom of my list of Ornette discs, in my book. Frankly, the only Ornette CD (from his post-1975 years) that I would avoid is the "Naked Lunch" soundtrack. Didn't do much for me, and I'm normally a big fan of "third-stream" stuff like it sorta tried to be. Everything else is worth getting, though some are not worth spending lots of money for (meaning they're all good, but not all 'essential'.)

Meese (or is it Moosi?) must age slower than the rest of us people. (Though sometimes I feel like Roosters age more quickly.)

No shit!!

Here she was in high-school...

Another vote for "In All Languages". If you're based in the U.S. or Canada, be sure to check out half.com for some great deals on Ornette, especially his post-1975 CD's. Tone Dialing for only $6 (several copies) This is a very interesting disc, and well worth getting (I think). Virgin Beauty for about $7. Not my very favorite Ornette, but still a pretty solid disc, with Jerry Gracia on three tracks. In All Languages for $8.50 (and ignore that they display the wrong cover of this CD on half.com) Colors for $10 -- is just a duo disc with Ornette and Joachim Kuhn on piano, and is very good (recorded live, but the sound quality is perfect). Also, I want to give a BIG shout-out for James Blood Ulmer's "Tales Of Captain Black" from 1978, with Ornette. Only available as an import from Japan, $18 is a decent price for a brand-new copy, and this album is not to be missed. Frankly, I like this disc as much as any Ornette in an electric context. (And I say that not as a huge Ulmer nut, as this is my only disc with Ulmer as the leader. Ornette came to play on this date, and REALLY delivered the goods.)

Have you ever tried one??

Here's the main site for André Condouant, where all three of these come from... http://mitglied.lycos.de/condouant/

Wow, some excellent stuff to read, album covers (including repros of the back-covers in some cases), and some great pictures to see (especially in the case of Carmell). I'm afraid I'm a dumb-ass, cuz I've never heard of "Lou Bennett" before, should I have??? In any case, check 'em out!!! http://mitglied.lycos.de/condouant/CARMELL.html http://mitglied.lycos.de/condouant/LEO.html http://mitglied.lycos.de/condouant/LOU.html

This one is surely a bootleg recording, but it does date back to the LP era, and was 'released' on LP in the 70's (I think). I actually own one of these, oddly enough. The sound quality is quite good, but not quite 'great'. Quite a good performance of "Power To The People", which takes up an entire side (about 20 minutes long too). Don't pay a mint for it, but if you ever see it cheap - get it!!

Thanks b3!!! Come to think of it, I did notice that the error messages suddenly stopped (as I was exchanging several PM's with Connie500 a couple hours ago). Great news!!!!

The only "not on CD yet" recording with Joe that I can think of (off the top of my head anyway) is a Blue Mitchell album on the 'Mainstream' label, from the early 70's - that had Joe on it. I don't know the exact title (and not all of Blue's 'Mainstream' records have personnel listed in the AMG), but I'm guessing it's Vital Blue from 1971. (Somebody correct me if I've got the wrong one - which is quite likely.)

What recordings with Joe Henderson (either as leader, or (more likely) as a sideman), have NOT been released on CD yet??? (Or at least not on CD in the U.S.) Please list any and all that you can think of. And which ones are the best, most important, or most interesting and/or unique??? Thanks!!! -- Rooster T. PS: I realize that much of Joe's "The Milestone Years" box-set hasn't been released on CD as individual releases. I'm not really talking about that (in terms of 'not on CD' yet). I'm talking about LP's that have never been issued on CD in any form (and can only be heard from an LP, or a tape/CDR of an LP). Thanks!!!

This "from Joel and the Cats" joke is getting old I fear... …but the birthday wishes (I assure you) are quite sincere.

I liked the 2nd (bonus) disc better than the first disc. I don't think The Three Sounds are particularly bad (and they're probably quite good for what they are), but they don't really excite me very much either. That said, I traded off my Conn of this to Connie500, and haven't missed it. Some people here probably love it, but it didn't really do all that much for me. The playing was certainly not substandard, but I did find it (especially the first disc, but at least half of the 2nd disc too) kinda 'snoozy' - as someone else here already said.

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Never heard of it, but I haven't really looked all that hard for other brands either. I can tell I probably need to check out a good liquour store sometime, and see what else is out there, in the way of other brands of hard cider.

Woodchuck Draft Ciders

OK, there are several serious beer connoisseurs here. What do they think, and everybody else too, about fermented cider?? Of and on for the last year or so, my wife and I have both really been enjoying a few different brands of hard apple cider. We had some on our honeymoon a couple years ago (we went to London and Glasgow), and had hard ciders of both the 'draft' variety (in a pub in London), and also in bottles (at Indian restaurants in both London and Glasgow). We've also tried fermented pear cider on a few occasions, and have sometimes like it as well (though it gets a bit too 'sweet' for my taste buds sometimes). The brand we've been drinking most lately (simply because it's the brand most consistently available at the grocery store we frequent) is "Woodchuck Draft Cider" (in bottles), produced by Green Mountain Cidery in Springfield, Vermont. I think the brand we had in London and Glasgow (both on tap, and in bottles) was a brand called "Strongbow". If you like fermented ciders, what brands do you like best??? I'm not much of a beer drinker (what can I say - I just never got the 'beer' gene), but I have enjoyed other kinds of alcohol over the years. Of the beers at the bar I worked at 10 years ago (as a bartender!!), I probably like "Killians Red" the best, but even then - I wouldn't ever drink it unless I was getting one for free. Any other drinkers here, who aren't very interested in beer??? I'm probably the only one, I'm guessing --- and the only bartender ever who really doesn't like beer. (Not even with food.)