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Perhaps he didn't want to 'drop' the same names multiple times, and prefered to use the Osby quote - which would be understandable.

Yeah, I plan to order 6!! (cuz 6 is what'll get me free shipping from CDBaby), and I'll place the order within the next 7-10 days, or at least definitely sometime in August. Hey, you ought to start up a new thread specifically pushing people to order their Organissimo CD's during the month of August, if they were already thinking about it anyway. Let's get everyone who hasn't ordered yet to do so in August, to get you up there on the CDBaby sales chart, and on that promo comp-CD. And, maybe a carefully worded sales pitch on AAJ, maybe from somebody here who also posts there quite a bit, might also be in order. The key is to get somebody who's already relatively well respected on the AAJ board, to post the pitch - rather than an infrequent poster (like any of the guys in the band, or Use3D). That would reduce the perception of the pitch as "just being spam". Having a thread title like "shameless promotion alert", or something self-deprecating, always seems to help those things get noticed in a "less bad' sort of way. Who here is a frequent poster on AAJ?? I post there some (sometimes less, sometimes more), but I think there are others here who also post there more than I do. Just some ideas...

Well, now that all depends on whether we can we negotiate down that minimum number of discs I need to buy, in order to be absolved.

Hands down, my favorite Grant Green album is "Solid". But there are many Green albums that are nearly as good - probably at least 1/4th of his entire BN catalog.

Another young 'Hendersonian' tenor player: Aaron Stewart, who's on that Brett Sroka disc I'm pluggin' in another thread (the one with Jason Moran as a sideman). From the one full-length sample I've heard (from Sroka's disc), Stewart sure sounds like he's in the 'Henderson' camp to me - and he can't be over 30 is my guess.

Joe Henderson!!!

Check this out: "Happy-Go-Lucky-Ism" (6:20 - mp3 of the whole tune) Then this: "A Sound Caresses the Breast of the Negres" (mp3 - sample only) Then read some of this (by the way, I added all the bolding, sizing, and colors myself - but the text I lifted from his website)... Then get on it!!! Here's the guy's website: http://www.brettsroka.com PS: The tenor player on this disc, Aaron Stewart, is also on Andrew Hill's most recent big-band release "A Beautiful Day".

Thought of another young tenor player who sounds like a Hendersonian to me: Jimmy Greene, who isn't yet 30 (having been born in 1975). Actually, it wasn't so much that I thought of Greene, but rather I put on a recent Ralph Peterson quintet CD ('Subliminal Seduction', on Criss Cross), and thought "damn, there's another guy who's been listening to Joe Henderson" - and had to look to see who it was.

Who woulda thunk there's be such a clear picture of Lee with the bandage on his head, in one of the new RVG's!!!!! Man, the plot thickens!!! B) I don't suppose Michael would have any idea, by any chance?? If so - Kevin - could you mention some of this to him next time you trade e-mails with him, or talk to him by phone??

While I agree that Coltrane has been a HUGE influence on guys all through the 70's and 80's, I'm really looking for who is the biggest influence NOW, and over the last 10 or 15 years or so. All the guys you mention, Conn500, are all well over 40, and half of them are over 50. (I don't know how old Salim Washington is, afraid I'm not familiar with him.) But I looked up all the rest on AMG, and they're all older (or even "much older") than what I'm looking for. The cats who are 30 and under, or 35 and under --- those are the guys who I'm most currious about who their biggest influences are. I can only think of so many names, but Chris Potter turned 32 this year. There's Mark Shim, he's young enough. (Ravi Coltrane is creepin' on 40, so maybe he's outside of my range.) Joshua Redman is under 35. I'm not saying Coltrane isn't an influence still, but I think his influence is reduced somewhat from when it was THE dominant voice that everybody seemed to be reaching for in the 70's, and even the 80's. I voted for Joe Henderson. I hear him in Shim, Ravi, and even some in Potter (though less than the other two). I wish I could think of some other tenor players under the age of 35. There have to be some I'm totally forgetting. Oh, Mark Turner - he's another one who's got to be under 35, who I also hear some 'Joe' in, though I hear 'Wayne' in him too I think.

Can anybody provide a scan?? I'd love to see it. Thanks!!!

Couldn't agree more. The original version of Tommy, while it certainly does have it's charms, seems like "demo"-quality material to me, often. I even prefer the live version of Tommy from the '89 tour, which I know from the "Join Together" double-CD release. I know "Join Together" gets panned often, and the 2nd disc is kinda hit-n-miss for me, generally. But there's something about that original version of Tommy (the one in the studio), that never seems finished to me. AND, I should go on record as saying that it isn't that I've got anything against demos, per se. I love quite a bit of the material Pete's released on the various "Scoop" releases, which are all demos. I don't know, then, quite what it is then about the studio "Tommy" that just seems kinda 'limp' to me. Hate to admit this, but I've never heard the other live version(s?) of Tommy, which I do know exist, and I think even one or two have been released legally, correct? (Isn't there one from about '71 that's out as a legit release??) I like The Who and Townsend's solo work a fair bit each, but they just haven't been much of a $pending priority for me for several years.

Yes, this is the CD I have - same cover and everything. Sound quality is reasonably "OK" (though NOT great by any standard), though I recall the piano being the most difficult to hear. The horns are pretty clear, and that's what's most important (at least to me).

I have the "America" one on CD, as an French import if I remember right (not sure where the disc is presently, I'll dig for it - and see if I can find it). I found mine used about 8 or 10 months ago (in St. Louis), and I've seen it at least once on eBay - maybe about 4 or 5 months ago. I don't check for rare Ornette on eBay all that often, so I have no idea how frequently it appears there. But the one I did see on eBay went for chump change, like $7 or $8, plus postage -- if I remember right Keep your eyes out -- it's out there.

Sun Ra: Solo Piano, Vol. 1 - (IAI, 1977): 2-stars IMHO, it's quite a bit better than the measly 2-stars they give it. I'm not saying it's a 5-star album, but I'd probably at least give it 3 or even 3 and 1/2 stars. And then they give it's companion volume 4-stars (from a different reviewer). Sun Ra: St. Louis Blues (Solo Piano, Vol. 2) - (IAI, 1977): 4-stars

I hear some Wayne in Ravi, but I also hear quite a bit of Joe in there too. Ravi also covered Joe's “Inner Urge” (on his first album: "Moving Pictures") - although I realize that doesn't necessarily prove anything. In any case, the point is clear that Ravi has certainly taken influences from a number of other players besides his father. Gary Thomas is another guy I think has some serious Joe Henderson influence (at least in terms of tone, but also some in terms of playing too), who I think is a very underrated player. Though he isn’t always as consistently good as I’d like, sometimes I think Thomas is a monster!! And another odd name to mention here is Don Byron, who mentioned Joe as an influence when I heard a pre-concert lecture with Byron about 2 years ago. He was specifically asked about his influences, and the first non-"clarinet-player" name to come out of his mouth was Joe. I can't hear it, personally, but that's what Byron said - for what it's worth.

Yes, major congrats!!!

Thanks AB!!!! Never heard of David Sylvian before, but I'll keep my eyes out for some. Always good to see you posting on the board.

My wife and I both were in high-school in the 80's (me graduating in '87, and her in '86), so there's an automatic fondness for more "New Wave" pop-music in our household, than I probably care to admit to. Going back now, and looking for bands and albums I missed the first time - I just stumbled on the british band "Japan" for the first time today. Where should I start?? The AMG would seem to indicate any of these three... 1979 - "Quiet Life" (Caroline) 1980 - "Gentlemen Take Polaroids" (Blue Plate) 1981 - "Tin Drum" (Blue Plate) Are there any good compliations available?? ("Greatest Hits" packages?? - or maybe a good 2CD set with deeper album cuts too??) There are several comps listed in the AMG, but it's a little hard to tell what's what. ( And searching for music by a band called "Japan" is like next to impossible to do on eBay, let me tell you. There are like 4-million hits on the search key "Japan", even when just used in the 'title', and not the 'description'. )

Go to http://www.barnesandnoble.com, and do a search on "Roland Kirk Domino". Or click HERE (AMG Entry), and then click on this box within the review...

Go HERE, and click on the sample (RealPlayer) of the very last tune (track 25), called "Time Races With Emit". The sample is the entire tune (only 22-seconds long), as it was originally recorded. Programmed on the disc after a lilting ballad (the Koehler-Arlen tune "When the Sun Comes Out"), "Time Races With Emit" smacked me upside the head like nothing I've probably heard since I heard Larry Young's "Mother Ship" for the first time, sometime in early 2002. Yeow!!!!

Dewey's more "inside" playing is some of the best tenor playing I've yet encountered - right up there with my favorites like Joe Henderson and Wayne Shorter. Not to say that his more "outside" stuff is anything to sneeze at --- it's just that I think Dewey's "inside" playing is WAY underappreciated. Same thing with Sam Rivers, though there's less "inside" Sam Rivers on record, it seems.

I won't argue for my own choice until like a dozen or more votes come in, but I'm curious to hear what other people here think about this topic. In effect, I'm asking who is the father of "modern tenor playing", in terms of influence on the younger players of today.

By the way, I really appreciate Joe Henderson's name even being included in this poll. I realize he's not going to be a big vote-getter, and I couldn't even vote for him (nor has anyone else), but I do absolutely consider him to be in the same ball-park with all the great tenor players. He may not be the "objective best" tenor-player ever, but I suspect he will always be my personal favorite tenor player.

Actually, personally I think that review of "Smokestack" is really pretty much the same way I would review it -- and you all know I'm a HUGE fan of Andrew Hill. I've never gotten into "Smokestack" as deeply as many of his other albums. I don't think it's a bad album, but there's something about it that has always been difficult for me to really wrap my ears around.