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Doesn't matter too much - the guy who had one to trade, has it on hold for somebody else. Hope it does come out as a Conn sometime soon. I've never heard it, but I've got "Something Personal" and really like it, and the line-up on "Easterly Winds" looks outstanding.

Really?? Where'd you smell that??? And, what else is cookin'????????

Somebody wanna post then entire picture here, to this thread?? I ain't gots the disc, but me wanna see it bad!!!

Oh man, then I'm there too!!!

My point was that I was able to get a whole year's subscribtion to RS for less than the cost of buying 4 or 5 issues off the newsstand. Crazy!!!

Damn, that's 'spensive!! I usually only buy two issues of DB per year, three tops - off the newstand. I usually get the "Critics Poll" issue, and the "Readers Poll" issue, and then maybe one other issue - based on some great cover story that I just gotta have. I sent e-mail to Downbeat about two years ago (back when I think the subscription price per year was only like $26 per year), asking if they had any kind of mulit-year discount for subscriptions. You know, 5-year subscription for the price of 4 years. Or even a 10-year subscription for the price of like 6 years?? I wasn't kidding either. Back during my first year in college (1987), Rolling Stone had a deal where you could get a 5-year subscription for like 85% off the newsstand price (seriously!!). I was buying like 4 or 5 issues of RS per year (they publish like 24 issues per year), off the newsstand for like $3.95 an issue. And the 5-year subscription took the price down to like $0.57 an issue - chump change!!! Anyway, I was wondering if DB did anything even remotely similar. They never even replied to the e-mail... Maybe I'll e-mail them again. Every year I think this is gonna be the year I subscribe to DB, but I never do.....

Just pick anything you like, perhaps a “classic title” that you think many of us will already have - or something that would be easy enough to find (in stock) at our favorite shiny-disc-emporium (preferably a “mid-line” priced title, perhaps, which might be easier on the pocketbook - or at least that’s something to think about). Some people (myself included) have started polls with half-a-dozen titles that they're thinkin' about choosing for their AOTW, to solicit feedback about what to choose.

Nah, not really - though I sure wish I could!!! Too far a drive... No, I was secretly hoping b3-er would reveal who that actually is in his Avatar, cuz I feel like an idiot for not being able to figure it out!! (But that face looks so familiar. It's driving me crazy!! )

Amen to that. I want surprises. Even little surprises. I want left turns in solos. I want wrong turns in solos. I want chord substitutions that don't always work, but somehow the cat makes it work (at least a little bit) on some other level - on some less "academically" correct level. I wan't some uncertanty in what a cat's playing - not cuz he can't play, but cuz he's actually thinking about what to play, and sometimes he can't always think of everything that would be interesting to play, until a couple seconds after he shoulda actually played it. I want some stubbling around, a little jaggedness. (That's why I love Neil Young's electric guitar work, precisely because it is so clunkly.) I want to hear somebody actually take that request I often make, for them to play "Take 5"... ...in 7... ...and somehow, make it kinda, sorta work - or at least noodle a bit on the head for 60 seconds, and then tell me there's no fucking way!!! (A relevant side note: One guy said he couldn't/wouldn't play "Take 5" in 7, but he thought he could play Sonny Rollin's "Blue 7" in 5 - and he thought about it a minute, talked to the rhythm section - and he did!!! ) Is some of that too much to ask?? (OK, maybe asking for "Take 5" in 7 really is too much to ask. )

Thanks!!! I'm workin' on a trade with someone who said they had this in a regular jewel-box, but I was unaware of any other release other than the JRVG. Appreciate the info, and the quick turnaround!! -- RT

Also, Jim's post (just above this one) made a really good point, about food and jazz. At this moment (mid-2003), nearly every jazz club/bar is primarily a restaurant, or at the very lease a combination of a real jazz bar (sorta, mostly), and a real restaurant (with a full-service kitchen, nightly specials, etc...). Off the top of my head, there are only a couple jazz bars in town that don't derive a fairly high percentage of their income from the food they sell. And there’s only really one good jazz-bar in town that doesn’t have a kitchen – and they have an endowment that keeps them open, because they’re attached to the American Jazz Museum (technically they’re part of the museum), down in the historic 18th & Vine area. That, more than anything, should tell you a bunch about what the jazz-scene is like here in Kansas City, if almost every jazz venue is primarily a chow-house. I'm sure that shoehorns in the musicians a ton, such that they can't stretch out on anything until at least the 2nd set, or not even until the 3rd set - most nights. (Wouldn’t want to disturb the dinner conversation and all.) Things were a little better even as recently as nearly 10 years ago (when I first moved here), in terms of jazz-clubs - but probably not a whole lot better. I think the biggest blow to the jazz-club scene was when Riverboat Gambling was legalized in the state of Missouri (around 1995 or 96), and within one year - there were suddenly five (5!!!) huge "Riverboat" gambling complexes open, each with like 4 or 5 big restaurants. That drained a TON of customers from the "over 30"-centric nightclubs, which included most of the jazz-clubs. Any that were doing "OK" (in the black more often than in the red), just couldn't handle the loss in customers (even just a 20% loss in customers was enough to put them in the red more often than black), and many clubs had to call it quits. After that, almost any jazz-bar that doesn't have a full-service kitchen - is almost always doomed to failure. Not sure where this is going, but it does give you some additional perspective on the Kansas City jazz scene over the last 10 years. Doesn't look like it's going to change any, anytime in the near future either.

Another day, another perspective. Man, maybe it was something I ate yesterday, but I sure went off on the KC jazz scene, didn't I?? I still stand by most of it, although I might temper my thoughts a bit here and there, if I had it to do over again. And maybe in hindsight, I'd say that probably only half of the jazz in KC simply bores me to tears. (I suppose from my posts above, you might get the idea that nearly all of it does - which isn't quite the case.) Also, to be a little clearer about my position on Standards, I should probably say this... It's the 10% of "The Real Book" that gets played most frequently that really annoys the heck out of me, and I'll venture to say that I think that's about what every other tune is (50% of their playlists) from the half of the Kansas City jazz musicians that I'm complaining about so much in this thread. But, I should acknowledge that there are quite a few guys that don't just play the obvious standards, and for that - I'm always grateful.

Sent you a PM about the Eddie Henderson, and a couple other discs you mentioned in some other threads.

I'll look for you, b3-er, for sure!!! You do look like the picture in your current Avatar, correct?? ...cuz that'll be who I'm lookin' for.

Was Jack Wilson's "Easterly Winds" ever released on CD (presumably only in Japan, I'm guessing) in a jewelbox, which I also presume would have been as regular TOCJ issue?? I seem to remember it was released as part of the JRVG series (none of which I own), but I know those are all in those dreaded "mini-LP" formats, housed in cardboard (which I try to avoid, if possible). But I don't know if it was ever released on CD anywhere, other than the JRVG issue. Thanks!! -- Rooster T.

The rule is that whoever is picked to moderate the Album of the Week (and they pick the album everybody listens to that week), they also get to pick who the next person is who moderates the next week's album of the week. Then that person picks an album, gets the ball rolling, and they pick the next person. Simple as that. Just get in cozy with whoever is "it", and get 'em to pick you next.

Holy shit, there's like 3 hours of live Jeremy Pelt MP3's on his website. I had no idea!!! Thanks, man!!!!

Well at least it's smaller (and probably gets better gas mileage) than one of these... ( And notice that this picture was taken of the Hummer in it's natural habitat too!! )

Welcome aboard, "Free For All"!!!! Glad to have you here, although you've been here already, in a way, for years!!!! Great first post, and I look forward to many more!!! -- Rooster T.

Oh, by bad. It does say "three per title per customer". Well then, break out the plastic!!!!

That's always been my take too, Chuck. I've made some exceptions, here and there, but generally unless an older release really sucks rocks in the sound department, I've never upgraded - like to TOCJ's (never) or RVG's (seldom) - for titles that I've already owned in their prior U.S. release. Or, if I'm really interested in the expanded liner-notes that the RVG's include (along with the better wound), I'll upgrade a title, but then give the old one to a friend who's open to having their soundworld widened. Or put the extra on a shelf until I meet just such a person, who I know will really dig "Unity" or one of the Herbie titles, or even "All Seeing Eye". I'm sitting on a couple older issues right now, just waiting for that 'right person' to appear, as they always seem to, every year or two.

I'm thinking of a few examples now (and trying to think of some better examples than the one's I'm thinking of), but I think I'll save them for when this thread gets going... Are there any records/CD's that you really like quite a lot - and I mean really like a whole lot... ...that have one (or more) prominent players on them, who's own recordings (both as a leader, and as a sideman) you normally don't like much at all??? "I usually can't stand player "XYZ", but man - he's on "Blah, Blah, Blah" - and the whole thing works really well, even with "XYZ" on the date. What's up with that???"

It's Branford. I backtracked on the site, and found this... In a special issue devoted to Hot Spots, The Bop Shop was featured as the Favorite Jazz Record Store in an article by Branford Marsalis. Excerpts from Entertainment Weekly Issue #72 / 73 Friday, June 28 / Friday, July 5, 1991 --reporting by Ron Givens -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I found out about the Bop Shop when I was going to a concert at the Eastman School of Music in Rochester. Whenever I go into a new town, the first thing I say is 'Record Shop?' In Rochester, a guy answered, 'The Bop Shop.' The thing that makes this record store so cool is that the people who work here like music. I can spend an hour or an hour and a half in the store, not just buying records, but talking with the proprietor, Tom Kohn.... "It's a hands-on store, a dying breed. Kohn stocks the records he likes as well as the records that sell a lot of copies....He'll order things for you -- other stores say they'll get it for you in three or four weeks, but he'll get it for you in three or four days. "I just spent $200 here on records--all vinyl. I went in and said I wanted blues. They said , 'We got 'em.' I bought three Howlin' Wolfs, two Sonny Boy Williamson's, one Son House. I also got some novelty records and (at the sister store Recorded Classics), some classical and some operas. "Good record-store owners do what they do because they love the music. They're like good musicians--a small minority who deal with the music business because they love it."