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On the one hand, I also thought it was a very cool idea. But I've since done some searches for a couple books, where I pretty much knew what the title was (or what a few words of the title were), and I had a devil of a time finding the books - since I was getting SO many hits on books with those same works in the body of the book itself. Great idea, but they sure do need to do some fine-tuning with their new search engine. Or at the very least, make it an option to either search for key words within book content (and not just titles), AND give users the ability to search for keywords in the titles of books only. (In other words, some way to turn off the new feature.

I totally missed it too, so don't feel so bad. So, at least one person here (besides myself) really likes hard cider (Dicken's - or otherwise ). So fess up - who else (besides me!!) voted for the first choice??? And at least a couple people here like the stuff pretty well (it seems), despite their liking beer better. Any brands to suggest??

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Anybody got any more love for TALES OF CAPTAIN BLACK??? I had an extra copy of this on CD up until last week, but I just gave it to Free For All ---> so I expect a listening-report from him sometime (you dig FFA!! ) But from anybody else too. Sangry?? It's my favorite "Ornette" from the whole 70's, and I can't get enough of it. And why's that?? I'll give it a spin this week, and try ta lecha know!!

You know, if you go to the site - and read about four or five verisons of the page -- it all starts to make some sense, actually.

Can anybody find it on-line for less than $50?? That appears to be about the cheapest I can find, so far. Thanks!!

(And up for more commentary and/or votes.)

It'll be nearly a year before we ever see "Seven Steps to Berlin" released. The "Jack Johnson" box came out at the very end of September of 2003. I'd be shocked if we saw the "Seven Steps to Berlin" box any time before Aug. 1st. Just a hunch.

Oh my god - your Star Trek cat... ...turned into Abe Vigoda!!!!

Like Jim said, it's all good. (Well, except maybe for "Naked Lunch".) But seriously, of those that have been released on CD (I haven't heard any of the vinyl-only releases), all of them are pretty darn good. Or rather, not a rotten apple in the whole bunch. When's he gonna record and release some more????????????? The world wants more Ornette.

Up, since this will be happening within the next couple hours...

Thanks couw. It's one of those books I'd love to read, but probably not enough to pay that much to own. I'll see if there's any way I can interlibrary-loan it through the U.S. public library system. (A long-shot, but who knows - maybe.)

Link: The Postmodernism Generator Try it and see!!! Be sure to hit the refresh button a few times after the page comes up. It's all computer generated!!! (There are live 'links' in the above quote, which are at the bottom of the page that I provided a link to above.)

Arthur Foote: A Musician in the Frame of Time and Place - by Nicholas E. Tawa Product Details: ISBN: 081083295X Format: Hardcover, 368pp Pub. Date: September 1997 Publisher: Rowman & Littlefield Publishers, Inc. Series: Composers of North America Series Barnes and Noble is the only site I've been able to find this on (so far), but they want $62 for it (ouch!!) - or $58.80 for a used copy (also ouch!!). Anybody got any good leads for finding this book about classical composer Arthur Foote, at a more reasonable price??? (Yeah, yeah - I'd love to find one for $25, but I'd at least be happier if I found one for $40 or so.) Who is Arthur Foote - you ask??? Good on-line bio here: CLICK

A great picture from this site... Carmell with Charles Matthews in Kansas City, 1960 For Eric and Free For All (and anyone else who happens to be from Kansas City, or familiar with 18th & Vine), the small/short building immediately behind the mouthpiece of Carmell's trumpet -- is the only building still standing in that block. The photo was taken looking towards downtown (to the north-west of 18th & Vine), and that building was (as I undersand it) a barbershop - for years. I've read or heard that there was a pool-table in the back room of the barber-shop, and that musicians (including Charlie Parker) would often go there for chili and pool, after all the clubs wound down, around 4am most nights. Or at least that's what I've heard. Lots of other GREAT pictures of Carmell on the site: HERE

Yes, "Song X" is a good one too. Frankly, keep your eyes out for it 'used'. I don't see them 'used' in every store, but they aren't that hard to find either. (It's not like most of your typical Pat Metheny fans really like "Song X" very much. Hell, I LOVE Ornette, and I have to admit that I really have to be in the right mood for "Song X" --- though I totally love it when I am in that mood.)

I think the Nat Adderely thing has been released on CD, although I don't own it myself. Think I've seen it on-line, on CD though. I'm guessing probably the vast majority of Joe's "not yet on CD" material (mostly as a sideman) is probably from the 70's. I started this thread, by the way, because I recently stumbled on the Blue Mitchell 'Mainstream' LP at a friend's house (a guy with 10,000 LP's in his basement - unfortunately he lives 600 miles from me now), and I wasn't even aware that Joe was on this. And it made me wonder what other Joe was out there that I had never even heard of before.

I like "Body Meta", actually quite a bit. (I like it better than "Virgin Beauty" - not that they are an exact comparison.) But I really mean to say that "Body Meta" is NOT at the bottom of my list of Ornette discs, in my book. Frankly, the only Ornette CD (from his post-1975 years) that I would avoid is the "Naked Lunch" soundtrack. Didn't do much for me, and I'm normally a big fan of "third-stream" stuff like it sorta tried to be. Everything else is worth getting, though some are not worth spending lots of money for (meaning they're all good, but not all 'essential'.)

Meese (or is it Moosi?) must age slower than the rest of us people. (Though sometimes I feel like Roosters age more quickly.)

No shit!!

Here she was in high-school...

Another vote for "In All Languages". If you're based in the U.S. or Canada, be sure to check out half.com for some great deals on Ornette, especially his post-1975 CD's. Tone Dialing for only $6 (several copies) This is a very interesting disc, and well worth getting (I think). Virgin Beauty for about $7. Not my very favorite Ornette, but still a pretty solid disc, with Jerry Gracia on three tracks. In All Languages for $8.50 (and ignore that they display the wrong cover of this CD on half.com) Colors for $10 -- is just a duo disc with Ornette and Joachim Kuhn on piano, and is very good (recorded live, but the sound quality is perfect). Also, I want to give a BIG shout-out for James Blood Ulmer's "Tales Of Captain Black" from 1978, with Ornette. Only available as an import from Japan, $18 is a decent price for a brand-new copy, and this album is not to be missed. Frankly, I like this disc as much as any Ornette in an electric context. (And I say that not as a huge Ulmer nut, as this is my only disc with Ulmer as the leader. Ornette came to play on this date, and REALLY delivered the goods.)

Have you ever tried one??