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OK, I think this is a complete list of all the sidemen on Andrew Hill's released output from BN during the years of 1963-70. (I haven't included the 'voices', or the string quartet, or the two percussionists from "Compulsion". But I did include Bobby Hutcherson's "Dialogue" in my calculations - since it practically is a Hill album, in several ways.) 1.) Who do you think Hill brought out the best in??? Especially if Hill brought out a particularly interesting side of someone, that we otherwise didn't get to hear that much. 2.) Who do you wish Hill had recorded with more often??? 3.) And who's name isn't on this list, that you would have liked to have recorded with Hill, back in the day??? Sax Eric Dolphy Booker Ervin Joe Farrell (2 sessions) Carlos Garnett John Gilmore (2 sessions) Joe Henderson (3 sessions) Bennie Maupin (3 sessions) Frank Mitchell Pat Patrick Sam Rivers (2 sessions) Trumpet Kenny Dorham Freddie Hubbard (3 sessions) Lee Morgan (2 sessions) Dizzy Reece Woody Shaw (3 sessions) Charles Toliver (2 sessions) Bass Walter Booker Ron Carter (5 sessions) Richard Davis (8 sessions!!!) Eddie Khan Cecil McBee Victor Sproles Reggie Workman Drums Joe Chambers (4 sessions) Roy Haynes (2 sessions) Billy Higgins Elvin Jones J.C. Moses Idris Muhammad Ben Riley (2 sessions) Mickey Roker Freddie Waits (2 sessions) Lenny White Tony Williams other Bobby Hutcherson (3 sessions) Howard Johnson (tuba) Bob Northern (French Horn) Jimmy Ponder (guitar) Julian Priester (trombone)

Was just listening to the Andrew Hill BN discs with John Gilmore (Andrew!!! and Compulsion), and thought that this might make for an interesting topic. Anybody that ever recorded with Sun Ra is fair game - so that's a TON of people to consider. So... What are the best or most interesting recordings (either as leaders or as sidemen) that included people who played with Sun Ra.

I have a bunch of recent ones (that I've gotten over the last 10 years), but my favorite is the one my Mom personally got from Ellington, in the early 50's -- when she was in college.

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Just skimmed the PDF's (very, VERY quickly). Lot's of dry data, but the summaries of volume II and III, and the overall executive summary are kinda interesting.

SOURCE THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS RELEASES FURTHER DETAILS OF JAZZ MUSICIANS Washington, D.C.-The National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) today released further details of its extensive survey of jazz musicians titled, Changing the Beat: A Study of the Worklife of Jazz Musicians. The report contains extensive data from about 2,700 jazz musicians located in New York, Detroit, San Francisco and New Orleans. The survey was designed to provide an understanding of the jazz environment in each of the cities involved and to provide a detailed needs assessment from jazz artists. An executive summary of the report was released last January. JazzExecSummary.pdf "We hope this body of information will help those who appreciate and support jazz music better understand the needs of the artists who produce this uniquely American art form, which is central to America's cultural legacy," said Dana Gioia, Chairman of the National Endowment for the Arts. To compensate for the difficulties involved in identifying jazz musicians, survey targets were chosen from a random sampling of American Federation of Musicians members (AFM) and by Respondent-Driven-Sampling (RDS), an iterated chain-referral method that included both union and non-union musicians. Volume II of the report includes demographic information of the AFM respondents-such as age, gender, marital status, and education level-in addition to employment, benefits and income-related findings. Respondents also provided details of their worklife such as touring frequency, copyright ownership, and recording history. JazzII.pdf Volume III provides similar information about the RDS group. Both volumes also include an overview of the jazz scenes in the cities studied, as well as a breakdown of statistics by city. JazzIII.pdf Changing the Beat was conducted by the Research Center for Arts and Culture at Columbia University Teachers College under a cooperative agreement with the National Endowment for the Arts and the San Francisco Study Center. The survey was supported by the David and Lucile Packard Foundation, the Grammy Foundation, American Federation of Musicians, American Federation of Musicians Local 802, the New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Foundation, and the Nathan Cummings Foundation. For more information, contact the NEA Office of Communications at 202-682-5570 or visit the NEA Web site at www.arts.gov.

What if I asked him a fairly reasonable question that might allow him to save face, or perhaps even surprise me. (HA!!! – Who am I kidding!!!!) Anyway, how about something like this... "Mr. Marsalis. Your critics often cite your well documented opinions about many of the more 'progressive' developments in jazz since the late 1960's (for instance, Miles Davis going electric). 1) Do you feel that there are any widespread misconceptions about your views about modern 'progressive' jazz, and jazz-related-musics?? And... 2) would you mention the names of a couple 'progressive' jazz artists who's post-1967 contributions to the development of jazz have been important to the further development of jazz?? (in your own opinion)"

We all know what Wynton thinks of Miles in 1969, but I wouldn't mind hearing what he thinks of Larry Young's "Mother Ship". Would he be so quick to dis Lee Morgan for playing in such a "progressive" context?? Of course, I'm sure Wynton's probably never heard "Mother Ship", so I probably wouldn't bother to ask the question.

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From salon.com

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I'm thinking about going --- not to Wynton's concert that same night (I think it's sold out anyway, not that I was particularly interested). Still, for some reason I'm moderately curious about going to hear his lecture in the afternoon. If he takes questions after the lecture is over, anybody got any good ones for me to ask??? -- ( or especially any 'good' ones?? ) (I was gonna say that the college's warning that "space is limited" at the lecture, was possibly due to the size of Wynton's ego. ) Hey 'Free For All' - if you're free on Friday afternoon, wanna go???

This one sounds like it should go in the "Engrish!" thread!!!

AP story from CNN: click here

Brad Mehldau does a very good cover of Elliot Smith's "Bottle up and Explode!" (which was originally on Smith's 1998 album "XO"). It (the Smith cover Mehldau does) is on a promo-only CD of Mehldau tracks, which are mostly various tracks from his "Art of the trio" series, plus two tracks otherwise not available commerically: "Bottle up and Explode!" --- and also a solo-piano version of Radiohead's "Paranoid Android" (which I like a fair bit better than the version on Mehldau's "Largo"). Oddly enough, that was how I first encountered Elliot Smith's music, was from this Mehldau promo. On the strength of the Mehldau cover, I went out and "XO", but that's the only Smith CD I own (at least so far). Very sad news.

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