Joe G

Keep Groovin' B-) ... and have a happy one!

Excellent record and one of the best jazz guitarists I've ever seen. Let's just chalk this one up to the ambiguities of bulletin board communication. It's happened before, it'll happen again.

GOTCHA!

Allen, Allen, Allen. Your bad elf is getting the better of you again... I have played guitar for over 25 years; solidbody, hollowbody, semi-hollowbody, nylon and steel string acoustic. I've played rock, jazz, and bluegrass. I am intimately aware of the issues of tone that you have been describing, and not though discussion, but through experience and observation. For all that, I had NO IDEA what your initial post in this thread was about. It made no logical sense to me. 7/4 called it "cryptic" (he is also a guitarist, and not primarily jazz). It was not clear what you were trying to say. It took several pages to sort that out. The sooner you get accept that, the sooner we can get on with our lives!!!!! There. I feel better now.

Well, at least I'm not the one to kill this thread!

I saw dickless. Must be a blind spot, maren!

No snow today; bright blue skies and a lovely sunset just now. I went out for a walk this evening, about two miles around the nearby woods and pond. Holy crap was it cold! Beautiful, though.

No, you're not the only one. It's a form of attack, plain and simple. It's easy to forget that and get carried away, especially when we're anonymous (to one degree or another) and they're famous. Can't help but note that you put a verbal attack in the very post that called for civility towards our fellows!

I'm having trouble cutting through the digital fog...

These guys want to sing you a Happy Birthday:

That's how I read it as well...

Her former husband is a jazz musician.

I cut my musical teeth on bluegrass. And I still dig it.

Some favorites over the years: Full House was already mentioned Cannonball Adderly quintet, in San Fransisco Keith Jarrett, The Cure Kenny Werner, Form and Fantasy Michel Petruciani, Power of Three (Jim Hall is at his best on this!)

That one was beautiful....

I know it's late, but I had to point out that spelling error. Too funny! Go on with yo bad elf!

Allen - I think we agree more than disagree on this. I simply didn't understand what you were getting at initially the way you worded it. And I feel that there is some truth to the philosophy of "Music is food, the guitar is just a fork," to paraphrase Pat Martino. Again, it's a delicate balance. I remember seeing McLaughlin with Joey D. and Dennis Chambers, and being impressed with the music, but very disappointed with John's tone.

Hold on, let's back up: What I read in this post, before your explanation above, didn't make sense to me. I see what you're saying now about rock vs. jazz guitar tonalities, and the attitudes that each group brings to the process, and agree up to a point. I think Al Dimeola's rock tone has always sucked, and it can be hard to tell a Peter Bernstein from an Anthony Wilson. However, you also have to consider what the music wants. If you're playing what is primarily acoustic jazz, it would be really difficult to make an argument for having a distorted tube amp blasting away. It's a balancing act, and I haven't found a perfect solution to the various needs that my musical situations present as of yet. I think Metheny is a good example of someone who has "exploited the qualities" of the guitar (and technology in general) in service of some forward thinking music, which is why the last sentence of your post made no sense to me. BTW, I used to get an awesome metal tone back in the day, if I do say so myself. Straight into a beautiful tube amp, run cleaner than most metalheads, but crunchy. And LOUD! :rsmile:

Another one for 7/4

My sentiments exactly.

Good point!

Well, Metheny didn't claim to speak for most jazz guitarists, so do you hate the sound of Metheny's guitar?

And here we thought it was for drummers!

From the first article Tom linked: Any relation to Paul? (Although I don't know if you're actually from KC)

I humbly offer my guitaristic services.