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Not to take anything away from Joe Henderson's Blue Note output, but that Milestone box just keeps giving and giving -- year after year (since I got mine at full-price, back 20+ years ago).

Far as I know, I only heard Larry once — of all places, playing Sunday morning in church here in DC (Larry was from Baltimore, iirc) -- as a special guest-musician that morning. This was shortly after I moved to DC in 2011, and I chatted him up between services too. Seemed like an incredibly nice guy. I think he said the BN date with Jackie was his first ever studio recording, iirc. I rattled off 6-7 recordings that I knew his was on, that were favorites of mine (and this was before I had a smartphone to look all that up in an instant). He seemed to appreciate that his body of work was still known, and appreciated. RIP.

I’ve got (and actually found ) 8 out of the 9 DB issues Bertrand is looking for. But I seem to be missing 11/26/70, if anyone else has that one specifically. I can scan all the rest this week sometime, I hope.

Moments ago I just stumbled on a 200+ page dissertation about Joe Henderson, that I found entirely by accident searching for something unrelated. I haven't even had a minute to look at this thing - probably won't until this weekend. But I thought I'd start a general thread about Doctoral Dissertations (or other similar scholarly research), about jazz topics -- especially about specific musicians -- that are otherwise unpublished, or (even if published) not widely known. Anyway, here's the link to the one I just found about Joe -- and its title (and author) in case the link doesn't come through in the future... https://digscholarship.unco.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1380&context=dissertations UNIVERSITY OF NORTHERN COLORADO Greeley, Colorado -- The Graduate School JOE HENDERSON: A BIOGRAPHICAL STUDY OF HIS LIFE AND CAREER A Dissertation Submitted in Partial Fulfillment of the Requirements for the Degree of Doctor of Arts Joel Geoffrey Harris College of Performing and Visual Arts School of Music Jazz Studies -- December 2016

I'll try to look tonight or tomorrow night, I've not forgotten entirely. Just been swamped at work. I probably have all or most of the Downbeat articles.

Yeah, but if 1 in 100 kids dig it, then all the better!!

Can't stand Macs, or more specifically the Mac user interface. (Or I should say more specially what Macs became in the early late 90's and early 2000's. I used Macs back in college a lot (circa 1987-93), but by 2000 I could barely work one, once I stopped using them a lot more frequently. My Mom still had/used one, and then my Dad -- and trouble-shooting the damn thing for my Dad became increasingly impossible, simply because I could never figure out the damn UI. But I pretty much love my iPhone (or the interface), and it seems way more intuitive than other Apple products. Then again, my only smart-phone ever has been these iPhone 5's that we've had for 7 years.

Given that the word "alive" is specifically in quotes in the thread title... Tina Brooks -- though not by BN -- but Mosaic stepped up decades after the fact and certainly lifted his notoriety considerably (arguably by leaps and bounds). He's sort of a half semi-legendary figure now (by which I don't mean to damn him with faint praise, but I also don't want to overstate his overall notoriety either). But I'm sure he's WAY better known today (or at least 10 or 20 years ago), than he would have been but for the Mosaic.

I'm sure you're right about us not really needing the 256 GB. I just want to make up for my past mistake of only getting 16 GB last time! I use the dollar-a-month for 50 GB plan too (but only for the last year or two, finally). Not sure if that's backing up my wife's phone or not (we're on the same plan/account). She lost her iCloud password 6 months ago, and hasn't been able to get back into her account (because she could never get the verification notification to show up on her phone). We've both been plagued by extremely low memory (full memory) on both of these dogs of 16 GB phones, despite everything we've ever tried. We've deleted lots of apps, and I deleted all my music, and half my photos. And supposedly when you backed up the entire phone to/thru iTunes (to our laptop at home), then you could restore everything to your phone from the backup, and it would basically recover all kinds of unused/poorly used memory. Except I tried doing that 3-4 times (backing up the whole phone to iTunes, and then restoring), and it would NEVER free up any memory at all. I think I stopped trying after the 4th attempt. Last night my wife's phone said it literally had like 68kb free on the whole thing. I deleted about 10 apps she didn't use all that much, and I got it to jump up to almost 1 GB free, but even then, it's slow as a dog. And they've both been like that for a couple years now. So you can imagine my temptation to max out on memory.

My wife and I are still on our very first smart-phones, iPhone 5's (the most basic model, with only 16GB each, if you can imagine). I think we got them in January 2013, iirc. They both still work (kinda-sorta), but the lack of memory and ever worsening battery life (they both barely work more than an hour with continuous use) -- means they're both old as dirt, and act like it too. Then my wife must have dropped her phone sometime in the last month, because the screen on hers is starting to separate from the phone (though it all still works, again, kinda-sorta). We've been SAYING that we need to upgrade to new iPhones for about 2+ years now, and I think the time has finally come. As luck would have it, the iPhone 11 has just been announced -- and I think we're both going to spring for the lesser of the 3 different iPhone 11 models available (as opposed to getting iPhone 8's, which are still being produced). That's on the theory that if we're gonna use these new phones for a good 6 years (like we did our iPhone 5's), then we really ought to get about the best/newest ones we can. We have absolutely no need of the features of the top-tier iPhone 11 Pro and Pro Max versions -- but some cursory comparisons between the "8" models vs. the basic "11" seem to really point to getting an iPhone 11. BUT, I'm torn between getting it with 128 GB, or maybe going whole hog and getting the 256 GB version. Probably my *only* motivation here, is to NEVER buy anything close to the minimum amount of memory in a smart-phone EVER again (as we did with our current iPhone 5's, with only 16 GB). Yeah, yeah, I'm sure we don't really need the 256 -- but if we're going to keep them for 6 years (or maybe if we're luck, 7-8, and it's only like $100 more per phone, why the hell not? (So I guess I'm asking all of you -- why the hell not?) (And yeah, I'm not counting the next 6-8 years with the same phone, until that chicken hatches -- I fully realize. But, what the heck? - these iPhone 5's have sort of lasted 6 years, so who knows?) We're probably going to go back to the provider (store) where we got our iPhone 5's -- which is the AT&T store nearest where I work. I presume the deals are all pretty similar from store to store, and all similarly competitive? -- is that right??? (I hate, hate, hate, trying to comparison shop stuff like this, because they make it impossible to compare apples to apples between different plans.) Anything I need to be wary of in all this?? We upgrade equipment like this barely once or twice a decade, so I'm about as green as they come in trying to navigate all the different deals, bells, and whistles associated with all this. Hell's bells, I used my old flip-phone cell phone for 10(!) full years, before I got the iPhone 5 that I'm still using now -- if that tells you anything. Any advice would be more than welcome. Thanks!! I imagine I'll need to 'up' our data-plan too, since half the reason we blow our data-limits only occasionally now -- is the (poor) performance of our ancient iPhone 5's. And I'm just SURE that when we get 11's, we're gonna go through twice as much data, without even trying.

It seems like I'm perpetually thinking it's still a whole month ago, and stuff from 6 weeks ago seems like 2-3 weeks ago (tops). Like it's already Sept. 18 -- and yet I feel like I'm barely ready for August to be over with (mentally) -- and wasn't it Sept 1st like just sometime last week? And November and December are even worse, with the holidays. It'll be the end of October, and then like in the blink of an eye, the week of Thanksgiving is next week, no wait, that already this week now. And then it seems like barely a week after I'm back, it's already almost time to fly back home for Christmas. And then in another blink, I've got deadlines related to the quarterly meetings I've got at work in late January. An individual afternoon like seem like it takes forever. So much so, even, that by the time it's over, that same morning (earlier the same day) can already seem fully like yesterday morning. I turned 50 this year, and I don't remember it being like this 10 years ago when I was 40.

This article dates from January 7th, 2019. Has anything more been said about anything specifically Blue Note related -- in terms of these efforts? Anything at all?

Very true (what a good singer Ben Orr was). But Ric was arguably the more unique voice in the group, and I'd certainly ague that was a critical part of the mix that led to their success.

My Mom did collect Green Stamps, in fact -- I'm almost positive. Wouldn't be surprised if a few even turned up my Dad's houseful of stuff (which is all getting cleared out next week).

The very first non-kids album I ever purchased was Heartbeat City (circa 1984, when I was 15). Such a unique-sounding band, that really was a hybrid of a number of different styles. One of my favorite discoveries in the last 15 years was this original **DEMO** version of "Moving in Stereo" from their debut. The final (finished) album version was super atmospheric, and this demo-version even more so. Thank goodness they were inducted into the Rock n Roll HOF just last year, and not a moment too late. Seems he was a good 5 years older than commonly known (at least from some other discussions I've seen online in the last 24 hours). His DOB was more commonly cited as being 1949, when it was really 1944 -- thus he was 75 (and not 70). Again, this is the original DEMO version of this song. RIP Ric.

I tried to do my part by only buying music that wasn't disposable.

Love that Television reunion album quite a lot. Like the OP, I was SUPER late to the party, and only got into Marquee Moon barely 12 years ago. Actually saw the current configuration of the band live here in DC a couple years ago. Great show! Really a unique voice, both literally and figuratively.

Even my iPod mini managed music better than my iPhone 5 (16GB) ever has, even before I routinely have 95% of the memory used up, which means it runs like a dog half the time, and barely has room for a dozen CD's now. I've tried backing it up (meaning the whole phone) to/though iTunes (to my laptop), which was supposed to somehow trigger a reloading of everything using memory more efficiently, but I tried that 3-4 times, and the memory usage was always the same. In any case, my wife's iPhone 5 (same vintage, also 16GB) is probably short for this world, so we're both going to probably update later this year. And this will be the LAST time I ever get the minimum memory option available, I can tell you that. Especially since I seem to keep these phones for a good 6 years (or probably 3x as long as most people typically do, I gather). But if I still owned a car, and wanted to play music on it a lot from my collection -- I seem to remember being able to load about 50 CD's worth of stuff on my old iPod mini, which actually really performed much better.

Yeah, but it's always such a pain loading CD's into iTunes every time I want to change the music on my phone. Granted, my iPhone is an ancient iPhone 5 (with 16gb, which makes it suck even more). But then having to delete albums out of iTunes on my laptop, and ripping the new ones in order to sync everything, is all such a pain. Granted my phone only holds about 30 CD's, but still, ripping 30 CD's every time I want to switch out all the music on my phone is a good entire night's worth of time, couple hours at least. SO much easier to grab 36 CD's and put them in one of those multi-folder things, which only takes about 15 minutes to switch out all 36 discs (incl. liner notes). Granted, we don't even own a car any more (haven't for almost 9 years), and now that rentals don't even have CD players, I never get to take CD's on trips, unless it's to St. Louis, cuz my Dad's car has a CD player still. Point being, when you have 4,000 CD's, and potentially 1,000 are things that might be nice to listen in the car, a car CD player was and still would be a hugely helpful thing to still have (if I even had a car, mind you).

It doesn't bother me so much that I can no longer get any sort of trade-in value for books, or for CD's -- so much as it does really pain me to think that there literally is so little interest in books and CD's that you can't even give them away in many cases. Cripes! My wife and I have about 4-5 boxes of books we've been meaning to find a good place to donate to (and finding somewhere that'll take them has been a little hard). And I also have maybe 200 CD's that I probably ought to cull from my collection (my wife would say 500 CD's) -- that I would similarly like to donate somewhere. I'm under no illusions that libraries have no actual "need" of them (to use as items to lend) -- but that there's literally no market for any of this perfectly good, and well-maintained stuff (most of which is in very good or even "mint-minus" condition), really does bug me. You can't tell me that there isn't a market for books and music any more - really?? We still buy books, and I buy CD's all the time. Not as many as I did 10-15 years ago -- but that's more a reflection of some runaway spending on my part when I was in my 30's (and when I had twice as much space for stuff, and more time). I just turned 50 (solid Gen-X), and are the leisure-time habits of Millennials really THAT radically different from our generation? We're not talking about easy-listening 100-strings LP's here, or readers-digest compendiums (and the stuff of Salvation Army donations). I totally GET that nobody wants encyclopedias (and the two sets in my father's attic are going straight in the dumpster when the auctioneer clears out/cleans out his house -- I totally realize that, even if my father doesn't, and doesn't understand). But are books and music SO passé -- or at least non-electronic versions of them -- that they literally have no value even as stuff to donate, to be resold at $4 a pop, all of which could go to the charity to which the donation was made?? Maybe I am living in the past, but it wasn't at all like this 10-15 years ago, which wasn't all that long ago at all.

One other really good thing, re: my Dad. Late during the move, we found his official army discharge papers from 1947, iirc (he was drafted at the tail end of WWII, never went overseas, but he is fully considered a war veteran - I think he only served 14-16 months, or something like that - a little over a year). Anyway, as I understand -- because he's a war veteran he may eventually qualify for some significant financial support/benefits (perhaps as much as $1,750+ per month) -- if he ever needs to go into a true "assisted living" (i.e. nursing home) type care facility. There are limitations based on his annual income, and his total assets -- but I have a hunch that by the time my Dad is 96 or 98 (i.e. in 4-6 more years), he may well qualify (i.e. his assets may have fallen just below the maximum allowable to take advantage of the benefit), depending on what health issues befall him between now and then. So about 3-4 weeks ago we found his draft card, and the letter he got when he was drafted, along with his official army photo (all up in the attic). But it was only last Monday that we found his discharge papers, in a box in his closet. And they were exactly where they should have been -- in with the Masonic effects he wants to be buried with -- because the cemetery where he'll be buried (eventually, probably in 10 years when he's 102) also provides a flag because of his war veteran status. I've known all about all those Masonic effects, as he's gone over them in some detail with me 6-7 times in the last 15 years (in a lot more detail than I care to know, to be frank). But I never realized his army discharge papers were in that box too (or maybe I knew that 15 years ago, but none of us have thought about them since). So, if my understanding is right, and if his total assets fall below something like $70k (I forget the exact figure), and if he needs a real "nursing home" (probably a good $4k/month) -- his benefit should be as much as $21k/year -- which is a huge relief (that we found those discharge papers). That was THE one thing I was most worried about finding, before he moved, and by gosh we found them. Whew! I think we got through about 90% of the stuff in the house fairly carefully (95% of the stuff on the main floor and basement, and maybe close to 80% or 85% of the stuff in the attic). Given how much there was, I feel like we did a pretty good job of NOT leaving behind very much that we hadn't gone through somewhat carefully. But there was so much, and it would have taken a week (and a lot of double-work) to really try and be totally comprehensive. We did open every box in the attic, and at least riffled through everything -- some boxes more than others). My grandfather was a dentist, and so there were a fair number of old dental records from the 1940's and 50's up there, including several boxes of dental x-rays too. Why in the hell was all that up there? - you might ask. 1) My grandfather saw patients 2 days per week at the house (there was a separate front room, off the living room, that was his auxiliary dental office), and the house actually had (and still has) TWO front doors (or a side-front door, is maybe the better way to say it). and 2) my grandfather died fairly young, in his mid-50's (in the late 1950's), of cancer, which overtook him pretty quickly over 6-8 months. So when he passed, I imagine my grandmother boxed up all his records from his main office (in downtown East St. Louis) and just moved them to the house, into the dental office -- and then my Dad eventually just moved all that stuff up into the attic when he bought the house from his mother. My grandfather ran a one-man dental office (with just one clerk/assistant, iirc), so what else was there to do? I'm sure my grandmother and father never threw away any of those records, just in case they were ever needed for any reason (including, I suppose, dental records for body identification - for like when someone dies in a fire, and other means of positive ID aren't possible). It was a little weird, I have to admit, to find maybe a couple thousand dental x-rays from 60-70 years ago up in that attic a few weeks ago. Not super creepy, but certainly a little odd.

So glad to hear the positive update about your mom, and how she's taking to her new place. And I'd love to see pictures of your dad's motorcycles, if you could post them here sometime. While I'm not suggesting that going the auction route (in terms of your mom's house) is definitely the way to go, one thing to consider is that depending on how long she's been in it, there may be some unknown number of things that might not be "up to code" (that you would presumably have to address before it could be sold, or else that might be something you end of paying for in the final dickering over the price, after the buyers have it inspected). In the case of my father's house, it has literally NEVER been inspected -- since it last changed hands when he bought it from his mother (and I'm sure it wasn't inspected back then in the early 1960's - or the codes were far, FAR less stringent/elaborate back then). I could probably list 20 things off the top of my head that don't meet code with my Dad's house (though they were all legit back when the work was done 40-50 years ago). Electrical (including tons of knob-and-tube wiring), door-locks, chimney isn't lined, and several things I have suspicions about (that I won't go into here). The 'beauty' of selling it at auction, is that it's sold completely "as is" with no warranty about anything. In fact, we purposely didn't get the house inspected ourselves, because we might then be legally obligated to disclose some of that to potential buyers (even going through the auction process). But if even we don't know specifically what's technically wrong with the house, then we have nothing to disclose -- it's sold simply "as is". We're certainly not going to put $10-$15K into it to bring it up to codes (my wild guess as to what it would cost), to say nothing of the $35K you could easily spend just trying to modernize the place (kitchen dates to the 1960's, original stove that only half works, etc) -- and carpet and floors that all need serious attention/redress. If you put $50k into my Dad's house, you might be able to get $110k for it (if you're lucky), but with any luck, maybe we'll get $65K for it at auction (even in the condition it's in) -- and we'd come out $5k-$10k ahead. Plus, then we're done with it quickly (and my wife and I could never manage all those improvements from 1,000 miles away). Anyway, an auction might not be at all right in your situation, but perhaps it could be worth considering.

BIG UPDATE. The deed is done!! My father is moved!! - and 99.9% of everything he wanted to keep is out of his house. And he's about 80% settled, which is about as much as we could get done in the last 3 days after the moving truck last Wednesday. His new digs are really working out well, and although not "fancy" -- he does have TONS of space (at least 600 sq-ft, in two big rooms that used to be 2 separate efficiencies that they combined) -- almost more than my wife and I have here in DC (we only have 630 sq-ft here). After staying with him in his new apartment 3 nights (sofa-bed in his living room, and our own (a 2nd) bathroom off the living room), and having several meals with him there in the community dining room (the food was actually not half bad at all) -- we are even more certain of him being in EXACTLY the best and right place for him. Nothing fancy, but most of the staff there are just shy of amazing. The owner/executive-director even helps provide housing for half-a-dozen vets (most Vietnam-era, though one from Afghanistan even) who I understand were in some pretty dire straits immediately prior (at least one that was living out of his car for some time). Don't know the entire circumstances, but I have a strong suspicion she's (meaning the owner/director) is doing much of that out of the goodness of her own heart (not sure how much, if any, remuneration she's getting -- maybe some, from some support programs, but I'm betting that doesn't cover everything). She also has a small handful of (just slightly) developmentally challenged folks who work as servers in the dining room, which we also think shows a degree of care and consideration (in terms of hiring folks who probably otherwise couldn't work in the traditional service-industry or public-facing sector). Multi-racial staff (of all ages, including some younger folks), and multi-racial residents too -- maybe 20% in each of those categories was African American. I may have mentioned upthread somewhere that a former member of The Ink Spots lived out his last 5-6 years at this facility, and she (the exec-dir) and he used to go out to clubs now and then. Most of the residents are very working class, but probably a little more (former) white-collar, than blue-collar. And slightly more men(!) than women, actually. All a good fit with and for my father. I can provide a longer update and some pics in a day or two, but that's the gist of it. The house gets cleared out in a couple weeks, and it goes to auction in early October (which I'm flying back for). House won't be a windfall (to put it mildly, given the near total lack of updates since the 1960's, and what houses go for in his neighborhood), but in any case -- we'll be past this big life-changing event in less than 30 days. Did it all in 8 days (plus I was there a week in early August). But this past week we were gone, felt like 2 weeks minimum. We never did more than about 7-8 hours of work in any given day, so we were never exhausted ('cept the last half-day we crammed a full day of unpacking in), and we managed to spread it all out pretty evenly, and found time for the local walk-up ice-cream place 3-4 times too, and a couple nice-ish dinners out too. Back at work now, and I'm not sure I have any idea what it is I used to do here. Fortunately my boss is out of town until Thursday, and he'll barely be in at all this week -- so I have some time to play catch up.

I've got this very 10", along with the "City of Glass" 10" too -- that both belong to my MOM! Seriously!!

Might be more visible on the PC-based version of the forum, than the mobile version?? Just a random thought (nowhere near a PC, or I'd check myself).