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Good point! I am not offended at all. I hadn't heard much of this cd so thought I'd bring it up for comments. I'm not a big lover of jazz vocals either but dug what I heard here. There's a lot of good music out there and in my collection! I want to see what others think too. It's kind of funny selecting something that is being dumped on! LOL!

Erich Bulling.

I must be in the wrong forum then.

Who gives a crap what he's doing?

I highly recommend this one: Johnson ,J.J. – Proof Positive (Impulse)

When I heard this CD, what I was struck by was that her voice sounded shot. Very nice otherwise - Pablo was dependable for nicely produced and recorded albums. I have this CD for trade/sale on my list if anyone is looking for it. Hardly a ringing endorsement of my selection, John, but I'd prefer that you be honest rather than sugarcoat anything. You are keeping a copy for yourself, right? I should point out that this is the only Ella Fitzgerald in my collection so what sounds like a shot voice to you sounds fine to me. I haven't heard her voice in full bloom for a long time. I have heard Ella in her prime on cds but I don't own any of them any more. It's been a while.

tough guy style: Sorry Ubu, but I find the attached image in your post pretty offensive and tasteless, considering that is a real picture of real dead people: Gen. Dalla Chiesa and his wife killed by mafia. A brave, faithful and honest policeman slaughtered for having done his duty. Totally out of contest in such thread. Good point, Porcy. The picture is horrifying. Although, I must add that it does highlight what happened to this apparently good man. I wouldn't have known about this situation otherwise. Sometimes these pictures serve to generate some healthy outrage.

My favorite tune on this is Agua de Beber. Ella really belts it. Ele e Carioca starts off like it's a disco tune, but it's a terrific tune as well. Jobim had such a gift for melody, and Ella is the best!

AMG gives this only three stars, which I think is nuts. I love this cd. You can even pick up an inexpensive 20bit K-2 version.

Yeah, I basically buy this. You are right as always. Clem still =dick though.

That's because he doesn't write in English. I call it faux literature. Anyway, I've had my run-ins as well. I guess we've made our truce too, but there's a basic dishonesty in much of what he posts. I am willing to eat my words here if I am proven or persuaded to admit wrong on that point. For example, if memory serves, I believe he is in his late 30s to early 40s, but he likes to come across as someone older. He likes to conflate name dropping with erudition. No, I do not support banning him at all. We've got to have the resident know-it-all asshole, I guess. I think he's OK. I don't care about his real age. I think he's the same age as all of us - he's learning stuff here (really), which makes us all pupils, so to speak. MG Well, it's part of the dishonesty. Now again, I'll eat my words if proven wrong, but he'll often write things such as: has been on this trip since the 8-26-71 Gaelic Park gig in the Bronx (i was little too young to hit the Fillmore shows before then) which suggests that he was already old enough (say 16 or so) to appreciate such a concert. Yet he was likely 4 or 5 years old in 1971. Now again: I'll be the first to apologize to Clem if I am proven wrong on this hypothesis, but if I am correct then this serves as a typical of example of his dishonesty while posting (he might be an honest guy in real life--who knows.) I hate to go into such detail about someone, but you guys are forcing my hand. Anyway, I can coexist with Clem on the board. I hope I'm wrong about the guy--really.

Conflate with wtf? You'd get it if you've seen enough of his posts. For ex. He might call you uninformed on a particular topic then proceed to name off a list of writers and artists whom he likely never read nor heard.

That's because he doesn't write in English. I call it faux literature. Anyway, I've had my run-ins as well. I guess we've made our truce too, but there's a basic dishonesty in much of what he posts. I am willing to eat my words here if I am proven or persuaded to admit wrong on that point. For example, if memory serves, I believe he is in his late 30s to early 40s, but he likes to come across as someone older. He likes to conflate name dropping with erudition. No, I do not support banning him at all. We've got to have the resident know-it-all asshole, I guess.

Which makes the analogy more appropriate perhaps? I cannot say because I don't know these musicians being discussed.

Hmm, confusion. I thought I was up for this week w/ Ella Fitzgerald sings Jobim. I can put mine back another week.

"Modest Proposal" is a Jonathan Swift reference. Is that what you are referring to?

No question about it.

And he broadcasts his superior tastes and understanding with such incandescent and witty prose!

Actually, I think they did contribute. They brought gold, furs, skins and Indian goods back East and bought supplies in St. Louis and Kansas City(guns, ammo, wagons, cookware, etc) which they brought West with them.

The Federal Reserve can claim credit for this. They came in after the '29 crash and managed money flows. The figures would bear this out, though I am personally suspicious of their role.

Wonder how many rehearsals she had to endure in order to come out with that still-ditzy emendation.

Incredible story. I had this discussion with a chemical engineer. He seemed to always look down on the arts and I told him that Americans were uneducated. Education in America is job-directed. There's a lot of niche education, while no one studies the liberal arts if they ever hope to get a job one day. In the meantime, our kids don't know how to find America in a world map, nor do they know what "War and Peace" is. Throw all the money you want to in this system, but until Americans realize the value of the humanities in education, then we'll remain uneducated. You're right - but alot of education is geared towards getting kids into paying jobs, not necessarily the arts. Does a mid-level production manager at Exxon care if prospective welders or engineers know where Slovenia is on a map, or have read War and Peace? From the manager's standpoint, will that have any effect on the employee's production? But that's the source of the problem. Our education is geared towards specific jobs. So we bow to the God of Mammon while those jobs that we became trained for eventually go overseas or become obsolete within a decade. Then it's back to school again if we don't want to make minimum wage. If you tie your education wagon to the job market, it will leave you vulnerable and unprepared for life. The American economy is a mess as far as jobs are concerned. We no longer have lifetime employment and American corporations only want part-timers or women (because they can pay them less) or immigrants. If you are lucky enough to qualify for good jobs, then you are walking on thin ice. You will be downsized or replaced by someone cheaper. Because the arts are downplayed, we are a nation of moral midgets. We have sacrificed everything for a mythical job market.

Incredible story. I had this discussion with a chemical engineer. He seemed to always look down on the arts and I told him that Americans were uneducated. Education in America is job-directed. There's a lot of niche education, while no one studies the liberal arts if they ever hope to get a job one day. In the meantime, our kids don't know how to find America in a world map, nor do they know what "War and Peace" is. Throw all the money you want to in this system, but until Americans realize the value of the humanities in education, then we'll remain uneducated.

I wonder if she even knows what a map is. I guess there's a reason for asking questions to beauty contestants.

I've read a few of his books and they were remarkably similar. I don't remember the titles, but I second the recommendation for "Post Office."