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I have and, respectfully, I think it's a solid lyric from a technical standpoint, and the subject matter is unusual for a pop tune of its time. It's a far cry from a lyric like, say, "If I Fell" or "No Reply," in which the narrator unwittingly becomes involved in bisexual love triangles because incorrect pronouns were used. For me, a great song has to be solid from both a melodic and lyrical standpoint. So while I can enjoy the teen pop of the early Beatles for what they are, they don't qualify as great songs. Good teen pop records, maybe, but not great songs. Again, things start to shift around the time of Rubber Soul, and there were still some bumps along the way, not only for the Beatles. I got a cousin in Milwaukee She's got a voice so squawky And though she's tall and kind of gawky... Ok, I'll stop.

Like most teen pop in the rock era, the Beatles' lyrics were pretty juvenile up until Rubber Soul or so. That was standard, the usual teen angst stuff. While there were some lame tin pan alley lyrics, most of the good Broadway and Hollywood lyricists - I'm thinking people like Cole Porter, Lorenz Hart, etc. - were light years beyond what was going on in rock/pop, in terms of technique, subtleties, references, rhyme schemes, etc. Rock/pop lyrics began to get more adventurous with the influence of Dylan and psychedelic drugs. While the imagery and subject matter may have surpassed the earlier generation, most rock/pop lyrics tended to remain pretty sloppy in terms of technique. I suppose... but have you heard "My cousin In Milwaukee" by the Gershwins lately?

'was' He died some years back. He was a rock journalist, one of the best in the 70s. I read the Shostakovich back in the 80s when I was just getting interested and found it really helpful. Perhaps he was out of his depth re: the classical world but his book was a nice introduction to a new listener. There's a place for the general introduction alongside the musicological and scholarly. The Beatles book works because it is more in the area he generally worked in. Present historic tense. I looked him up on wikipedia before I laid into him. But before that I read his book. What I am saying Bev is that I don't agree with the view you express (which is a standard view in some quarters, apparently). How did it help to read something so ill-informed and badly argued? It may have felt like it helped, but that is not the same thing. And I never mentioned the classical world. I said he is ignorant of music, ignorant of critical and cultural theory, cannot read the materials on which he pronounces, and does not observe basic scholarly and intellectual standards. Did he really put all this right before tackling the Beatles, or is that too (as I suspect) just more of the same? I have only read the first two chapters of the McDonald book and I am getting bad vibes. His main point in this intro being that the Beatles wrote good music but bad lyrics, particularly when compared with the great american lyricists of Tin Pan Alley and the like. Really? Yes, some Beatle songs have sappy or stupid lyrics, but so did songs of the some of the great lyricists of the type McDonald mentions and I would put the best Beatle lyrics up against the best of theirs.

yes Allen,it was Central Park opening for Miles in '69 -I read that part too. The interview is from Monk's sister-in-law Evelyn (Skippy) - so maybe she is biased? I note that the book is filled with descriptions of awful Monk performances in the 50s and 60s, sounded like if you went to see him it was a real crapshoot

thanks Kevin,that's good instruction for the future, but my question is how do I access the files that I have already created by EAC?

More comments on a basically enjoyable book. page 333- the author says that "Thelonious made sure he played tunes from the album [Monk's Dream - Columbia] 'Criss Cross'..." except that to my knowledge Criss Cross is not on that album. page 368- the author has little good to say about the album "Live At the Jazz Workshop" and I quote "although the greater mystery is why Columbia released these recordings in the first place." - but it is on the author's list of "Selected Recordings" at the end of the book.

Sonnymax Roxio does have the "disc at once option" I have tried to use EAC to burn, when I go to "write Cd" in EAC, I cannot access my saved ripped files. Not sure why - would it have anything to do that these have been put on an external memory? any help is appreciated.

Interesting as Kelley describes how plagued Monk's studio recordings were with problems: lack of rehearsal, tough heads that accomplished musicians (Hawkins and Coltrane)had problems with. "Brilliant Corners", the tune, is cobbled together from 25 takes. One wonders how these might have sounded with more prep. I had to laugh at this line "Upon listening,it becomes clear that the band had more difficulties playing the theme correctly and in unison than improvising." Well duh!!!

Got this from the library and I am just about 100 pages into it, he's just cutting his first sides with Blue Note. It's well written, but sometimes I feel the book gives me too many details about friends, acquaintances etc. and find myself dying to get back to Monk!

Thanks everyone. I did not have a home pc until about 5 years ago and when I got it and someone helped set it up I did not know about EAC, so Roxio got put on. I later found out about EAC but did not know EAC works also for the burning part and now I will see if I can use that part.

Has this been brought up before. Some cds have no spaces between the tracks or areas where there are none. I use EAC and Roxio Easy CD Creator and I don't know where the process occurs but spaces are added where they should not be - for example on John McLaughlin's "Extrapolation" album. How do I avoid this?

No, no, no! Wrong, wrong, wrong! IMHO! Hag has one of the GREAT voices, not just in country but anywhere, anytime. And he's a FANTASTIC songwriter. As well, he's a good player who taught himself to become a pretty fair fiddler for the Bob Wills project, has great, diverse tastes and a real feel for the various traditions in American music. Hag's achievements should see him lauded in the same way Dylan is, rather than compared with other country artists. Yes, Kenny I really think you are right!! I just thought people would think I am nuts if I said it. You put it well

From the stuff you mentioned, I like Merle Haggard the best. One of the best voices in country music and a good songwriter. Before I took the plunge, I was familiar with "Okie From Muskogee" and "The Bottle Let Me Down" and probably "today I started Loving you again". I jumped in with the boxed set "Down Every Road" and then got the Capitol twofers of the first 8 or 10 releases - I'm partial to the earlier stuff.

Happy belated birthday 7/4

A belated birthday wish :party: :party:

Brad, Not fixed yet... I have been too busy and it's been way too cold (I don't have a garage) Thanks Jim and Mjzee for your input.

Vajerzy - sorry I did not mean to write in your quote - I am still getting used to the new Board. But I still have this problem after Jim's posts.

Thanks guys!! If anyone else has any suggestions or experiences to relate, I would appreciate that too.

Ok the car is 17 years old, but lately some of the car speakers buzz (distort) on the heavy bass notes. I am wondering is the speakers are blown or if they are buzzing because the speaker covers (grills) are disintegrating and the speakers are now touching some surface and rattling where before they were not. How can I tell if I need to change the grill or the whole speaker. Is it easy to change the speakers yourself?

I liked one of his cds very much. This is sad.

Columbia/Legacy C2K 65900 Disc 1 has small scratch near outer edge which has no effect on sound or playability. Disc 2 and booklet are mint. $10 shipped to a US address.

I have read both the Ray Coleman and more recent Philip Norman biographies and liked both. Norman has the benefit of some more recent info., but Coleman's book is great too. THere are some different emphasis, Norman's book caused a lot of uproar about whether Lennon may have been interested in Paul in the biblical sense - but he doesn't spend much time on it.

thanks Brad. I am surprised that the song Let It be is a result of multiple takes - I didn't hear the splice. did you get your copy of Naked yet? Any opinions. The 45 rpm and 33 1/3 rpm of Let It Be have completely different guitar solos. I am aware of that Jetman - which is why it makes it even more puzzling that if the song Let It Be on the Naked cd is a mixture of takes - why did they use what most people, if not everyone, considers to be the lesser guitar solo.

thanks Brad. I am surprised that the song Let It be is a result of multiple takes - I didn't hear the splice. did you get your copy of Naked yet? Any opinions.