[Worst 32 jazz cover]

while we're criticizing 32jazz packaging, am i the only one who was annoyed by joel dorn's personal musings on the inside cover? often, they offered little or no information about the artist or the recording. sometimes, they sounded rather odd or bizarre, ie. self-involved ramblings about dorn himself. am i alone on this?

not really, I think ! They didn't get me excited either.

but in the end: Dorn reissued that much good music (and some great, too)...

ubu

[Jimmy Lyons Live Box Set]

Sounds VERY interesting!

Any more info on what might be in this box? How many discs etc?

ubu

[Bob Dylan's Love and Theft]

Yeah, a real great one!

Dylan always looked around and took for his songs what he found useful, didn't he? So what's the fuzz?

ubu

[Which Mosaic?]

Another Mosaic freak over here...

I'd go for the Hamilton (although I agree with Jim's evaluation of the music - Collette and Hall were the real thing) simply for practical reasons: If you get the Tristano/Konitz/Marsh (a wonderful one, and my start with Mosaic) or any other, and start to love it and want more and more of them (and believe me you will! Otherwise you should go see a shrink immediately!), you'll hate yourself for the rest of your lifetime for having had a unhappy start with Mosaic and having passed on the Hamilton

'tis just one man's opinion, though...

ubu

[Charlie Parker]

I got the very nice 4CD at Birdland box by Charlie Parker (on Ember records), and have seen that there are two more Parker sets on Ember:

- In Chicago: Amazon, Bird in Chicago

- At Café Society Downtown and Birdland: Amazon, Bird at Café Society...

and then a third one which seems to include both of the above:

Amazon, Bird in Chicago/Café Society

Anyone knows these? Are they as nice as the Birdland box? And do they (the Birdland set, most obviously?) include anything which is in the Birdland box? Or on other Parker live discs?

thanks,

ubu

[The King Is Gone - Benny Carter RIP]

Very very sad news indeed!

ubu

[Saga Jazz]

I bought those two "Jazzin' the Classics" discs. They are nicely packaged, you get all information (musicians, dates etc). And they say they have remastered their stuff - though I would have to dig them up to check their quality.

ubu

[were any more LEFT BANK sessions ever reissued?]

Isn't Dexter's XXL a Left Bank Recording?

Yes it is. I added it to my list, thanks.

ubu

[Should there be a 3 Sounds Mosaic?]

Perhaps I shouldn't admit this, but recently I developed a taste for the early Ramsey Lewis trio (before they became terminally commercial).

Anyway, their earlier recordings sort of remind me of The Three Sounds. Would anyone care to comment on that comparison? Or on the early Ramsey Lewis trio? I rarely hear much about them on the various forums. Perhaps, like the Three Sounds, their commercial success has undermined their later appreciation.

I've got the Chess/MCA/Universal 2CD "In Person 1960-67". Like that quite much. But it would certainly be nice to have some of the original albums in nice CD reissues.

ubu

[***Joe Henderson***]

I'd say there's a definite need to have this puppy widely available again.....

hellyeah!

[Ellery Eskelin New CD]

I only have ONE GREAT DAY and KULAK so far. They're both OOP! ONE GREAT DAY is a great record. Took some time to get used to Parkins, too.

Daniel Humair's current band with Bruno Chevillon on bass and Marc Ducret on guitar featuring Eskelin is great, too. Don't know their record, but have a broadcast from their Willisau 2002 concert, which is very good!

And Eskelins Ammons-Tribute (have the Willisau broadcast, too, and don't have the album, either, Soul Note, by the way) was great fun, too!

ubu

[***Joe Henderson***]

Where's some more Joe??? Even as a sideman?? There have to be some great tapes out there, wouldn't you think???

not unreleased, but not mentioned often, and a very good session, featuring Chick Corea, Ron Carter and Billy Higgins, rec. 1980:

And anyone who likes Johnny Coles' "Little Johnny C" should check out the first Blue Mitchell BN date, with a very similar line up (Leo Wright's there, too, and as the Coles date, it seems to be very much influenced by the presence of Duke Pearson)

ubu

[Worst 32 jazz cover]

My vote is for Woody Shaw's "Solid".  Thankfully I have the orignal Muse version.

That 32 Jazz "Solid" IS bad. Didn't see that one that much in the stores, so I forgot about it.

As BAD as all these were. I'm beginning to think they were bad in a "good" way. They're all so bad I actually like them sort of.

One thing's for sure. When searching the used CD bin, the 32 Jazz CD cases (thick black plastic) are by far the most recognizable of them all. So, they did do something right.

I grew to be quite fond of them, too. To have some fun, just put all those black boxes you got in a row in your CD rack, then take out any one, have a good and healtyh laugh, put it back, take out any next one... Doctor says a good laugh a day is healthy

That Altschul is a hell of a record! I picked it up only a month ago, and was really surprised!

And yes the Altschul and the Roy Brooks would be the two coming closest to an ok cover. And that La Roca is ok, too, and another very good record.

Now how's this one?

You can get it for $1000,00 at amazon.com

Then comes another favorite:

and another:

geez!

and now, ladies and gentlemen, presenting my ultimate 32jazz poll-winner:

[were any more LEFT BANK sessions ever reissued?]

I got an e-mail response from Label M back when they were in operation, and they said that they had intentions to eventually release a Mobley set from the Left Bank tapes. Not anything that's already been issued, but something elseThey mighta been blowin' smoke, but I was left with the impression that the material was available and of usable quality.

So say your prayers, eat your vegetables, and keep your lawns mowed and well groomed, there's hope!

Jim: one of that Freshsound Wynton Kelly 2CD sets has Hank Mobley (I'd guess the 67 but I'm not sure). The other has George Coleman. The 68 set was made after Chambers had died, with Ron McClure, if I remember right.

Let me get the info from Freshsound:

Live At The Left Bank Jazz Society, Baltimore 1967 (2 Cds)

Wynton Kelly Trio

Featuring: Wynton Kelly (p), Hank Mobley (ts), Cecil McBee (B), Jimmy Cobb (d)

REFERENCE: FSCD 1031

BAR CODE: 84 27328 61031 5

PRICE: 17.20 €

Tracklisting:

CD 1

1. On A Clear Day (Lerner-Lane)

2. Hackensack (Monk)

3. On Green Dolphin Street

(Kaper-Washington)

CD 2

1. Milestones (Davis)

2. If You Could See Me Now (Dameron-Sigman)

3. Speak Low (Weil-Nash)

Recorded live in 1967

Live At The Left Bank Jazz Society, Baltimore 1968 - 2 Cds

Wynton Kelly Trio

Featuring: Wynton Kelly (p), George Coleman (ts), Ron McClure (B), Jimmy Cobb (d)

REFERENCE: FSCD 1032

BAR CODE: 84 27328 61032 2

PRICE: 17.20 €

Tracklisting:

CD. 1

1. Introducction-Announcements

2. Unit 7 (Jones)

3. Surrey With The Fringe On Top

(Rodgers-Hammerstein)

4. On The Trail (Grofé)

CD. 2

1. Mr. P.C. (Coltrane)

2. On A Clear Day (Lane-Lerner)

3. Here's That Rainy Day

(Van Heusen-Burke)

4. Theme (Davis)

I don't have either of these, but listened to part of them at some store, and they have quite horrible sound. So I guess the Label M Mobley might have been some other recording? Dorn would not have released these, I think.

ubu

("don't mow your lawn" - ray anderson)

[Should there be a 3 Sounds Mosaic?]

I love Blue Hours, too! What a wonderful session!

Conn: get the ConnSeries release (as your name says...). Disc 1 has the original album, no disturbance by alternates. You get alts and additional stuff from an earlier session on Disc 2. (Though this all does not come close to the originally released music! But concerning "snooze", the second disc with that earlier session is a little stronger with faster tunes)

Dan: that Concord sounds interesting!

ubu

[Worst 32 jazz cover]

Hellyeah! Now that's a fun thread!

[Worst 32 jazz cover]

Now ain't these nice for a change?

ubu

[Worst 32 jazz cover]

I remember there was a particularly awful cover on a Sonny Stitt session, but I don't remember what it was. It looked like the outline of a body or something with a comicbook type of yellow or red filling in the picture. It was so awful it scared me off the disc.

It's true, I can't help it but sometimes these covers shy me off the cd. I know there shouldn't be a connection but there is this psychological thing....

ouch!

[Worst 32 jazz cover]

Mobley / Walton, Breakthrough

Sonny Stitt, 12!

and all three you already mentioned...

ubu

[Are there problems with the webserver?]

I was trying again and again for more than three hours and was only able to connect a quarter of an hour ago. (from switzerland)

ubu

[*** Clifford Jordan ***]

A strong recommendation for Mal Waldron's "What It Is", a quartet date on Enja with Jordan, Cecil McBee and Dannie Richmond. Three lenghty tunes, featuring Jordan at his best.

Then there's a nice (european) release of late Jordan called "Clifford Jordan meets Klaus Weiss", recorded in Vienna in 1987 it features Jordan with John Schröder, g; Roberto di Gioia, p; Thomas Stabenow, b; Klaus Weiss, d.

Find more here

ubu

[were any more LEFT BANK sessions ever reissued?]

Could we do a list of recordings made there?

Label M:

Stan Getz, My Foolish Heart

Cohn/Sims, Easy as Pie

Hubbard Heath, Jam Gems

Sonny Stitt, As It Was

Cedar Walton, Three Sundays in the Seventies

Freddie Hubbard, Fastball

Muse:

Roy Brooks, The Free Slave

Fantasy:

Dexter Gordon, L.T.D.

-, XXL

Ammons/Stitt, God Bless Jug and Sonny

-, Left Bank Encores

Enja:

Coleman Hawkins, Supreme

Verve:

Joe Henderson/Wynton Kelly Trio, Straight No Chaser

-, Four

Freshsound:

Wynton Kelly Trio, Live at the Leftbank Jazz Society, Baltimore 1967 (2CD)

-, Live at the Leftbank Jazz Society, Baltimore 1968 (2CD)

Lee Morgan/Cliff Jordan, Live in Baltimore 1968 (Recording organised by Leftbank Jazz Society at Royal Arms, Baltimore)

These are all I can think of. Is there anything more?

ubu

Edit: added the recordings brownie & Lyin' Wolf mentioned.

[ECM Records]

This one - which is, as far as I know, one of Friedrich's most famous paintings - is to be found near my place, in a swiss museum. But, as far as I know, it also represents the single Friedrich painting over here.

ubu

[32 Jazz]

I sure miss 32! I got all the Woody Shaw and most of the Kirks (except those I had on Rhino/Atlantic, already), the two Cliff Jordans, the two Sonny Criss discs, the Altschul (now that's a very good one!), Joe Chambers, Lockjaw (another great one), some Cedar Walton, the Mobley/Walton...

And it seems the new Savoy reissues do have the very same terrible covers...

then the big question:

DOES SAVOY HAVE ANY RELEASE SCHEDULE?

Their new releases section does not feature any of the Muse/32/Landmark releases that are out.

Neither can the late 90ies reissues be found. Those last ones had an Atlantic imprint on the cover (like the Cannonball 2CD, Navarro, Dorham, Blakey, Coltrane/Harden etc).

ubu

[Charlie Mariano - DEEP IN A DREAM]

There are several lousy (or, at least dull) altos on BN sessions, but I'm not going to list all the details. I'm thinking particularly of the early Lee Morgan sessions, and the ones with Hank Mobley back then are not outstanding either. The only BN altos that I like are Cannonball (if you can call him a BN artist), Jackie McLean and James Spaulding, who are consistently outstanding.

Alright, I get pretty well an idea what you mean! and partially agree, too.

I was afraid though, you might count Spaulding among those

Glad you don't!

Coencerning McLean, I of course did not think you might also mean him - that would have been quite astounding

Will look for "Dear John C."

ubu