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The Thompsons are called "Modern Jazz Group" and "With Dave Pochonet All Stars". If you like them, look for the two "Complete Vogue Recordings" CDs (you might still be able to find them at amazon.fr, for a decent price, I think).
More info on "Bebop":
- Don Byas, Ree-boppers (Holland, Glenn, Taylor, Tilché, Bouchety, Oliver. 1947)
- Don Byas / Tyree Glenn Orchestra (Holland, Rostaing, Taylor, Tilché, Bouchety, Oliver. 1947)
- Howard McGhee Sextet (Heath, Powell, Biddle, Heath, Wright. 1948)
- James Moody Quintet (Peck, Byas, Pfeiffer, Simoens, Frost. 1949)
wowee! the second tenor is Byas, too! Forgot about that. Must listen to this one again, soon!
ubu
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DrJ: if you like the Stu Williams Bethlehem stuff, you might want to check out the Kenton presents Cooper/Holman/Rosolino set. There's some very similar music there, almost same line ups - and I actually prefer the recordings from the Mosaic over the Bethlehems (there is one called "Mariano plays - Bethlehem Years", too). I got these (as well as the Imperial sessions) on Freshsound CDs, which are quite crappy, but at least got the music! Yes, a Mosaic collecting these Bethlehem sessions would indeed be very nice!
Back on topic: I found DEEP IN A DREAM yesterday for 6 $. Have listened to it only once yet, but Mariano has a hauntingly beautiful sound! At his age, this is very remarkable, I guess. A marvellous record by a great artist. He should have done some more straight dates in the seventies/eighties!
Shrdlu: this DEAR JOHN C sounds interesting!
And what alto solos/players are you referring to when talking of Blue Note dates?
How's the McCoy Tyner Impulse featuring Mariano and Clark Terry?
ubu
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Now that's a nice comparison!
I'm quite a big ECM fan. Agree with what Dr J. and others have said. The variety of music possible within the "ECM-sound" is indeed exciting!
Some recent favorites of mine have been:
Enrico Rava Quartet (with Roswell Rudd)
Keith Jarrett - Whisper Not
Bley/Parker/Philipps - Sankt Gerold
Jack DeJohnette - Oneness
Michael Cain - Circa
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yes, get it!
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pryan, I have that Bebop disc. It has four sessions. Two with Don Byas, featuring fellow sideman of the Don Redman band (which toured Europe in 1946 - a broadcast of theirs has been released on the swiss TCB label, in their Swiss Radio Days Jazz Series TCB Homepage), a Howard McGhee session featuring Jimmy Heath (then still "Little Bird") on alto, among others, and James Moody session (which has another tenor aboard, but I can't remember who it is).
The Byas material features Tyree Glenn as co-leader and is of the transitional swing-to-bop kind, while the McGhee and Moody are pure bop.
Then there are three Jazz in Paris with Lucky Thompson. One has him paired with the blues pianist/singer Lloyd Price, the others belong to his very nice Paris recording legacy from 1957, if I remember correctly. They're in a similar vein as the Vogue recordings (in case you know these), they have two sessions each, one with quartet (Henri Renaud, if I remember correctly) and three nonet or tentet sessions. The main attraction is Thompson himself. These are among his most cherished sides, I think. In the Mosaic Select wish list there was some talk that it would be nice to have a Thompson Paris select.
ubu
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Sorry, pryan! Didn't remember. But I always mix the Commodore and the definitive, so I might have supposed others do this as well...
However: if you don't have the Keynote CD (I'm not a fan of theirs, but sometimes it's an easy way to get some nice material) and can't find it, the definitive might be the one to get. The quartet session with Johnny Guarnieri, Slam Stewart and Big Sid is a bitch!
ubu
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A friend of mine is looking for a version of "Cute" (the Hefti chart for the Basie band) done as a bass feature. He heard somewhere, that this exists.
Anyone knows anything? I only have the one version on the live Mosaic (which is a drum/flute feature)
help very appreciated! thanks,
ubu
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Got the Distel set yesterday - this is one very fine set! Some great Bobby Jaspar on it, too! Those two live tracks (Half Nelson and I'll Remember April) with Hubert Fol (as), René Urtreger (p), Pierre Michelot (b) and "Mac Kac" Reilles (d) are nice to have, and from the Sacha Distel-Bobby Jaspar Quintette (with René Urtreger, too) you get six tracks, among them a great take on Everything Happens To Me - Jaspar is really moving on this one!
Anyone knows what #2-? might include? Any news out there?
ubu
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Got two others (but the fact I forgot to list them is quite telling...): New Agenda and Summit Meeting. Picked them up in some sales bin last year.
Anyone knows the recording dates of these? (AMG gives Nov.18, 1976 for the later).
Anyway, these are a mixed bag. Featuring Al Dailey on electric piano, some guitar by one Roland Prince (and what a hype they make about him in the liners!). Summit Meeting has Clark Terry, James Moody and Bunky Green, but somehow it seems both records do not work right.
ubu
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His only session as a leader I have so far is "Live at the Village Vanguard" (enja, recorded 1968).
This has Elvin's then working trio of George Coleman (ts, as) and Wilbur Little (B), and add "Hannibal" Marvin Peterson on one long track.
I really love this record!
(and I know, by the way, that some time, sooner or later, I'm going to have the Mosaic...)
Then yes, the Art Pepper Village Vanguard box is very cool! One hell of a band!
ubu
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A note on the Commodore and Keynote K.C. sessions: I think, pryan, what you got is the definitive disc called "Kansas City (something)". This disc has the masters only of the Commodore and the Keynote sessions as well as of another session (which I cannot recall the original label).
Now I have that definitive disc, too, but I also have the Commodore Kansas City Prez disc, which has the alternates and includes another K.C. session without Prez, which is nice to have, too.
The Keynote CD might be pretty hard to find. I don't have it.
ubu
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Especially his clarinet playing is extremely intruiging.
Indeed it is! First heard his clarinet on the few tracks of the Village Vanguard box. Intriguing, to say the least.
ubu
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Now this is interesting to know, Mike! I knew the tune was not Sonny's, but somehow always thought it was a carribean tune.
ubu
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I voted him to be in my Top 5 but my Top 5 list has about 25 artists in it.
that's why I (honestly, for a change) voted top 20.
His early Blue Notes and his recent work I like very much, but listen to less, I have to admit. From the seventies and eighties I don't know much of Hill's recordings (Spiral and Eternal Spirit are the only ones I've got).
I like his compositions as well as his piano style. It's a very unique style of music he creates. However I can relate to feeling it to be a little cold or detached sometimes.
He seems to be the last in the row of the great 40ies' and 50ies' piano innovators (Monk, Bud, Herbie Nichols come to mind).
ubu
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What do you use to show Trane as a leader? Interstellar Space?
Dan, I'd suggest the Japan concerts 4CD box! 60 minutes of My Favorite Things!
B)
Seriously: either start with some Atlantic recordings (Coltrane Jazz rather than Giant Steps, maybe My Favorite Things and Plays the Blues) or start with earlier Prestige records (Settin' the Pace, Soultrane, Traneing In) or with with any Miles Davis record with Coltrane as a sideman. Another one might be Blue Train, or Sonny Clark's Sonny's Crib.
Then the Ellington/Coltrane is nice, as is Ballads (though a beginner might like it as easy mellow jazz, I think there's more to it, but that you might realize only after having listened some more hours to some other *jazz*)
ubu
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You mean Rhino didn't reprint the original liner notes? THAT sucks!
Now you're asking I'm not sure, but I think they didn't. Must check.
ubu
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David is that a picture of two Russian 14 year old would-be lesbians, the pop group Tatoo?
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Thanks, brownie! I don't think this movie will ever make (or has ever made) it to the US. Seems a very *european* (and extremely italian) picture soaked in the seventies. But I love this kind of movie!
As I have the Rhino CD, I don't have any liners, so thanks!
ubu
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One more vote for the Aladdin. This was my introduction to Prez, and it has some of his very best recordings.
Once you'll get started with Lester Young, you sure would replace the Proper box, so why not just omit it and get the real thing!
Another good one would be the Commodore disc (called Kansas City Sessions or something similar)
ubu
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thanks, Mnytime & Lon, appreciate it!
I like the sound on the RCA, too, so really no need.
And thanks for that solo Jelly Roll recommendation, Lon!
And anyone knows the ethymology of the name "Jelly Roll"? Someone I know once thought it does include some sexual allusions? Anyone knows more?
ubu
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Hey Ubu, have you ordered from this place (the one in your link) before? The only thing I can get to come up is the form to fill out to obtain a catalogue.
pryan: no, but I once ordered their catalogue and receive it ever since (yearly). Seems they're a nice bunch of enthusiasts! Their main jazz thing might be their releasing the complete Django Reinhard recordings (still in progress).
I really don't know more, sorry! But maybe brownie does? Do try and send him a PM!
ubu
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Lon (or whoever knows about this music), should I get the JSP collection when I already have the RCA 5CD set and the Commodore disc?
And how about the Library of Congress stuff?
What more besides that?
thanks!
ubu
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Okay, I'll play devil's advocate. . .get the Capitol Classic Jazz Sessions box. It's 100 dollars off this way!
Good idea, Lon! (though I have not yet come around to listen to all 12 CDs...)
Scott: I don't really know about Hamilton as a leader. I guess that the sound the band as a whole gets is Chico's. He might be too subtle to put his mark on the band (as say Art Blakey or Max Roach did), but I do like this band-"concept" of Hamilton's a lot.
ubu
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Maybe the Jazz Factory release (which started this thread) is a rip-off of the one I posted above. Don't know.
ubu
Bad News About Shirley Horn
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This is very sad news, indeed, Jim
Have not heard anything about it, so, thanks for sharing!
Though when I saw her in 2001, she already looked like a real old lady. She was brough to the stage on a wheel chair, and looked quite tired. But she played one of the most perfectly balanced (programming of songs) and performed concerts I ever saw/heard, which is why I did not have too many thought about her health.
Let's wish her all the best!
ubu